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With bread!? Why should I feel guilty after eating breads and grains, I thought they make up the bottom of the pyramid. Our stupid society with all thier atkins low carb crap makes me think twice about grains. And that is a problem because that is a main staple in my house. I mean it's not like I made crappy bread, it is made with rye, whole wheat, gluten, and a little bit of white four. Pasta, I have whole grain pasta, what is wrong with that? Why do I have to feel like I'm going to blimp when I eat a sandwich on whole grain bread, it is whole grain!? I know there should be plenty of emphasis on veggies, and I know that grains raise the blood sugar quickly and drop, but isn't it still good and healthy? I remember thinking "eww... healthy bread" when I saw one of my friends eating a pb&j on whole grain bread. So basically, is there anyhting wrong with eating whole grain bread? "Regular" people feel guilty eating a candy bar, why should I feel bad eating some bread!? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":mad:"><br><br><br><br>
(This is sort of a rant, so ignore at will)
 

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ahh don't worry Keegan, hard to avoid being affectet when the "carbs are evil"-mantra is omnipresent, just ignore those protein-pushers, whole grains are yum and good for you. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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I totally agree with Azalea. It's incredibly hard not to fall into the "carbs are evil" mentailty if you stumble across it basically everywhere. When I read somethig written by a low-carb supporter my immediate reaction is to write them back a very very mean email, but you know what? The world will never change, and people will always fall for crap like that! The important thing is that YOU know better! You know that whole grains make up the bottom part of the Food Guide Pyramid and that we need 6 to 11 servings a day! You know that grains give us B vitamins, protein, fiber, and starches for energy, you KNOW it! So stop worrying about those stupid diet gurus who try to sell you some humbug, probably just to either drive the world insane, or to sell their insanely pricey products (which end up giving you diarrhea and cramps because they're full of fake sugar). Most people supporting low-carb have NO CLUE about nutrition.<br><br>
I am not saying I'm the master and know everything. To be exact there is probably a million times more that I DON'T know than that I DO know. But I know that much: starches are not evil! Refined sugar may be, but starches and fiber are not!!!
 

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I eat so many carbs in a day I could feed a small country and I am still alive and kicking. Seriously - I bet I have four slices of bread a day, plus cereal for breakfast, a luna bar, pasta for dinner - 3/4 of what I eat is carbs. I believe that anything done in moderation is fine. I wouldn't worry to much about bread as long as it is whole wheat, whole grain or similar.
 

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I must add that I love grains myself ; millet, brown rice, polenta, ww pasta, barley, oats, rye....mmmmm... yah, who needs proteins anyway *lol*
 

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Whole grains DO NOT raise your blood sugar suddenly and then drop. On the contrary, they raise your blood sugar slowly and it takes seveal hours for it to drop. Whole grains, which are complex carbohydrates actually stabilize the blood sugar and are very good for you. Not only do they give you energy to work and PLAY, but they are loaded with B vitamins, minerals and fiber. It is the fiber in whole grains that actually slows down the metabalism of the carbohydrates. Therefore you don't get that sudden burst of energy and then in a short while feel totally wasted. You have a slow release of natural sugars that lasts for hours along with the energy it produces. Here is a quote from one of my health/cookbook "Healthy Choices"<br><br><br><br>
"For decades, the low-carbohydrate diet was the standard that was prescribed for all diabetics. However, James W. Anderson, MD, at the University of Kentucky School of Medicine did a study because many of his patients with diabetes had poor heart health. He then began experimenting with something new: He restricted sugars but not the COMPLEX CARBOHYDRATES like beans, grains and vegetables.<br><br>
\tThe results were remarkable! It didnt just help the heart-health of his patients, it also aided in dropping their blood sugar from 179 to 119! Five of the men who needed pills for their condition were able to reduce or eliminate their insulin injections. Blood cholesterol levels improved dramatically as well! Dr. Anderson says that over 50 studies show that eating high fibre foods not only hold down blood sugar, but triglycerides and cholesterol."<br><br><br><br>
So don't give up your PB sandwiches or your cereal or your beans or your ww pasta or your oats, or your barley, or, or..... your get the idea. Continue to eat your good wholesome breads, cereals and pasta. Bread is the basic diet of just about every cultural group on earth!!!!<br><br><br><br>
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The people who believe all carbs are bad are the same people who get their information, and education, from reading the headlines, not the complete story. Or, they get their opinions from the nightly news medical moments, which are really just press releases. They also tend to believe there is unbiased truth in advertisement.<br><br>
They aren't interested in reading books or studies that provide an endepth understanding of what ever subject they're talking about. Sometimes it irritates the hell out of me how passive people can be about the misinformation, and half truthes being fed to them.<br><br>
I'm done with my little rant now
 

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WHOLE grains are good for you. Complex carbs are good for you. WHITE bread is not. Continue eating your whole-grain stuff and DO NOT FEEL GUILTY!!!
 

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Yay whole grains! Yay spelt! Yay kamut! Yay amaranth! Yay rice! Yay oats! Yay barley! Yay whole wheat! Yay quinoa! Yay teff! Yay rye! Yay triticale! Yay whole grains!<br><br><br><br>
Sorry, I get a little passionate about my whole grains...
 

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Nothing wrong with bread (whole grain or mostly whole grain) or grains (rice, whole grain pasta, millet, barley, etc.)<br><br><br><br>
As VegAnna said - You need 6-11 servings a day<br><br><a href="http://www.vegsource.com/nutrition/pyramid.htm" target="_blank">Food Pyramid</a><br><br>
(if you're Vegan - ignore the references to dairy - I couldn't find a copy of the vegan pyramid that shows actual # of servings listed)<br><br><br><br>
As it said: EAT LIBERALLY (that's my motto!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">)
 

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Awsome, I made homemade bread. At first, I made it with white flour. It was good, chewy and all, but I felt like it was doing nothing for my health. So, I made whole grain bread, with 33% rye, 33% whole wheat and 33% white, with some gluten, and it is SOOO good, very good! It makes great pb&js, great "egg" and "bacon" sandwiches and toast! I love the stuff. I had to kneed it for 15 mins, but it's worth it!<br><br>
Thanks guys. I just was getting this vibe that everyone was like, "too many carbs" or "oh I eat too many carbs" ect, so I was starting to think that everyone was trying to cut carbs or what not.<br><br><br><br>
Oh, another question, is cornmeal a whole grain? I love to make 50% whole wheat 50% cornmeal tortillas, they taste really good.
 

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I have wanted to try buckwheat alot, is it made from wheat or is it a non-wheat? All those cool flours/grains sound like fun! So many breads and pancakes I could make!
 

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Remember:<br><br>
CARBS ARE EVIL.<br><br><br><br>
Most evils in this world need to be destroyed, and I find that the most effective method for the destruction of carbohydrate is by consuming them orally.<br><br><br><br>
Carbohydrate isn't bad. In fact, you need it. peope who are on atkins are starving themselves, except they are eating food. They just don't get any energy, so their body thinks they're starving themselves, and technically, they are.<br><br><br><br>
Whole grain stuff is great. So is white bread, but I don't care about that much. I love both white and whole grain in differing contexts
 

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Buckwheat is buckwheat, not wheat <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I'm not sure if it has gluten in it though (I really don't have a coue about anything gluten-related). I tried to find buckwheat at Fred Meyer, but they didn't have it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> It's strange how in Germany I used to see all this stuff and thought it was just the "strange stuff" that no one buys, and now I am looking for it but can't find it anywhere in stores (argh, sometimes US grocery stores suck!!! nothing personal, lol)<br><br><br><br>
Here's a picture of <a href="http://www.rpi.edu/dept/sts/eevp/images/Image2.gif" target="_blank">a vegan food guide pyramid</a>. Not very pretty, but has the servings on it. Hmm, maybe I should draw my own, something to do for hot and baking summer afternoons <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
About corn. I bet it's better than just plain refined white flour, but here's something I found online:<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block"><b>Corn<br><br>
For the most part, skip corn altogether. Unless you can find maize, which is not hybridized and is higher in fiber, corn is not a good idea. As proof, native Americans began getting diabetes after switching from maize to the modern hybridized corn that is higher in starch and lower in fiber. Before that time diabetes was nearly unheard-of in that population.</b></div>
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Nothing's wrong Keegan. In my post yesterday or the day before in your grains and cravings thread I addressed that whole grains are good for you. And that it was the sweeteners (sugar, honey, etc) that so often accompany grains (pancakes you add syrup, pbj, lots of J, whole grain cereals...do I even need to say how much sugar many of them contain?)--this is what puts you up there...and crashing hours later once the high has worn off.<br><br><br><br>
The key to this though, that you still may be missing is balance. Acheiving balance in your food choices.<br><br><br><br>
6-11 servings of grains a day make up the basis of our diet. Take a look at that food pyramid though that veganna posted. Look at all that variety. You need to be honoring the entire veg*n food pyramid and not just one or two parts (carbs and fruits <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">)<br><br><br><br>
Tricks I've learned to cut my sugar consumption. I never put syrup ON pancakes. I leave the syrup in a little bowl (never more than a tablespoon) and then dip the pancakes. The syrup stays ON the pancake instead of soaking in and making it soggy, and you use less, but your tongue 'tastes' the sweet more. I know you want to avoid measuring which if GREAT. And remember I'm speaking of this not as diet restriction, but as a FULL healthier way to eat.<br><br><br><br>
Congrats on the successful baking. I bake the BEST white flour crusty breads, but haven't yet had a lot of success with brown yet. At least now i know it can be done.
 

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Interesting- I always feel bad when I don't get <i>enough</i> grains, because I know they're supposed to comprise the foundation of the pyramid. For instance: Tonight at dinner, I said to myself, "No, enough crispy fried eggplant, eat your rice."
 

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Buckwheat is gluten-free, it says so on the bag of puffed buckwheat I bought the other day. Oh, and it's yum, I eat it with soymilk and strawberry jam.
 

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Speaking of Atkins....that man had tons of heart attacks and erm...he was slightly overweight. Why are these people listening to him?! *sigh*
 

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I thought Dr. Atkins had heart attacks due to some congenital heart defect? Regardless, his diet is still completely insane.
 
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