you are good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyurethane

 

Yes, you're all right... Polyurethane is the stuff we used to cover our wooden boxes in Tech-Ed. (Hate Tech-Ed.) It's not leather.

 

Wohooo! Thanks you too.

 

Aw I'm too late again. I used to work in a polyurethane laboratory manufacturing prosthetic appliances. My boss was this pretentious arteest and I used to bother him by not referring to the various compounds and materials by their technical and important-sounding names.

"Hey boss can I have the key to the closet? We need another bucket of beige stuff."

*boss looks irritated*

"And some more play-dough."

*vein in boss' temple visibly throbs*

So yeah there were no animal products in the beige stuff. Or the red stuff. The smelly stuff was actually plant based.

 

 

 

It annoys me to no end when a customer at work goes out of their way to ensure that the bag they're buying isn't polyurathene and is in fact real leather. They can't settle for plastic, they're so classy they need the hide of a dead animal around their arm.

Geez, it's not like they're being cheated more than the cow.

 

Haha, for vegetarians it's te opposite. We WANT it to be fake.

 

That would be creepy if it was leather... they make condoms out of polyurethane.

 

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Originally Posted by danakscully64

That would be creepy if it was leather... they make condoms out of polyurethane.

 

Well, I tend not to read off the condoms' ingredientslists.

Imagine that. Condoms made out of leather

 

I only know because I've taken a billion health classes over the years. Plus, these were the kind I was trying to get my sister to buy because she was 'allergic to all other forms of birth control.' And she claimed these were 'too expensive,' yet were the same price as the latex. And a baby is cheaper? Yeah, she just had her 3rd child in April.

What's gross... did you know they make condoms out of lamb intestines? *gag*

 

lamb intestine was the original condom, I believe (ok, I looked that up in the 80s, sue me)

 

Yep, but I don't understand why it's still used today. I'm sorry, but even if I was an omni, the idea of using one is a turn-off. Ewwwww. *cringe* Here's a little tidbit about them:

"However, conventional wisdom holds that there is an increased risk of transmitting STDs compared to latex because of pores in the material, which are thought to be large enough to allow infectious agents to pass through, albeit blocking the passage of sperm. Lambskin condoms are frequently called ineffective with regards to preventing sexually transmitted diseases."

-Wikipedia

It goes into more detail about how it's not really ineffective, it's just not AS effective.

Yuck Yuck Yuck

 

Actually, PU can have leather in it, but it doesn't always. Here's a quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PU_leather .

"Bicast leather (also known as bycast leather or PU leather, sometimes described as split leather) is a material made with a split leather backing covered with a layer of polyurethane (hence the term PU leather) that is applied to the surface and then embossed. Because it is only used for the backing, the leather portion of this material is generally not visible in finished goods made from Bicast. Bicast was originally made for the apparel industry for glossy shoes, and recently was adopted by the furniture industry. The resulting product has an artificially consistent texture that is easier to clean and maintain, as is the case with most plastic materials."

Here's more info from here: http://www.ebay.com/gds/PU-LEATHER-COMPARED-TO-GENUINE-LEATHER-/10000000008377991/g.html .

"PU (Poly) Synthetic Leather is a man made material that will represent the look and feel of Genuine Leather but in fact is NOT. This PU material is far less durable, considerably cheaper in cost, and may not last long if used often. This material is extremely pliable and will stretch kind of like a spandex material. It has a more shiny appearance and generally is far less thick than real leather. Grooves similar to your fingerprints are mechanically pressed into the material to give it that REAL look. These grooves are far less defined and are hairlike impressions. This material for the most part is Waterproof and easily cleaned or maintained. For persons on a tight budget this material is the way to go. It's about half the cost of real leather products and will still look awesome in your collection. If your Strict on your Leather policy, this IS NOT the way to go."

That last part I bolded is what keeps me avoiding PU. Idk, I know it's a small chance that there is any leather, but I'm still weary.

 

everyonce so i found this canvas coated with resin is resin vegan when i searched it on google it says (Resin in the most specific use of the term is a hydrocarbon secretion of many plants, particularly coniferous trees)

Do you guys know is it is vegan or not?

 

cheaper, durable, confortable... just the right option

 

The main issue with PU Leather is that this term is used to describe two different things. This can become somewhat confusing if you are new to veganism in general. PU Leather can refer to Polyurethane leather, which is 100% synthetic and is vegan in nature. However, it can also refer to leather that is fortified with a polyurethane backing.

It also doesn’t end there. Many companies importing these goods from places like China, where they are made far cheaper. This can cause the animal leather to not even be made from cows, but rabbit, cat, dog, or even rat hide. This can cause more animals suffering the long run if you buy the wrong product.

PU itself is a polymer that can be manipulated and made to order. This makes it cheap and affordable, but can suffer from being brittle. So if you want something a little more durable, finding another form of vegan leather might do you some good.

 

PU itself is a polymer that can be manipulated and made to order. This makes it cheap and affordable, but can suffer from being brittle. So if you want something a little more durable, finding another form of vegan leather might do you some good.

Right. I worry that the fact that plastics are "vegan" is causing many vegans to buy them as if they weren't harmful to animals. Vegans should remember that plastics do not biodegrade. Once plastic is made, it will be around for hundreds or thousands of years (no one really knows for sure). Eventually, it will fall apart into small pieces, which animals will ingest. Vegans, in my opinion, should avoid plastic as much as wool and leather, at least until scientists figure out a way to make plastics that are truly biodegradable, and biodegradable in a way that doesn't produce huge amounts of greenhouse gases:
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2009/04/do-biodegradable-plastics-really-work/

 

I'm really confused that comments about plastics and veganism, leather and veganism are in the vegetarian support forum?

Can I ask the mods to sort this out.

leedsveg :huh:

 

I moved it to the Environmental Issues forum.