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I have NEVER liked cows milk and never grew up drinking milk of any kind. And now that I'm vegetarian (trying to go vegan) I decided to stock up on soy milk since I actually like the taste of it and could drink it several times a day. And then I go on youtube and find this...<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uIn2L90wA8&feature=related" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uIn2...eature=related</a><br><br>
there are a few other videos like that, but this one seems credible since the guy's a doctor.<br><br>
What do you guys think? Do you drink soy milk a few times a day like I have started doing or do you drink other milks like rice/oat milks. I've never tried those..maybe it's time to explore my options <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:"> I really like soy milk <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br>
Fermented soy is apparently good for you so tempeh is ok to eat regularly, but not unfermented soy like tofu<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> and soy burgers, protein bars/shakes.<br><br>
I think I might just die if I have to give up my soy burgers.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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The Weston A. Price Foundation has some sort of grudge against soy, though granted, they are an organization that believes in the health wisdom of a late 19th century dentist. Mercola over there is in its advisory board. Of all the anti-soy professionals I've ever heard of, I have yet to find a single one without a connection to the dental cult.<br><br>
ETA: To answer your other question, I go back and forth between almond and soy milk, but I think almond milk tastes better.
 

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Anything to debase veg*ns will be used as ammunition by omnis.<br>
The truth is that these "experts" debasing soy as a whole are overshadowed by the studies that disprove their results.<br>
Another thing-soy goes from the whole edaname to the overly processed soy isolates. They're very different foods. Soy isolates are very common in many foods omnis eat, while they may shun soy in it's more natural state. That's good to keep in mind when hearing these arguments from the point of view of omnis.<br><br>
I usually one cup of soymilk a day, and have tofu more than tempeh- maybe twice a week. I also love edamame-maybe once a week if that.<br>
So many Asian cultures are raised on soy, it's a silly argument.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>silva</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3025820"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I usually one cup of soymilk a day, and have tofu more than tempeh- maybe twice a week. I also love edamame-maybe once a week if that.<br>
So many Asian cultures are raised on soy, it's a silly argument.</div>
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That makes sense. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Thanks guys. I'm gg to keep drinking soy milk...maybe reduce it to one cup a day. Moderation is key to everything we eat (at least that's what my grandma says).
 

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Jack Norris took a look at all the data and concluded that moderate amounts of soy is safe for most people.<br>
here's the link, check it out: <a href="http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/soy_harm" target="_blank">http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/soy_harm</a><br><br>
I am not worried about it. I grew up vegetarian and ate tofu and soy often. I'm more worried about my former dairy intake than about my former or current soy intake.
 

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The trend of bad talking soy is largely a follow up of the trend of saying soy is a magic food that makes you healthy and cures all of life's ailments, which peaked around 15 or so years ago if I remember correctly.<br><br>
Now the so called experts debate about it just as much as the non-experts do, they just use words with more syllables when doing it.<br><br>
So let me explain it as someone in the middle of the debate. A soy bean is just that, a freaking bean. It contains fats, proteins, carbohydrates, and a bunch of micronutrients just like any other bean does. It is neither a toxin that causes brain cancer nor a miracle food that cures it. It's just food.
 

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Bryanna Clark Grogan has a good collection of links on the soy scare: <a href="http://www.bryannaclarkgrogan.com/page/page/3476771.htm" target="_blank">http://www.bryannaclarkgrogan.com/page/page/3476771.htm</a>
 

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I consume lots of soy daily in the form of soymilk and tofu and whatnot, but even I'm not really sure that my intake is all that healthy. Westernized soy production is quick and dirty and quite different from the traditional fermented soy products. Also, the amount of soy consumed historically by Asian peoples is often greatly exaggerated. I don't remember where I read it, but typically it amounted to only about two tablespoons of tofu a day. Used only for flavoring. Not the multiple glasses of soy milk we westerners consume and certainly not the processed soy products that we too often rely upon. Everything in moderation.
 

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I consume lots of soy daily in the form of soymilk and tofu and whatnot, but even I'm not really sure that my intake is all that healthy. Westernized soy production is quick and dirty and quite different from the traditional fermented soy products. Also, the amount of soy consumed historically by Asian peoples is often greatly exaggerated. I don't remember where I read it, but typically it amounted to only about two tablespoons of tofu a day. Used only for flavoring. Not the multiple glasses of soy milk we westerners consume and certainly not the processed soy products that we too often rely upon. Everything in moderation.</div>
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Yeah; this is me. I eat up to three pounds of tofu a week, easily. Most westerners tend to use tofu as a meat substitute, and soy milk as a milk substitute. Compared to cultures that eat relatively small amounts of meat and no milk at all, it's way out of balance in more ways than one.<br><br>
nomad888 make a very clear and good point, but the truth of the matter is that most foods have some sort of toxins in them, and beans are certainly no exception. Too much of almost anything is likely to be bad for you.
 

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I drink soy milk and now I have boobs! It made me grow boobs!<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Oh wait a second, I'm a woman. Never mind. *Takes sip of soy caramel machiatto*
 

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Keep drinking that soy milk and good luck with that <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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You want to see Diggers moobs? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wideeyed.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":boobies:">
 

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You want to see Diggers moobs? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wideeyed.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":boobies:"></div>
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They're quite fantastic... i'm a bit offended that you are selling them short.
 

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They're quite fantastic... i'm a bit offended that you are selling them short.</div>
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I'm not selling them shorter. Digger, can I see your FANTASTIC moobs too?
 

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The trend of bad talking soy is largely a follow up of the trend of saying soy is a magic food that makes you healthy and cures all of life's ailments, which peaked around 15 or so years ago if I remember correctly.<br><br>
Now the so called experts debate about it just as much as the non-experts do, they just use words with more syllables when doing it.<br><br>
So let me explain it as someone in the middle of the debate. A soy bean is just that, a freaking bean. It contains fats, proteins, carbohydrates, and a bunch of micronutrients just like any other bean does. It is neither a toxin that causes brain cancer nor a miracle food that cures it. It's just food.</div>
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Yep, glad to see this response here <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:">
 

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I think it is nice to have a variety of milks anyway. I had no almond or soy for a smoothie this morning, I ended up using coconut milk diluted by water, and that served its purpose very well. I just put some in a glass of water until it resembled the consistency of other milks. I also added some oats and banana and fresh berries, it is so creamy.... v nice.<br><br>
Prob not good to have a really coconut-heavy smoothie though, it is rich stuff! That is why it is good to dilute it.
 

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We have a fairly severe soy allergy here at home, so I don't use it, but with all foods, everything in moderation. There is no such thing as a perfect food. Everything you eat (unless all you eat is, say, Oreo cookies, or Ritz crackers, for example) is good, and has its own benefits. I can't vouch for soy milk, I'm using rice milk right now, but whatever you think is best (or is on sale :p) is what's good.
 

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The studies on soy have all produced conflicting results and so the issue about soy is inconclusive really. But I tend to believe that there could be some issues for women with the phytoestrogens found in soy, and consuming a lot of soy in the absence of Iodine has been shown to lead to thyroid problems. I don't avoid soy altogether because I like it, but if I have a choice between drinking a glass of soy and a glass of rice or oat milk, I will often take the non-soy option just to keep my consumption down a bit.
 
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