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I have seen a number of posts where people have stated that they are 'weaning themselves from meat or dairy products'.<br><br><br><br>
I mean REALLY.<br><br><br><br>
I became vegetarian straight away, and then vegan straight away. What's the point in slowly changing what you eat, because surely if you believe what you believe passionately and you are well informed about WHERE YOUR FOOD ACTUALLY COMES FROM<br><br><br><br>
eg. poor ickle piggies, minding their own business, once roamed, but are now in chops on your plate<br><br><br><br>
then you would want to make the 'transformation' in your diet STRAIGHT AWAY. Any of this weaning NONSENSE just shows you are either<br><br>
1) not strong willed enough to follow your beliefs<br><br>
2) not really serious about becoming veggie<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:"><br><br><br><br>
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Not everyone is V**n for the sake of animal rights, and being an activist.<br><br><br><br>
Some do it stricly for health reasons, so they slowly make the transition.<br><br><br><br>
Then there are people like me, who wanted to use the remainder of her cow cheese in the fridge instead of throwing it away. I did give a lot of my food up when I made the switch, but I couldnt afford to give it ALL away. So, for me it was kinda sudden with a few little exceptions, budget wise.
 

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You're right. I just won't do anything then. I will never be as strong or as dedicated as you so why even try? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:">
 

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Some folks will experience adverse reactions to a sudden change in diet. In fact, some may even feel run down or sick. It's fine to have a moral belief in something, but not everyone's system is identical. It is indeed a shock to the system for many people.<br><br><br><br>
As such, it is better for these people to take their time and ease into it. Otherwise, that sudden adverse reaction may make them think they cannot do it or that their body is unable to make the change, and then go back to being omni... which their body readily accepts.<br><br><br><br>
ETA: Oh, and Muzicfan makes a good point... not everyone turns to veg* for animal reasons... for some it is purely a health decision.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Robert</i><br><br><b>Some folks will experience adverse reactions to a sudden change in diet. In fact, some may even feel run down or sick. It's fine to have a moral belief in something, but not everyone's system is identical It is indeed a shock to the system in many people.<br><br><br><br>
As such, it is better for these people to take their time and ease into it. Otherwise, that sudden adverse reaction may make them think they cannot do it or that their body is unable to make the change, and then go back to being omni... which their body readily accepts.</b></div>
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I felt that.. boy I had headaches, and issues the first couple weeks, but the body adjusted. Now I dont have as many problems.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Michael</i><br><br><b>You're right. I just won't do anything then. I will never be as strong or as dedicated as you so why even try? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:"></b></div>
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WOW How mature. When did I say not to become veggie or vegan?<br><br><br><br><br><br>
P.S. I am not the enemy, merely voicing my opinion.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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Umm, in my opinion, weaning yourself off of meat or dairy is a great way to go vegetarian or vegan. We're very much used to eating a meat and dairy-centred diet, and the "weaning" means that you have a smooth process.<br><br><br><br>
If you ask me, it's bloody hard to be omni on monday and then vegan on tuesday. There's so much research upon e-numbers to do, and you have to go through an extreme dietary overhaul. If you can do it in one day, then I have a lot of respect for you.<br><br><br><br>
But that doesn't mean to say that I don't have a lot of respect for those who wean themselves. I found a humourous guide to being vegan online, and it recommends the weaning process:<br><br><a href="http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/syws/vegan/vegan.html" target="_blank">http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/syws/vegan/vegan.html</a><br><br><br><br>
The point is that respect for those who wean themselves off of meat should be high. They have made a commitment towards improving animal welfare, and should be praised for doing it, even if it wasn't done overnight.<br><br><br><br>
REMEMBER: Rome was not built in a day.
 

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Yes but what I mean is, if it suddenly dawns on you or whatever that your MEAT was once ALIVE and it is killed FOR YOU, then what makes you still want to eat it? (Assuming that you are weaning yourself veggie for the sake of animal welfare/rights)
 

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Giving up meat or dairy is no different than giving up alcohol, cigarettes, drugs, etc. Just because you can quit cold turkey doesn't mean everyone can.<br><br><br><br>
And for someone new to vegetarianism or animal rights doing too much too soon can cause them to get burnt out and quit. Best to do what works long-term.<br><br><br><br>
There are so many people who don't do anything, I just have no patience or respect for people who criticize others for trying.
 

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One may also need time to get resources together. It took me awhile to figure out what to do with tofu. I also had to do a lot of reading to come up with a menu that healthy, convenient and tasty. And again, my reasons for becoming vegetarian weren't based on animals rights.
 

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Wow. I really don't have much to add - I totally agree with what the others have already said.<br><br><br><br>
I'll leave you with this, though: it's that judgemental, absolutist attitude of yours that turns many omnis off to veg*nism totally. How sad that we'd lose a potential new veggie because they felt that there was no room for anything but absolute perfection.
 

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I'm not a bible guy but I'm still going to smack you with some Matthew 7:<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2 "For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. 3 "Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?</div>
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I stopped meat cold turkey, but it was very difficult. I did it not because I cared one bit about animals (I originally went veg for health reasons), but because I figured that if I tried weaning, I wouldn't have the willpower to eventually cut it out.<br><br><br><br>
It is really hard to go from eating the standard American diet one day, to eating a healthy vegan diet the next. For some people, they can do it. Many need a more gradual approach.<br><br><br><br>
I don't care if it takes someone months to cut out meat or other animal products...when they finally do, they are helping both themselves and the animals. We all have different paths.
 

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i stopped meat altogether except for fish then like 1 month later stopped fish (the fish was my parents idea as i was 10 years old)<br><br><br><br>
i went completely vegan over night after learning more about it, but thats because of animal rights and moral reasons<br><br><br><br>
i personally dont care How people get to veganism... as long as they get there<br><br>
every little bit helps<br><br><br><br>
i dont care what their reasons are either, because you could go vegetarian cause the voices in your head say so... and it doesnt matter because you will be saving lives<br><br><br><br>
getting all 'more vegan than you' doesnt really accomplish anything except turn people off from veganism and vegetarianism<br><br>
want more people to go vegan? SUPPORT them!<br><br><br><br>
also i think its better for someone to take 3 months to go vegan and stay vegan forever rather than just jump into it overnight and then sell out a year later<br><br><br><br>
my 2 cents<br><br>
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Wow! I agree with ScareyVegan... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
I even pinched myself and it hurt... so I know I must be awake!<br><br><br><br>
Seriously though... I think she hit the nail on the head.
 

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oh no!<br><br>
robert isn't allowed to agree with me!<br><br><br><br>
i feel wrong now<br><br>
maybe i should edit my post<br><br>
hehe<br><br><br><br>
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I became vegan for animal rights reasons and I did not wean myself, I went straight off the animal products because I was horrified by what it really was and I wanted to stop immediately.
 

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I mean REALLY, what is up with people who go vegan and then get all intolerent of others?<br><br><br><br>
Any of this judging NONSENSE just shows you are either<br><br>
1) not strong willed enough to appreciate the good in what others are doing.<br><br>
2) not really serious about being compassionate of others and their individual circumstances.<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:">
 
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