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...if they also served a spectacular vegetarian menu that could be veganized on request?<br><br><br><br>
That's the question I'll be facing next week in Seattle. I kind of want to try <a href="http://www.rovers-seattle.com/" target="_blank">Rover's</a>, a very nice restaurant that serves an $80 vegetarian dinner, but the rest of their menu, including the dinner they would most likely be serving to Mr. Tess, is heavy on the foie gras. You cannot get anything remotely like their vegetarian dinner in Houston AFAIK, and I doubt you could get it anywhere in Texas, so this would be a one-time dining opportunity for me. Would you go, assuming the cost wasn't an issue?
 

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That is a toughy, I'm from Ohio, so I know when you are a meat producing state how tough it can be. Me personally, I don't think I could. I despise the idea of Foie Gras. But as it is a one time thing, and you aren't eating the diseased liver, I say go for it, enjoy it, and take it for what it is, not what it isn't. Good luck on your decision. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Well, considering I don't eat where animals are served as food, I certainly wouldn't eat at a place that specializes in serving parts of severely tortured creatures.<br><br><br><br>
I say do what feels like the right choice in your heart.<br><br><br><br>
Would you eat vegan if you went? I am curious as to what they would serve as alternative to the lacto-ovo options.
 

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If I didn't eat anywhere animal flesh is served, I would have a total of, I think, two restaurants in all of Houston. Both Chinese. There is a third that is almost entirely vegetarian and serves many vegan dishes, but they serve two fish dishes.<br><br><br><br>
I've been debating whether I would ask them to veganize it or eat L/O. I just finished telling Mr. Tess it doesn't make any sense for me to say I want to be as vegan as I consider feasible, then go to a restaurant that makes a point of saying on their website that they will veganize on request, and not ask them to veganize. So I think if we do make reservations, I will ask them to veganize. I may ask them to omit any foie gras from Mr. Tess's dinner as well. I'm uncomfortable with someone sitting across the table from me eating it... and he's never had it before. What if he loves it and wants to have it again?? That would be the worst! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/shocked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":eek:"><br><br><br><br>
We also made reservations for the Spirit of Washington Dinner Train, and they have both a L/O entree and a vegan entree. You will be so proud of me, Ahimsa... I pre-ordered the vegan entree even though it's a grilled portobello mushroom, a food I haven't entirely learned to love yet! There seem to be many more opportunities to easily eat vegan in Seattle than in Houston. Like that's a big surprise to anyone. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:"><br><br><br><br>
PS: Oh, and their website is not specific as to how they will veganize. Their sample vegetarian menu doesn't seem to have much dairy in it or any eggs that I could identify, so it may be a matter of simply omitting a little cheese.
 

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If I didn't eat anywhere animal flesh is served, I would have a total of, I think, two restaurants in all of Houston.</div>
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Well, we're in the same boat then because there are 2 places I will eat where I live as well <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> I sure wish there were more options for veg*ns.
 

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I would personally go for it Tess, and I like the idea of both veganising your food and asking Mr. Tess to forgo the fois gras.<br><br><br><br>
Personally, I don't mind eating in a restaurant that serves both meat and veggie options. I like to encourage them by ordering the veggie things. I think it shows them there is a demand for it. Also, it allows me to eat with people who would not really find anything they would like at a vegetarian restaurant (although if I have the choice, I pick the veggie places, or at the very least, ethnic places with a TON of vegan options- like a mediteranean place).<br><br><br><br>
I also love going to a place with an omni, and while there food is just so so, my veggie choice is absolutly delicious. I think guilt free food tastes better!
 

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I prefer to eat in veggie options, and I'd never eat at a place that serves foie gras - but I think I have more than 40 options in my city!! The freedom of choice makes things so easy. Does Mr Tess know about what goes on in the process of foie gras? I know a lot of meat-eaters who are opposed to it (but not opposed to a tortured broiler chick!)..
 

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You're going to Seattle - I think there are a fair number of options in that city. It's a bit of a red herring to talk about the few veg options in Texas, and how this is some kind of a once in a lifetime opportunity, because you'll be in Seattle where there are likely other great places to go. Why don't you pose the question to people from Washington where else you might go?
 

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No, if I knew they were serving foie gras I wouldn't go. I also want to avoid stores that sell it. Yes, all selling of meat is bad but you have to start from something.
 

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It looks to be the kind of place I wouldn't want to dine at, but that's more the culture of the place than the food. In terms of food, it looks good.<br><br><br><br>
The verdict: Loki says "Go there and enjoy your meal"
 

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If I never ate anywhere meat was served, I'd never leave home (and even then sometimes lol). There's no vegetarian restaurants around here. Even the ethnic ones sell meat as an option.<br><br>
I say go. If I could find a restaurant that even HAD a vegetarian option I would go there in a second. Most places around me, vegetarian=salad. Enjoy.<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:"><br><br>
Go, go, go and veganize, veganize, veganize.<br><br>
If you have them omit the fois gras from Mr.Tess' dish, at least tell him though. lol<br><br>
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Yes, I would probably eat in a restaurant that served foie gras, if the rest of my dinner party was going there. I wouldn't choose to go there on my own though. But there's also no way would I pay $80 for a meal, even if money wasn't an issue.
 

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No, if I knew they were serving foie gras I wouldn't go. I also want to avoid stores that sell it. Yes, all selling of meat is bad but you have to start from something.</div>
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I agree that you have to start somewhere.<br><br><br><br>
I couldn't bring myself to go, but that's just me, Tess. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sick.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":sick:">
 

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You're going to Seattle - I think there are a fair number of options in that city. It's a bit of a red herring to talk about the few veg options in Texas, and how this is some kind of a once in a lifetime opportunity, because you'll be in Seattle where there are likely other great places to go. Why don't you pose the question to people from Washington where else you might go?</div>
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Oh, I have. I've also consulted my trusty guidebook, which has a section on vegetarian dining. There are many great places to eat in Seattle, and I plan to hit as many of them as possible, but I don't think you can get a dinner like this anyplace else in Seattle, either. Rover's seems to be considered Seattle's ultimate dining experience.<br><br><br><br>
Another fine dining alternative would be <a href="http://www.cascadiarestaurant.com/html/" target="_blank">Cascadia</a>. They serve veal, but their menu isn't covered with foie gras the way Rover's is, and they have a very nice vegetarian tasting menu. If I were determined to avoid restaurants that served veal, I would simply never to be able to attend a family dinner ever again, because every restaurant above the Chili's level around here serves veal. Texas hasn't gotten the message that it's politically incorrect, or is stoically ignoring it. I would also love to eat at the <a href="http://www.theherbfarm.com/Index2.tmpl?X=Y&Session=[Session]&Cart=115228436468946&WidthX=800&Src=[Src]" target="_blank">Herbfarm</a>, but I don't think I can swing that! And they may well have the same issues.<br><br><br><br>
I do plan to eat at <a href="http://www.cafeflora.com/" target="_blank">Cafe Flora</a>, which is all vegetarian. There's also <a href="http://www.carmelita.net/" target="_blank">Carmelita</a>. Then there's Hillside Quickies, Bamboo Garden, Sunlight Cafe, and Silence-Heart-Nest. And I just have to hit Red Mill Burgers (not veggie) for what's reputedly the best veggie burger in town.<br><br><br><br>
Come to think of it, maybe you're right, Irizary. Between all these other great places to eat, I don't need to eat at Rover's. (PS: Of course, it was never a question of <span style="text-decoration:underline;">need</span>... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thinking.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":think:"> )
 

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I'd go for sure. The more that veg*ns go to restaurants and request specific things not normally on the menus, the more likely these restaurants will cater to us by putting veg*n dishes on the menu, and the more that Omnis will try veg*n meals and realize life without meat is no biggie (Let's face it - how many of our Omni friends will walk into a veg*n restaurant on their own?).<br><br><br><br>
I think it's really cool that some of you have 2 restaurants in town to patronize that don't serve any flesh. I live in Portland, Maine, where there are tons of nice restaurants, and I can't think of one that doesn't! On the other hand, I can't think of many that don't have vegan options, either, except for the smaller pizza joints.
 

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Ther other issue is that Rover's is known for their willingness to veganize, and serve you a truly fabulous 5-course dinner that's totally vegan. How many places do that?? Even Cascadia doesn't come right out and say on their website that they're happy to veganize, and their vegetarian menu looks more dairy than Rover's.<br><br><br><br>
PS: Gogoshire, I was thinking of people just like you as I wrote that post about "only" 2 vegetarian restaurants. It's nice that some people have the luxury of having vegetarian restaurants, but I imagine for the majority of vegetarians, that would mean literally never eating out again.
 

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It's nice that some people have the luxury of having vegetarian restaurants, but I imagine for the majority of vegetarians, that would mean literally never eating out again.</div>
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Yup, exactly.<br><br>
It's nice, sometimes, to go out someplace and not have to cook, clean up and wash the dishes, even if all I can get to eat is spaghetti. If I decided I would never step foot in anyplace that serves meat I wouldn't be able to even go to my family get togethers. I don't think I could or would spend the rest of my life never eating out, picking up a quick snack somewhere or going to a family get together. Maybe it's just me but doing that isn't going to change anything anyway.<br><br>
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If I didn't go to or support any place they had meat, I'd be screwed! There's not a single vegetarian/vegan restaurant around here. I have no idea where I'd get groceries, as even the health food stores around here have organic meat.<br><br><br><br>
I've got mixed feelings on this kind of thing. It's kind of the same with products that aren't tested on animals, but their parent companies have products that are. It's hard. Half of me says to buy the stuff that's not tested on animals, and to buy the vegetarian options from companies that have nonvegetarian things to show them that the demand is out there. The other half says not to give them any money. I don't really know where to draw the line. I mean, even my grocery store is profiting off of selling meat, and I'm giving them my money everytime I buy veggies and fruit.
 
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