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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mollycakes</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2982038"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I was just curious what everyone does in these situations. Because I was so hungry and low blood sugar I contemplated actually picking out the cheese from the ziti. I was curious to know if any vegan here has actually done something like that- because it sure was going through my head! I didn't thank goodness (I did send my husband out) but it was really a very tricky social situation.</div>
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Back when I was a vegetarian I picked pepperoni off of a pizza once when I was desperate, but since I've been a vegan most food in social situations like that is just too unvegan to bother with.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">I was thinking about it this afternoon, wondering if I'm the only vegan weirdo that gets herself into these situations. I'm glad to see others actually run into issues in the beginning and learn their lessons. I bet all of us have been there - at least once! Where you are kind of socially stuck at something and there is absolutely nothing to eat and you are really hungry!</div>
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Yep, I've definitely been there many times. I don't lead a regular 9-5 life and it makes things very difficult sometimes. There have been times when I've been so desperate that I've gone hours without eating. I hate doing that, but I've been a vegan for too long now to get any comfort out of picking at omni food. I just keep drinking water until I can get away from where I am to get something vegan.
 

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Don't worry, you are not the only one who ends up in situations like that! I usually remember to have a granola bar or two in my purse but have been stuck a number of times. I was at a wedding once that had no vegan options, not even raw veggies or fruit. I took a plate full of steamed vegetables that had butter on them and rinsed them off under hot water in the bathroom. I got some pretty funny looks for that...<br><br>
On a related topic, If I'm a guest in a stranger's house or someone's guest at a restaurant I do the best I can while still being polite, which may mean eating bread or pasta when I don't know what went into the dough. I saw a talk by Carol J. Adams where she talked about how we should be a little flexible in situations like that, because we are all representatives of veganism when we are around omnivores. If an omni's first impression of veganism is me asking the waiter 50 questions about what's in every dish, or refusing to eat any of my host's food, it can give them the impression that being a vegan is extremely difficult and requires you to be a pain in the ass at every meal. She said that will likely turn people off of the lifestyle and make them less likely to ever try it out for themselves in the future. It sort of made sense to me... it doesn't mean you should eat meat or cheese just to appease other people, but maybe not stress so much about the ingredients in food that is normally vegan if that is your only option. I want veganism to seem fun and easy to the people around me, not torturous. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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If I am not going to be able to be prepared and bring my own food, I cannot emphasise enough how good it is to call ahead- even if it's on the same day- and explain dietary requirements. I always say 'vegetarian no eggs or dairy', in some situations it may be wise to add 'or honey'. I have had some amazing, enviable food at catered functions by letting those catering know in advance. You must know that you are going to a catered event (or else I assume you'd eat before/ expect to wait til after) and contacting the organisers or caterers direct should guarantee at least a green salad or some grilled veggies (though in my experience it has been much more).
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Apocalyptica</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2982119"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Don't worry, you are not the only one who ends up in situations like that! I usually remember to have a granola bar or two in my purse but have been stuck a number of times. I was at a wedding once that had no vegan options, not even raw veggies or fruit. I took a plate full of steamed vegetables that had butter on them and rinsed them off under hot water in the bathroom. I got some pretty funny looks for that...<br><br>
On a related topic, If I'm a guest in a stranger's house or someone's guest at a restaurant I do the best I can while still being polite, which may mean eating bread or pasta when I don't know what went into the dough. I saw a talk by Carol J. Adams where she talked about how we should be a little flexible in situations like that, because we are all representatives of veganism when we are around omnivores. If an omni's first impression of veganism is me asking the waiter 50 questions about what's in every dish, or refusing to eat any of my host's food, it can give them the impression that being a vegan is extremely difficult and requires you to be a pain in the ass at every meal. She said that will likely turn people off of the lifestyle and make them less likely to ever try it out for themselves in the future. It sort of made sense to me... it doesn't mean you should eat meat or cheese just to appease other people, but maybe not stress so much about the ingredients in food that is normally vegan if that is your only option. I want veganism to seem fun and easy to the people around me, not torturous. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></div>
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This is an extremely good point in my opinion. The table I was sitting at was watching my dilemma and they all were getting annoyed. I heard someone say, "why don't you just pick off the cheese- what's the big deal?" They must have thought I was crazy that I chose not to eat when I was clearly having a blood sugar issue. I bet they had a terrible view of veganism. 8 people that now think veganism = starving/ annoying.<br><br>
I thought of a great idea for the future. When in a situation like this- I'm going to call ahead and ask specifically what they are serving, and make it on my own- veganized. If its BBQ ribs, I make seitan bbq, if its baked chicken- tofurky, heck- I'll bake a small cake! Then I pack it in tupperware and whip it out when they serve dinner. Then I knock everybody's socks off! Then I bet they go- "wow - that looks awesome- does it taste good?" And I go "you bet" and maybe they would even try it.<br>
That would be a better scenario.....lol
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mollycakes</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2982248"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
This is an extremely good point in my opinion. The table I was sitting at was watching my dilemma and they all were getting annoyed. I heard someone say, "why don't you just pick off the cheese- what's the big deal?" They must have thought I was crazy that I chose not to eat when I was clearly having a blood sugar issue. I bet they had a terrible view of veganism. 8 people that now think veganism = starving/ annoying.<br></div>
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I understood Carol's point when she suggested that we should be flexible, but I also think that sometimes we can reach a point where we worry too damn much about what other people think of us. Funny how omni's who are so annoyed by us never stop to give a crap what we we think of them and their opinions when they say stuff like "pick it off, what's the big deal". <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mollycakes</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2982038"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Thank you!<br>
I was thinking about it this afternoon, wondering if I'm the only vegan weirdo that gets herself into these situations. I'm glad to see others actually run into issues in the beginning and learn their lessons. I bet all of us have been there - at least once!</div>
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I went to a work get together when I had been vegan about 5 weeks and all I could eat was plain crisps (potato chips) and some cherry tomatoes. I think that is why I really plan ahead now.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Scorpius</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2982044"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Vegan lesson of the day: Always pack snacks! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"></div>
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<br><i>Absolutely!</i> Especially for a social situation like a party or a wedding. Just get in the habit of keeping some snacks in your purse, car or backpack.<br><br>
When I fly, I always have snacks, too. I really don't want to be caught without <i>something</i>.
 

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If I am not going to be able to be prepared and bring my own food, I cannot emphasise enough how good it is to call ahead- even if it's on the same day- and explain dietary requirements. I always say 'vegetarian no eggs or dairy', in some situations it may be wise to add 'or honey'. I have had some amazing, enviable food at catered functions by letting those catering know in advance. You must know that you are going to a catered event (or else I assume you'd eat before/ expect to wait til after) and contacting the organisers or caterers direct should guarantee at least a green salad or some grilled veggies (though in my experience it has been much more).</div>
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I travel with my husband for business frequently. Because he is in the computer industry, there have typically been vegetarian options at the various conferences and resorts we've been to (to appeal to the international demographic of the industry), and now there are starting to be many vegan options as well. He always calls ahead for me, and I, too, have been treated with some of the most amazing dishes! I remember one fancy dinner where everyone else got surf & turf, and I had the most wonderful portobello vegetable stack with a gorgeous side salad. My plate was so beautiful compared to the slab of meat, a tail and a few boiled potatoes. Lots of people commented on what a beautiful plate I had. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> At the bigger resorts in the US, I have no concern specifying vegan and expecting them to understand. In other countries, sometimes the issue can be a bit more problematic because it's a less-well known diet choice and our limited language skills ...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:">
 

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I understood Carol's point when she suggested that we should be flexible, but I also think that sometimes we can reach a point where we worry too damn much about what other people think of us. Funny how omni's who are so annoyed by us never stop to give a crap what we we think of them and their opinions when they say stuff like "pick it off, what's the big deal". <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"></div>
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I agree with this. I used to be really concerned about how I came across to people, and how I portrayed veganism. I eventually realised that a) I'm not a walking talking advertisment for veganism, and I don't want to be and b) people probally aren't that bothered about what I'm doing anyway and c) I can't predict how people will react, is it any better for people to think it's okay to serve vegan foods with little bits of cheese on because they've seen vegans eating that?<br><br>
As a general rule, if something is 99% of the time vegan in my experience, I don't check it in a resturaunt/someones house. So for me (in the UK) that includes plain bread.
 

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I am terrible about remembering to bring something, even a lara bar or something, so I occasionally wind up at places with no options and extremely hungry. I just wait it out. I don't really have problems with my blood sugar dropping too low. I run on the low end of normal and if I get hungry enough I will start to feel weak and shaky but nothing like some of you guys get. It sucks but it's my own damn fault because I'm so bad about remembering to carry anything or keep something in the car so I just deal with it rather than add demand to the suffering of someone else.
 

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Mollycakes - That is a great idea to bring your own version of whatever is being served. I've seen a similar suggestion for parents to make a vegan version of whatever treats are being served in school for a birthday or other celebration, and to give some type of pre-wrapped treats to the teacher so they can give them to their child if there is a more spontaneous celebration. That way the vegan kiddies don't feel left out, and they will hopefully have something that looks like what the other kids are getting. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
Nishani and Identity_thief - Yes, I must confess that I worry a bit too much about being seen as a nuisance by my host or friends! When I go out to eat and don't get to choose the restaurant, I look at the menu and figure out at least two or three options so that if the waiter says they are out of some item or that the veggies or rice come with dairy already in them (ugh, this has happened more than once), at least I am prepared without having to pester them too much or send them back the kitchen to ask questions.<br><br>
Has anyone ever told a waiter that they are allergic to eggs/dairy? I've thought of doing that because then they would take you more seriously, and the chef would likely be more accomodating and willing to make you a special meal.
 

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Has anyone ever told a waiter that they are allergic to eggs/dairy? I've thought of doing that because then they would take you more seriously, and the chef would likely be more accomodating and willing to make you a special meal.</div>
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I haven't, but I have said, "it's really important that i don't eat x, y, or z." They seemed to get it.<br><br>
I wanted to say to Mollycakes, as well, from reading her post on page 4, re: she thought she might find someone else in difficult situations, our answers to this question are in no way a judgment of YOU and what you would do, we can only answer what we would do. I don't judge ya, lady. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I would stay away. Drink some juice.. or coffee.. water.. maybe there's some crackers or bread. There's always a way to avoid non-vegan food.<br>
Or of course bring a snack with you <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I haven't, but I have said, "it's really important that i don't eat x, y, or z." They seemed to get it.<br><br>
I wanted to say to Mollycakes, as well, from reading her post on page 4, re: she thought she might find someone else in difficult situations, our answers to this question are in no way a judgment of YOU and what you would do, we can only answer what we would do. I don't judge ya, lady. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></div>
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thank you- I'm pretty emo sometimes- and can get defensive. y'all are might have to get used to it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Has anyone ever told a waiter that they are allergic to eggs/dairy? I've thought of doing that because then they would take you more seriously, and the chef would likely be more accomodating and willing to make you a special meal.</div>
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Yes, but only after they served me cheese that I specifically asked them to leave off.
 

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If I was having terrible low blood sugar and I didn't have food with me in that situation, I'd tell the staff to bring me juice and if no juice were available, I'd eat a sugar packet stirred in water or tea (always at such events, in a hotel or otherwise) and then quickly get my ill prepared ass to the nearest convenience store or the like and buy some nuts, seeds, a piece of fruit or a Naked juice with protein powder in it. Yes, I've done exactly this before.<br></div>
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I thought most Naked juices had whey protein. I will have to look at those again. Do they taste good or grainy? I'm always on the look out for a quick protein boost when I'm in a hurry.<br><br>
Back on topic. I have eaten non-vegan food when my blood sugar drops like that, but I don't call myself vegan anymore, for that reason. I could never eat cheese or eggs in their "whole" form, but somehow a cookie with dairy or egg doesn't seem quite as gross and it beats passing out. I also don't worry about trace ingredients in restaurants anymore either. I won't order cheese pizza and a milkshake but I don't ask for every last ingredient in a veggie burger or the bun. Salad and a baked potato won't get me very far at all. I've tried, many timesl. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> I've been doing much better though at remembering to bring stuff with most of the time but I, too, understand being crazy busy, late for something, etc., and leaving the house unprepared.<br><br>
In your situation above I would have asked for pop or juice, then sent your hubby out as you did. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I definitely would not pick off the cheese and eat the pasta. Just the thought of doing that makes me ill <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">. As others have said, I'd make do with whatever vegan options I could find. Also, I usually have almonds, fruit, a Clif bar or some other snack on hand just for situations like this, as I seem to encounter them a lot <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">.
 
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