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<a href="http://www.consumerfreedom.com/index.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.consumerfreedom.com/index.cfm</a><br><br>
I find it disturbing.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/undecided.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":-/">
 

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I like it only because it's always good to know both sides of a story.<br><br><br><br>
Of course they're very much a propoganda site, run mainly by the meat, dairy, and junk food industries. But the information they give is sometimes stuff you would otherwise not hear.
 

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They're anti-everything. Including anti-common sense.
 

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Just a site run by a guy (I call him Bermie) who would sell his own mother for a couple of bucks. If you want to see what he looks like, look up "corporate whore" from the dictionary*.<br><br><br><br><span style="font-size:xx-small;">*(yes, it's a dictionary with nasty words. and illustrations!!).</span>
 

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It's funny. These "free choice" advocates seem totally dedicated to suppressing information that says the 1950's diet is not the healthiest thing on earth. Look, I don't agree with a lot of what PETA says or does, but I'm not stupid enough to believe Mc Donald's, Tyson, and Flav-o-rich have my best health intrest in mind.<br><br><br><br>
I do think its good to read both sides and not just drink up whatever someone gives you. If we believe those sites who we agree with and never check there facts, they will inevitably lose any objectivity.<br><br><br><br>
If you think its scary, I invite you to check out a few neo-nazi sites. Nothing like unbridal hate and racism to put dietary misinformation in prespective.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>kpickell</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I like it only because it's always good to know both sides of a story.<br><br><br><br>
Of course they're very much a propoganda site, run mainly by the meat, dairy, and junk food industries. But the information they give is sometimes stuff you would otherwise not hear.</div>
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You think a site that writes:<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Americans living in the real world may be stunned to learn that serving a plump bird to eager relatives marks them as cruel Neanderthals with a severe compassion deficiency. Even if your idea of killing a turkey is forgetting the meat thermometer, animal-rights radicals say the mere act of buying one is brutish and nasty.</div>
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is giving you the "other side"? Seriously??<br><br>
I'm not PETA's biggest fan but it's blantly obvious this is a site put up ONLY to desperately try to discredit any animal rights organization. I expected to see something positive about farming but the whole site was just one giant whine about the mean PETA people. That's not the 'other side' of anything.<br><br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Pinkerton</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><a href="http://www.consumerfreedom.com/index.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.consumerfreedom.com/index.cfm</a><br><br>
I find it disturbing.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/undecided.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":-/"></div>
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You should be disturbed:<br><br><br><br><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_Consumer_Freedom" target="_blank">Wikipedia entry</a><br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_Consumer_Freedom" target="_blank">SourceWatch entry</a>
 

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They're heavily biased, and I question how much theydo fight for consumers, because much of the time, it appears not to be the consumers that they stand up for.<br><br><br><br>
They're as bad as PETA.
 

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Like PETA, the CCF are on an ethical mission too, they are working for consumer rights. In fact, they were originally a branch of ACLU, but they were so committed to their struggle for freedom and justice that they became a group of their own.
 

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Like PETA, the CCF are on an ethical mission too, they are working for consumer rights. In fact, they were originally a branch of ACLU, but they were so committed to their struggle for freedom and justice that they became a group of their own.</div>
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<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:"> maybe you should submit that to Berman. He could use it as a new mission statement.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>gaya</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I don't think the CCF and Peta are comparable.</div>
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They're both biased PR-based institutions which are questionable. They're just at opposite ends of the spectrum.
 

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Loki: They may be often rediculous, but at least PETA does some good in the world. It seem as if the CCF is fighting for people's rights to remain ignorant, violent and unhealthy, while striking down anyone who tries to promote humane, healthy well educated lifestyles. It is so bizarre to me.<br><br><br><br>
Epski: Thanks for the links; very helpful.
 

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They're both biased PR-based institutions which are questionable. They're just at opposite ends of the spectrum.</div>
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Well I think that spectrum is relevant: the one group is motivated by nothing but greed and self-gain, the other by an altruistic concern. Plus PETA doesn't try to hide its true aim and motivation under a false pretense: at least I don't think they e.g. would try to claim that they present veg*n health ads out of concern for people's health and not animal welfare.
 

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Well I think that spectrum is relevant: the one group is motivated by nothing but greed and self-gain, the other by an altruistic concern. Plus PETA doesn't try to hide its true aim and motivation under a false pretense: at least I don't think they e.g. would try to claim that they present veg*n health ads out of concern for people's health and not animal welfare.</div>
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Well said. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:">
 

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PETA doesn't try to hide its true aim and motivation under a false pretense: at least I don't think they e.g. would try to claim that they present veg*n health ads out of concern for people's health and not animal welfare.</div>
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No, that would be PCRM. PETA's sister organization.
 
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