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In conversing with omnis, this is one of my favorite points to raise:<br><br><br><br>
They say, "How can you give up so many things?"<br><br><br><br>
I say, "Well, most westerners only eat 4-6 types of meat (probably only 4 for most Americans). So out of all the possible foods in the world, you're only giving up <i>four</i> of them."<br><br><br><br>
They're usually like, "Hmm, I never thought of it that way."<br><br><br><br>
Of course, I just started being vegan, which does mean giving up rather a lot more!
 

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i eat far more now then i did before becoming vegan. people in general find the foods they like best and rotate them. i would bet most veggies have far more variety in their diet then the average omni.
 

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I really agree with that.. I think because as a vegan we need to think about what we put in to our bodies a little bit more we experiement with food, try different ethnic foods and flavourings so much more than most people.. How many non vegans do you know that eat nutritional yeast, quinoa or millet or any of the thousands of wonderful things I have now tried. Being a vegan lets you be really adventurous in the kitchen since you are already outside of the traditional!
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by sunnyk</i><br><br><b>In conversing with omnis, this is one of my favorite points to raise:<br><br><br><br>
They say, "How can you give up so many things?"<br><br><br><br>
I say, "Well, most westerners only eat 4-6 types of meat (probably only 4 for most Americans). So out of all the possible foods in the world, you're only giving up <i>four</i> of them."<br><br></b></div>
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That's what I usually say when I get that response. It generally gets a pretty good reaction. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
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pork chops, ham, bacon, pork ribs, fried chicken, roast chicken, chicken casserole, chicken n' dumplings, steak, pot roast, beef stew, trout almondine, snapper, salmon, crab, lobster, shrimp...<br><br><br><br>
Seems like a lot more than four to me...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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you forgot a few like sausage, bacon double cheeseburgers, patty melts, turkey, bratwursts..I could go on. Yeah, it seems like more to me too.<br><br><br><br>
I don't miss it actually, but when I think about it a lot of what I used to eat isn't a part of me anymore.<br><br><br><br>
Instead I have new things like hummus, falafel, grilled veggies chipolte on flat bread, fresh juice blended with silken tofu and fresh fruit, organic brown rice casseroles, I could go on and on.<br><br><br><br>
I don't eat less. I just eat differently. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by mushroom</i><br><br><b>pork chops, ham, bacon, pork ribs, fried chicken, roast chicken, chicken casserole, chicken n' dumplings, steak, pot roast, beef stew, trout almondine, snapper, salmon, crab, lobster, shrimp...<br><br><br><br>
Seems like a lot more than four to me...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("></b></div>
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You were lucky enough to come for a more culinarily enlightened family, then. I only gave up chicken, chicken, chicken, hamburger, chicken, chicken, chicken, bacon, chicken... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
Anything else I had was for a special occasion & I didn't start eating out until I was already a vegetarian. Jeez -- I can't count the number of nights we had chicken and potatoes at my parents' house!!<br><br><br><br>
I'm definitely much better off this way. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
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It's all basically the same thing. The way I see it I can have all of those same things, only with different ingredients.
 

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Remember as well you're giving up cheese, milk, eggs, ice cream, chocolate, and then all of the products that use these ingredients as well.<br><br><br><br>
If you counted the number of foods that a Vegan / Veggie stops themselves from eating, I'm sure it would be quite a big percentage of all the foods out there in this world. Just ask yourself how hard it is to find food in a supermarket that DOESN'T contain animal products - this is the number of foods that you therefore have "given up" eating.
 

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Yeah, but I really don't count the milk products (except for cheese) because there are alternatives that taste so similar to the originals.<br><br><br><br>
But you are right. I've been vegan now for almost 4 months and it's very hard to just find something off of the shelf. I have to prepare most of my eats <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/lick.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lick:">
 

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I don't see it as giving up at all. I have trouble understandign why anyone would want to eat dead flesh.<br><br><br><br>
Either way, I try far more foods now than I did before.
 

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I think we give up a lot of foods. The reason we try so many more foods like falafel and hummus that we never tried as omnis is because we had to give up so many foods that we felt our choices were more limited and we needed to branch out and see what else was around. And when I say "we" I mean "I" as I'm speaking for myself. I miss a lot of food, especially pizza and ice cream (veggie pizza just isn't the same, either is vegan ice cream, though I enjoy both).
 

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"pork chops, ham, bacon, pork ribs, fried chicken, roast chicken, chicken casserole, chicken n' dumplings, steak, pot roast, beef stew, trout almondine, snapper, salmon, crab, lobster, shrimp..."<br><br><br><br><br><br>
LOL. Okay, I expected that response, i.e. the comments on all the different cuts/preparations of the various types of meat. Of course my statement to omnis <i>is</i> a bit of a fudge, but it's still a fun point to bring up in a debate. And remember, we can prepare rice/carrots/avocados/potatoes/pasta/beans/corn/mushrooms<br><br>
/whatever in a gazillion different ways also.<br><br><br><br>
I don't think about giving up hamburgers <i>and</i> steak, or bacon <i>and</i> ham; I view it as giving up <i>cow</i> and <i>pig</i> as ingredients in any dish.<br><br><br><br>
That said, I totally admit that going vegan feels like "giving up" a heck of a lot more than going vegetarian did. Even though it's only adding two more things, in a sense.<br><br><br><br>
On the bright side, there's a lot more out there that I haven't discovered yet; I see a lot of things mentioned on this board that I've never tried. Also, former "side dishes" have taken on a new appeal. Right now I'm in love with fresh-cooked spinach; I'm like, "Why the heck didn't I eat more of this before?"
 

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The only thing I really feel deprived of is cheese...<br><br>
That being said, my diet as an omni was repetitious and boring.<br><br>
...pizza, hamburger, chicken nuggets, macaroni and cheese, etc.<br><br><br><br>
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You also give up the convenience of going into any restaurant and saying "#38 please..."<br><br><br><br>
Worth it? I just find it necessary.
 

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Don't forget head cheese! Oh, how I miss that one <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> (not really).
 
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