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So scary. How did no one notice this chick walking around in scrubs?<br><br><br><br>
Ugh.
 

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Too bad they can't tag newborns with an alarm the same way they do electronics in stores.<br><br><br><br>
I does seem odd that no one would pay attention to her having the hood pulled up and, I'm assuming, not wearing a badge.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Wolfie</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I does seem odd that no one would pay attention to her having the hood pulled up and, I'm assuming, not wearing a badge.</div>
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Not necessarily. Many hospitals are in the midst of a staffing crisis, so agency nurses and nurse aides are regularly employed. Even the regular workers may not recognize the faces of every person working on a given day. Not to mention regular workers might not know all the people who work in different wings.<br><br><br><br>
Plus, some people wear their hoods up when they're coming in or going out on a cold day. The story doesn't say if she only wore the hood in the lobby or also when she went to the baby's room. I would think a hood would set off alarm bells for the mother.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>the story</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
The newborn was wearing a monitoring device but it was not clear if the device included a global positioning system beacon.</div>
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OK, what was the monitoring device for if not to let people know where she is? I'm assuming this is an ankle or wrist bracelet, but it's not specific enough.
 

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But she should have had a badge on, whether they recognized her or not. At my hospital, we're told to call security on anyone in a non-public area who's not wearing a badge. She never should have been able to walk into the newborn nursery w/o a badge. Unless maybe she had a fake one.<br><br><br><br>
I hope they get the baby back soon.<br><br><br><br>
I just read it again. It sounds like the woman may have taken her from the mother's room by saying the baby needed treatment. I guess that wouldn't be as obvious as taking her from the nursery.
 

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Both the hospital I worked at and at the hospital I gave birth to both my kids had locked maternity doors, you need your pass to get in........the babies have electronic alarm bands on.......the one i worked at was a big city hospital, the one i gave birth in was a small local hospital........alarms should have been sounding off when that baby was taken thru the maternity wing doors.<br><br>
and it is true, id badges are to be worn at all times, at least where i worked, and also where i had my kids all the nurses and aides always had a badge on id'ing themselves.
 

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when my daughter was born they put a monitor badge on her umbilical cord clamp. it wasn't removed until we were about to check out. also, nurses who from the maternity ward had to have a pink badge - this made it immediately clear if they were supposed to be around the babies. its so sad that this hospital didn't have something like this or if it did, the person was still able to get around it. I hope they find the kidnapper.
 

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Baby was found (safe) early this morning, and a suspect has been apprehended. (see link above for updated story).<br><br><br><br>
Yay!
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:"> so glad there is a happy ending!
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Bonoluvr</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Both the hospital I worked at and at the hospital I gave birth to both my kids had locked maternity doors, you need your pass to get in........the babies have electronic alarm bands on.......the one i worked at was a big city hospital, the one i gave birth in was a small local hospital........alarms should have been sounding off when that baby was taken thru the maternity wing doors.<br><br>
and it is true, id badges are to be worn at all times, at least where i worked, and also where i had my kids all the nurses and aides always had a badge on id'ing themselves.</div>
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They should definitely have this for maternity but also pediatrics. those sound like good practices.<br><br><br><br>
I have old ID tags for a couple of different hospitals from when I was a student. One has an expiration date, the other doesn't. I also have a current hospital ID tag just for my affiliation even though I am not technically a hospital worker. I could probably fool someone with these if they didn't read what they said. But in general, I have been able to walk all over in hospitals with no questions asked even without my ID, but I do know that certain wards require a swipe card to get in and outsiders must id themselves, etc. I've never been in peds or maternity, so I don't know if any of those places have that, but I bet they do. The hospitals where I live are all teaching ones that do research, so there are all kinds of non-medical staff, students, etc. who people wouldn't recognize there. In fact, I know that there is a problem in one I am affiliated with with people off the streets wandering into research and administrative areas and snatching belongings out of people's desks.<br><br><br><br>
ETA- this might have been a product of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect" target="_blank">bystander effect</a>. Where everyone else assumes that there's not a problem or else someone else would be doing something to intervene.
 

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WRT security procedues, this was at the end of the link Jen gave.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Newborns at Covenant are tagged with a security bracelet, said Stafford, who did not give details on how the bracelet worked.<br><br><br><br>
As soon as the baby and this security piece were separated we were alarmed and knew, Stafford said. Thats what enabled us to be able to get the visual of the pickup.<br><br><br><br>
Clearly we need to take security to a higher standard, she said. Were not going to rest until we take it up a notch, another level. I dont know that we can ever have anything perfect.<br><br><br><br>
Susanne Moore, a former Covenant nurse who had a baby Friday at the same hospital, told the Lubbock Avalanche-Journal that the hospital placed an electronic band on her newborn girls ankle. She said she was told that if the baby were taken too close to a door or elevator, a sensor would cause the door to lock or the elevator to shut down.<br><br><br><br>
Moore said she also was told that if the band were cut off before it was deactivated, the hospital would be locked down.</div>
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<b>She said she was told that if the baby were taken too close to a door or elevator, a sensor would cause the door to lock or the elevator to shut down.</b><br><br><br><br>
apparently this did not work in this case.......also when alarms are going off where is the security staff? there are lots of questions in this case.......why didn't a door lock, example the door leading OUT of the maternity ward should have locked down........the elevator, the door out, the sound of an alarm going off, where is everyone? other staff, the maternity staff, the security staff??<br><br>
the bracelet must have been defective,<br><br>
i bet lots of women giving birth now will be asking for id of anyone claiming to have to take the baby to the nursery for an exam!
 
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