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I was just thinking.<br><br><br><br>
would you prefer someone you cared about give up meat or smoking?
 

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Smoking. After watching my father die a painful death, and watching as my mother does the same....I'd rather have them eat a burger than go through that.
 

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Out of egoistic reasons smoking.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>kill_uncle</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I was just thinking.<br><br><br><br>
would you prefer someone you cared about give up meat or smoking?</div>
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Meat. Potentially hurting oneself is a choice that one can fairly make because one likes some activity; definitely, directly hurting innocent others is a serious ethical problem. Meat eating as N. Americans do it also has serious consequences for the environment. I'm sure the world has enough self-centered people already.
 

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Smoking... my bf is a smoker/meat eater, and eating meat he can still find ways to be healthy... there's no way around being healthy while smoking though.
 

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Smoking. After watching my father die a painful death, and watching as my mother does the same....I'd rather have them eat a burger than go through that.</div>
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My perspective is different. After watching animals suffer tremendous pain on farms, transport, and in the slaughterhouse...I'd rather have my loved ones get over their selfish desire to taste flesh rather than have the animals go through that. People can choose the consequences of smoking for themselves.
 

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smoking
 

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cigarettes are often tested on animals <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> smoking.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Astarte</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
cigarettes are often tested on animals <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> smoking.</div>
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True, but each cigarette is not made of meat. Smoking doesn't have near the negative impact on animals as eating them does.
 

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I'd rather have them give up meat because at least then they wouldn't be contributing to an innocent's death.</div>
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No just poisoning everyone around them!<br><br>
Smokingggg
 

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Smoking. I've been trying to get Mom to quit for a long time. Her Dad died of lung cancer and I'm worried about her.
 

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Smoking. Definitely smoking. Nicotine is an addictive drug. In one word, it's poison.<br><br><br><br><i>(this is being stated by someone who smoked over 1 pack a day for 20 years... I quit 6 years ago)</i>
 

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cigarettes are often tested on animals <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> smoking.</div>
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Tested?! For what? We KNOW that they kill you. WTF? That is so stupid.
 

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It depends on how much meat they've been eating regularly, and how many packs a day they smoke.<br><br><br><br>
I have friends who smoke at most one cigarette a month. I don't know very many people who eat meat that rarely. A person is far more likely to be an occassional smoker than an occassional meat-eater IME.
 
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