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Well I did let my dogs choose. I went to our local pet food store and picked up about 20 different samples, from expensive to cheap brands, meat-based, veggie and grain-based. I put them in 20 different dishes and brought my dogs out one at a time, they had already eaten their breakie so were not starving. You should have seen their reactions, it was priceless, some of the food they did not even try, some they tried and then spit out. Their overwhelming choice of grub was GO NATURAL. So I feed my dogs Go, and their favorite treat is homemade banana bread.<br><br>
If I lived a so called normal lifestyle I would probably try them on a raw meat and veggie diet. But as I choose to live off the grid {no power for a freezer} and I do not drive{so cannot run to the store whenever I run out of something} It is hard to be consistant with a raw diet up in the middle of the bush.<br><br>
My dogs have free range of 20 acres of grass, bush, swamp, etc. and you should see the things that they eat on their own. For eg: huckleberries, salal berries, couch grass {one of their favorite raw greens}, rotten wood, clay, muck, and one of my dogs used to eat the new growth on the ends of fir tree branches. Years ago one of my older females found a way into my garden, she would go in every other day and dig up and eat a raw potatoe or a few carrots. Good thing I always planted enough for all of us.<br><br>
I tried to go all vegetarian with them at one point. I added cooked grains, more veggies, supplements etc. within 4 days my dogs changed their attitude towards my chickens { don't worry no chickens were hurt too bad }. But where once we all just got along fine things changed, those dogs definately looked at the chickens in a new light. For years they used to see them as yard birds that you just ran by and basically ignored. Well now they truly wanted to EAT THEM. So I put the dogs back on GO and things have been cool since then.<br><br>
It is not that I agree or disagree with putting pets on a total vegetarian diet. But my dogs chose not too!<br><br>
So remember, every being is an individual, what works for some may not work for others. So much these days depends on where you live, who you know, how much money you make, male, female, black, white........ I say just do the best you can with what you have and if you and your pet are healthy and happy. WELL KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!<br><br><br><br>
Hugzzzzzzzzzz to all the pets out there!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hug:"><br><br><br><br>
p.s. I have gone 5 days now on vegetarian fare alone, thanks to Jen and Lisa for all your great ideas and to this site for all the yummy recipes!<br><br><br><br><br><br>
it is not about having what you want,<br><br>
it is about wanting what you already have!
 

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This is a great idea, and not just for dogs.<br><br><br><br>
I put a bag of candies and a green salad in front of my kids and let them choose what to eat.<br><br><br><br>
They chose the candy, surprise, surprise.<br><br><br><br>
Anyway, they wanted me to thank you and to ask you why you didn't just post this in the <a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=61002" target="_blank">thread</a> you started yesterday?<br><br><br><br>
Sorry if that sounds rude, but you know what kids can be like! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"><br><br><br><br>
Cheers!<br><br>
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Sorry jeezycreezy, but my dogs are adults not kids LOL. And as far as posting, threads etc. I am a newbie as far as computers go, I just recently bought my first one, learned how to hook it up and start it. I did not have internet until I purchased a satellite service. So bear with me until I get this stuff all straightened up. But if you have anything you could teach me about the use of my comp.I would appreciate it.
 

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But if you have anything you could teach me about the use of my comp.I would appreciate it.</div>
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You'd have to ask my kids on that one. They're geniuses on the computer compared to me LOL.<br><br><br><br>
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not to one-up jeezy let me try one:<br><br><br><br>
I noticed that when enticed with an optional meeting or intercourse (or video games), 9 out of 10 guys will choose the intercourse(or video games).<br><br><br><br>
wow this way of letting people choose works wonders.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
...i liked the candy one better, oh well
 

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DLS, I'm sorry, but that is a horrible, horrible, horrible way to decide what to feed your dog. I know you meant well, but it's really, really bad.<br><br><br><br>
Dogs do not know what is the most nutritiously sound food. All they know is what smells good to them and what has a salty taste, and that's not the best food for you dogs.<br><br><br><br>
Please reconsider how you feed your dogs, and do a little research into the nutritional needs of dogs. Don't let your dogs pick their own food unless they're capable of reading and understanding the nutritional information on the back of each bag.<br><br><br><br>
I'm also concerned by your comment that your dogs run free, but that's a different topic.<br><br><br><br>
PS: You started a thread about this same exact topic yesterday, and another similar thread the day before... Did you read the replies there? I said pretty much the same thing, that it's irresponsible and even dangerous to let your dogs choose their own food. You need to become a responsible pet owner and realize that dog's are not humans and can not make human decisions.
 

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Afternoon kpickell, Sorry but I have been raising dogs for over 30 years and I am a VERY responsible owner, I DID read the nutritional info. on all the samples I tried with my dogs. But over the years I have found that my dogs needs and tastes have varied, if they go off of a dog food that they normally ate I try a new one on them. Usually I find out later that the pet food company had changed something in their product, my dogs knew it and did not want it anymore. You really should listen to your pets too, they have a way better sense of smell and taste than we do, I do trust their judgement. And my Vet does too, he and all my doggie friends are always asking me what I feed my dogs, cause they are all in such awesome condition and health. And as far as the free run goes, my acerage is fenced, but beyond the fence we have hundreds of acres to parouse when we are out hiking or mushroom picking, no collars or leashes on but I always carry a leash or two with me in case of a bear encounter. And about threads {what the heck is a thread anyway}, up until 6 days ago I had never right clicked my mouse, so sorry, but I am learning. And yes, I know my dogs are not humans, but they can make good doggy decisions.
 

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<b>Update:</b><br><br><br><br>
I did a little more experimenting with this technique this afternoon.<br><br><br><br>
I had one of my kids who is home sick today (the other six are at soccer practice and I sent the healthy one out to get me some smokes) chose between a Twinkie, theater popcorn, some Turkish Delight, and a large bowl of Purina Puppy Chow and, after tasting all four, she barfed violently.<br><br><br><br>
I don't think this is such a great idea after all. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/undecided.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":-/"><br><br><br><br>
Cheers!<br><br>
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jeezycreezy<br><br><br><br>
Stop it, you are really starting to crack me up. But if you start putting your kids in crates, x-pens or enrolling them in obedience classes then lets talk.
 

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I'm not sure if this is off topic or not, but what about dogs that eat things that are supposed to be harmful to them? I know all dogs are different, but I've read that tomatoes, grapes, and I think apples are supposed to be harmful to dogs, but she's eaten them her whole life. Not a lot, usually just during the summer. My neighbor grows cherry tomatoes (1 plant especially for my dog) and has been giving them to her forever (she's 14). She even eats them off the plant sometimes. I also give her a few grapes or apple pieces every now then. So, since she's never had any ill effects, I assume their fine for her, but wonder what you guys think about that.
 

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DLS, a thread is a post that you made which starts a new topic.<br><br><br><br>
This thread was titled "What do I feed my dogs?". The thread you started yesterday was titled "Chew on this for awhile!" And the thread you started the day before was titled "Pets as Vegetarians?". But they were all basically about the same thing--your idea to let dogs choose what foods they want to eat.<br><br><br><br>
I think if you really truly let dogs choose what foods they want to eat, they would choose chocolate and radiator fluid for automobiles. Both of which are very very appealing to dogs, but both of which are very poisonous to dogs.
 

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Thanks kpickell for the definition of a thread, I really appreciate any info. as I am new to all this stuff. But not to raising dogs I assure you, I let my dogs choose from things that I HAVE chosen for them to choose from. Therein lies the difference. or is it lys, does anyone have spell check, see kids that's what happens when you only have a grade 9 education. SO STAY IN SCHOOL!
 

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I'm not sure if this is off topic or not, but what about dogs that eat things that are supposed to be harmful to them? I know all dogs are different, but I've read that tomatoes, grapes, and I think apples are supposed to be harmful to dogs, but she's eaten them her whole life. Not a lot, usually just during the summer. My neighbor grows cherry tomatoes (1 plant especially for my dog) and has been giving them to her forever (she's 14). She even eats them off the plant sometimes. I also give her a few grapes or apple pieces every now then. So, since she's never had any ill effects, I assume their fine for her, but wonder what you guys think about that.</div>
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A few pieces now and then are fine, but should be avoided. The problem with grapes and raisens is that they cause kidney failure and it's not noticeable until it's too late. Apples pieces are fine, it's just the seeds will cause stomach aches, same as in humans.
 

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But if you start putting your kids in crates, x-pens or enrolling them in obedience classes then lets talk.</div>
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Oh yeah, they were all crate trained at a young age—makes it <i>much</i> easier for my wife and I to go on trips.<br><br><br><br>
Heh, you know, I still remember when our firstborn son Benji Creezy III used to chew on remote controls, pillows, coasters, you name it, any time we left him alone for an extended period of time. He's much happier now in his crate with his Legos, believe you me.<br><br><br><br>
They say you learn the most from your first child and I believe it.<br><br><br><br>
Cheers!<br><br>
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DreamWavez, If your dog is 14 and healthy, then you are obviously doing everything right. Moderation is the key, a few grapes now and then are just fine. If my dogs show an interest in something I am eating I let them try a little, most of the time they just spit it out but sometimes I find a new treat that we all like, my pitty just loves cucumbers, go figure!
 

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OK jeezycreezy, But what about the obedience classes?</div>
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No need. I clicker trained them myself.<br><br><br><br>
(If you're ever at my place: It's three quick clicks per beer they will bring you. Four if you want something imported.)<br><br><br><br>
Cheers!<br><br>
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Clicker training is a good idea! What happens if I am at your place and my finger spasms and I do 5 clicks?
 

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jeezycreezy<br><br><br><br>
Clicker training is a good idea! What happens if I am at your place and my finger spasms and I do 5 clicks?</div>
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All nine of my kids form a human pyramid. It's the cutest thing. It makes me feel so proud to be their mom. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smitten.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":smitten:"><br><br><br><br>
Cheers!<br><br>
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5 clicks and a pyramid, I bet that would be a sight to behold for sure, I am going to see if my dogs would care to try that one. Anyway my battery supply is running low, this computer sucks a lot of juice, the sun is not out today {sounds like a song} so I am going to have to run my generator for awhile to re-charge. I will be back to this site later. Everybody have a great day, hugzzzzzzz to all the pets and chilin's
 
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