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<a href="http://www.bestofgooglevideo.com/video.php?video=451" target="_blank">http://www.bestofgooglevideo.com/video.php?video=451</a><br><br><br><br>
Short trailer for a new indie. documentary coming out in regards to big oil. Looks good.
 

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Electric cars are fairly common in London now. I see these quite often, at least a few every day: <a href="http://www.goingreen.co.uk/index.html?PageID=G-WizDepth" target="_blank">http://www.goingreen.co.uk/index.html?PageID=G-WizDepth</a>
 

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I want a car powered by hydrogen and oxygen from (cracking?) water. Better yet, a bike using said power.
 

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In the long run, the personal automobile, is not sustainable, regardless of how it is powered. It's not just the energy source that powers the car, but all the energy intensive steel used in the car and the road infrastructure that makes this unsustainable.<br><br><br><br>
We should all start supporting all types of Mass Transit, because it's our only hope. When the light rail comes to my area, which is scheduled for 2-3 years, I plan on using it in conjunction with a Folding Bicycle for connections.
 

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Electric cars are fairly common in London now. I see these quite often, at least a few every day: <a href="http://www.goingreen.co.uk/index.html?PageID=G-WizDepth" target="_blank">http://www.goingreen.co.uk/index.html?PageID=G-WizDepth</a></div>
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omg.. i want... a... zebra... car....<br><br><br><br>
no fair.<br><br><br><br>
And back to topic, my manager just told me about this film the other day. How strange. I would like to see it as well.
 
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re: public transport: they've got an interesting system running in amsterdam with the combination of the super efficient trams, and the white bikes -you just take one off the rack, ride it, and park it in another rack when you got where you were going- though the white bikes seemed a little shady in terms of maintenance, from what i remember. its a good idea in principle, anyway. i think any public transport/transit system needs to be really user friendly, to replace peoples desire to drive, as the idea of putting yourself out for something thats not reliable, cheap, efficient, and easy to use, puts me, and i am sure many other people, off.
 

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I find that fascinating, the idea of city owned borrow bikes. I'd like to know more about how that works, and how they are not stolen.<br><br><br><br>
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I do not understand why electric motorcycles are not more popular. I would say that 80% of my driving is less than 30 mile trips. Perfect for an electric motorcycle.
 

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Wow the new Tesla Roadster electric car coming out soon will go from 0 to 60 MPH in 3.4 seconds! And it looks damn cool, too. Check it out: <a href="http://www.wired.com/news/wiredmag/0,71414-0.html?tw=rss.index" target="_blank">http://www.wired.com/news/wiredmag/0...l?tw=rss.index</a>
 
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yeah, theft is one of the main problems with the system, which was started in the 1960's by an environmentalist. a lot of the bikes were stolen, and not really looked after by those who used them- so the scheme sadly got cancelled. When i was in amsterdam in 1998, there were still plenty of the origional white bikes around, and people using them, however. I recall hearing that they didn't have any brakes, and that to brake you had to pedal backwards! Even without support, from what i saw, it did seem like some people could make the system continue to work for them, and use the bikes honestly- repairing their own punctures, etc.<br><br><br><br>
Aparently the system was relaunched in 1998 with these new posh bikes with microchips and electronic locks, which worked on a scheme that you had to register to use, and you had to use a smartcard to sign bikes in and out, with penalties (you risked not being able to borrow one again) if the bike was returned late or damaged. I'm not sure if this system is still running either, sadly, i can't find a site that tells me that it is.<br><br><br><br>
it seems from what i've found online that similar systems were tried in other cities and countries too, with mixed results. if we could make it really work, it seems like a really good idea- if it was done in the right environment, with the right tools, and popular support.<br><br><br><br>
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<div class="quote-block">Amsterdam is known as one of the most bicycle-friendly cities in the world and is a center of bicycle culture. Most main streets have bike paths. Bike racks are ubiquitous throughout the city. There are about 700,000 bicycles in the city. Each year, about 80,000 of them are stolen and 25,000 end up in the canals. In the city centre, driving a car is discouraged, parking fees are steep and a great number of streets are closed off for cars.</div>
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looking at the city itself, with lots of narrow winding streets, intermingled with trams, and canals aplenty, its seems way more sensible logistically to ride a bike there, than attempt to drive around. though it is apparent that the whole problem of bike theft is still very much in existance- i guess people have got some learning and growing to do before we can build and live in a society without crime.
 

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We were very close two years ago to releasing our plug in your home in a 110 outlet electric car. Problem was in marketing groups it got killed, folks were not willing to give up other luxuries like big tvs and oversized homes to buy them. they would have been 40k-50k, had a range of 250 miles on a charge, preformed as well as any gas car. But llithium bateries are not cheap. You can now buy basicly the same technology buy buying a Pt cruiser and sending it to http: //www. <a href="http://hybridtechnology.com/products.php?sec=1&id=3" target="_blank">hybridtechnology.com/products.php?sec=1&id=3</a><br><br>
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you want it you must pay for it. Personally I would rather drive alot of things over a 40k pt crusier.
 

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We were very close two years ago to releasing our plug in your home in a 110 outlet electric car. Problem was in marketing groups it got killed, folks were not willing to give up other luxuries like big tvs and oversized homes to buy them. they would have been 40k-50k, had a range of 250 miles on a charge, preformed as well as any gas car. But llithium bateries are not cheap. You can now buy basicly the same technology buy buying a Pt cruiser and sending it to http: //www. <a href="http://hybridtechnology.com/products.php?sec=1&id=3" target="_blank">hybridtechnology.com/products.php?sec=1&id=3</a><br><br>
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you want it you must pay for it. Personally I would rather drive alot of things over a 40k pt crusier.</div>
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are you talking about the Ford Think or something else? I'm convinced that the hybrid popularity caught companies off guard, they underestimated all the good PR potential as well as the fact it gets a new demographic into the dealerships and half the time you end up selling them something more conventional. Companies used to do some bold stuff like gas turbine engine cars just to let the public know they're cutting edge.<br><br><br><br>
did you just get an XD or something? I'm kind of interested in their new .45, we'll have to get some gun pics up in the photo album.
 

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Tesla Roadster is sexy sexy sexy.<br><br><br><br>
Although I wish hydrogen cars would make an appearance soon.
 

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Whoa check it out: Vid of the Tesla Roadster in action. Damn its fast, and so quiet!<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt1AdfgcNiQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt1AdfgcNiQ</a><br><br><br><br>
Gotta wait until 2007 to buy one. I better start saving now!
 

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Whoa check it out: Vid of the Tesla Roadster in action. Damn its fast, and so quiet!<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt1AdfgcNiQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt1AdfgcNiQ</a><br><br><br><br>
Gotta wait until 2007 to buy one. I better start saving now!</div>
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Whoa, that's one hot car! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/drool.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":drool:">
 

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cutting edge forms of solar / wind / electrolysis.
 

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are you talking about the Ford Think or something else? I'm convinced that the hybrid popularity caught companies off guard, they underestimated all the good PR potential as well as the fact it gets a new demographic into the dealerships and half the time you end up selling them something more conventional. Companies used to do some bold stuff like gas turbine engine cars just to let the public know they're cutting edge.<br><br><br><br>
did you just get an XD or something? I'm kind of interested in their new .45, we'll have to get some gun pics up in the photo album.</div>
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I have three xds, or well nine if you count all the interchangables. Service, sub compact, and tac. Each in 9, 357 and .40. i have shot the 45 ACP and its a nice a unit, but i like my 1911's more, so I don't know if I will get one. I am about to order a new Beretta 90 TWO.<br><br>
As for the car, no it was a different car, in fact it was the current 500. The idea was to release a full size car. It looks like we going to be doing the vans in 09...yawn. So many better things on the board but oh well.
 
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