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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Alli</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Points out the hypocrisy of PETA. Anyone have any views on this?</div>
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With a url like that, it just <i>has</i> to be an unbiased look at PeTA, doesn't it?
 

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Haha. Very true. I don't think they're as evil as the site is making them out to be, although some of the stuff is interesting. PETA does do a lot of good, in my opinion.
 

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Alli - there are about a thousand threads on VB about PETA.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=50847" target="_blank">This</a> is the most recent one.
 

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<div class="quote-block">\t \t"PETA Kills Animals" is a project of the <a href="http://www.consumerfreedom.com/" target="_blank">Center for Consumer Freedom</a> \t(CCF)</div>
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What's my view? They're a bunch of losers.
 

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Nothing but a lobbying group funded by the likes of Tyson Chicken, Steak & Ale, Philip Morris, etc. complaining that somebody else "kills animals."<br><br><br><br>
That's so much irony you could choke on it.<br><br><br><br>
Search this site and you'll find zillions of threads on CCF and what their motives are.
 

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From their <a href="http://www.consumerfreedom.com/about.cfm" target="_blank">website</a>.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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The Center for Consumer Freedom is a nonprofit coalition of restaurants, food companies, and consumers working together to promote personal responsibility and protect consumer choices.<br></div>
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Just what I thought. No axe to grind whatsoever.<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:">
 

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<div class="quote-block">The Center for Consumer Freedom is a nonprofit coalition of restaurants, food companies, and consumers working together to promote personal responsibility and protect consumer choices.</div>
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Protect consumer choices from what? Changing? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:">
 

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Never looked at it. I always thought PeTA's animal-killing stats were open to the public anyway (though I forget where).
 

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I believe it was a joke. An amusing way of saying that Richard Berman, the Executive Director of the CCF, hasn't got an ethical fiber in his being.
 

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How come nobody wants to address the OP, i.e. is it true?</div>
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Alli just asked if we had views not if it's true.<br><br><br><br>
I have no way of telling if it's true, but when you consider those who are behind the site, I would take everything I read there with a grain of salt approximately the size of Colarado.<br><br><br><br>
Richard Berman, as I have said, is the ED of the CCF. He cares about consumer choices in the same way that a personal injury lawyer who advertises on TV cares about his client's injury.
 

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the other shelter where Animal Aide rescues animals from only adopts out about 4 animals a year, at least Peta's doing more than that. there just isn't any room or people to adopt animals nowadays. not all shelters can be no kill. it would be nice but it's just not possible. the shelter I work at is no kill but the cats live their lives in tiny cages and the shelter owners can hardly pay the bills each month. until people can learn to keep animal populations down by spaying/neutering many animals are going to be euthanized. that's my opinion anyway.
 

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I have no way of telling if it's true...</div>
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You seem competent enough. I'd bet you do.
 

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The case of the mistaken employees (Hinkle and some else was it) is well-known, as is the fact that PETA euthanizes a lot of animals who are not terminally ill etc. This has garnered a lot of criticism of PETA from inside the AR community - from those who actually give a **** about the situation, unlike Berman & co.<br><br><br><br>
CCF pointing it out, even as a matter of internal consistency, shows no decency as usual, since they don't have any qualms with the pet industry causing this problem in the first place. Basically, society - because of the attitudes that CCF, Penn & Teller and others represent - dumps a giant problem at the animal organizations' feet and then has the audacity to complain how PETA tries to solve it.
 
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