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Okay, so I'm a pretty new vegetarian. And I live at University, and today I saw that one of the resturants that the University provides for us now has veggie burgers. This made me happy and I decided I wanted one today. So I went and asked the nice young lady for one. Only when I got it, it turns out that it was an actual meat patty. I went to her and asked her if this was real meat (because I've only had a couple veggie burgers and don't really know all that well what they look like) and she said "yes". I explained to her that I didn't eat meat and told her I was confused because I wanted a veggie burger and I pointed out that new sign that they had that said they now serve them. She seemed to have a Eureka moment and after some uneeded comments from another employee who said veggie burgers and meat burgers are "basically the same" she got me one. Now this is where it gets crazy. I take it back to my dorm, only now that I looked at it closer, it doesn't look like a veggie burger. It looks like chicken or something. I am so confused, do they not know what veggie burgers are? I was kinda upset, but...I just don't know. What would you guys do? What is this burger? This makes me very sad. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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Next time ask if you can see the box. Just explain that you want to make sure it's really vegetarian. It might be awkward this one time but then in the future you'll know and won't have to ask.<br><br>
I basically grew up vegetarian so I honestly didn't know if something was meat or not. I can't just taste something and know - I have no memory for it. So I just have to ask, read, whatever. It's no big deal, really. Just initially it's a little awkward but then you get used to it.
 

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Next time ask if you can see the box. Just explain that you want to make sure it's really vegetarian. It might be awkward this one time but then in the future you'll know and won't have to ask.<br><br>
I basically grew up vegetarian so I honestly didn't know if something was meat or not. I can't just taste something and know - I have no memory for it. So I just have to ask, read, whatever. It's no big deal, really. Just initially it's a little awkward but then you get used to it.</div>
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Alright, I'll try next time.<br>
Thank you <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Yeah, I'd ask to see the box. Or maybe to speak to the manager - not to pitch a fit or anything, but just say that there was some confusion last time and you want to make sure you're getting what you order.<br><br>
You could also preface your order by asking the waitress, "So I heard you offer veggie burgers now. Is that true? What brand are they?" Throw in something about how you're so happy that they have a burger for vegetarians. If she STILL got it wrong after that, that'd be pretty incredible.<br><br>
Some restaurants are fantastic about meeting dietary needs, and others really just don't listen at all <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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Yeah, I'd ask to see the box. Or maybe to speak to the manager - not to pitch a fit or anything, but just say that there was some confusion last time and you want to make sure you're getting what you order.<br><br>
You could also preface your order by asking the waitress, "So I heard you offer veggie burgers now. Is that true? What brand are they?" Throw in something about how you're so happy that they have a burger for vegetarians. If she STILL got it wrong after that, that'd be pretty incredible.<br><br>
Some restaurants are fantastic about meeting dietary needs, and others really just don't listen at all <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("></div>
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Haha, that sounds like a smart idea. But just to clarify these restaurants are student run and their kind of more like a store, I guess. You go in, order your food, get your food, pay for your food and then leave or sit. It's like a gas station(only sans sitting area)! They even have frozen microwavable food and packaged processed things. Not that it really matters :p Thanks for your advice! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> I will be sure to implement!
 

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Yeah, I think even just asking for the brand would be a good idea. They probably get that frequently anyway, because people would be allergic to some.<br><br>
Also be aware that some non-meat patties do look like chicken, particularly Quorn's Chik'n patties - I wouldn't necessarily know from looking if it was chicken or not.<br><br>
THe ones that are made from mushrooms or grains usually are pretty obvious. Amy's, for example, don't look like any meat I've seen.
 

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<div class="quote-block">She seemed to have a Eureka moment and after some uneeded comments from another employee who said veggie burgers and meat burgers are "basically the same" she got me one.<br></div>
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<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:"> What a moron.
 

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Wow, that seems like a terrible situation. I think if employees at restaurants mix something like that up, they should be in big trouble lol. I think everyone knows that a veggie burger is a vegetarian burger... sigh. Yah just be cautious next time at that particular restaurant.. talk to the manager about it.
 

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I basically grew up vegetarian so I honestly didn't know if something was meat or not. I can't just taste something and know - I have no memory for it. So I just have to ask, read, whatever. It's no big deal, really. Just initially it's a little awkward but then you get used to it.</div>
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I had a roommate who told me that he used to trick his vegetarian ex-gf by cooking with bacon fat, she loved his food and never knew why. Needless to say, they are no longer together.
 

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First thing to bear in mind that this is just a hurdle and not the end of the world. Do not get upset.<br><br>
Why don't you just call the manger and query the person about the veggie burger ? It may be easier for you if you feel you can't face the person or take in snide remarks from staff.<br><br>
I'm sure you'll feel happier if you do something about it then just getting upset by eating something that may not be veggie.
 

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^^^<br>
I agree, I'd probably be a lot happier. And I also know that it won't be as bad as I think it will if I just call them. But I can't get over the irrational fear of talking on the phone and basically complaining to a stranger. But these are personal issues that have no effect on your wonderful advice. Thank you very much!<br><br><br>
And thank you everyone else as well! You guys are amazing and I feel completely less anxious about posting this thread.
 

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^^^<br>
I agree, I'd probably be a lot happier. And I also know that it won't be as bad as I think it will if I just call them. But I can't get over the irrational fear of talking <b>on the phone and basically complaining to a stranger</b>. But these are personal issues that have no effect on your wonderful advice. Thank you very much!<br><br><br>
And thank you everyone else as well! You guys are amazing and I feel completely less anxious about posting this thread.</div>
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Bear in mind that you're not phoning to complain but to query him on the food that the firm is selling. This is really part of the person's job and most people are delighted to offer help. This makes them feel most wanted and important.<br><br>
Go on, I dare you to phone.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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Oh darn, I can't resist a dare :p<br>
I may try in the morning. It'll be hard for me. I can't even bring myself to call housing or financial aide when I have questions because it's so nerve racking. I'm not really sure why. I don't get test anxiety, but I do get phone anxiety...which is unfortunate :p I just need to get over it and overcome! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Firstly, do a little practise aloud. Write down a short script and jot down some key words. Take a deep breath and just pick up the phone. Tell your-self that nothing awful can happen and even if it doesn't work out it is not the end of the world.<br><br>
I deal with customers over the phone and believe me it is much easier to to do this way then to actually see them.
 

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You're completely right. Thank you. Your fantastic. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> And your user pic is enchanting...<br><br>
I'll try my best.
 

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^^^<br>
You're completely right. Thank you. Your fantastic. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><b>And your user pic is enchanting...</b> <span><span><span style="text-decoration:underline;"><i>Thank You. I also think that it is one of the most beautiful photos ever and I'm planning on making a photo book out of the collection.</i></span></span></span><b>I'll try my best</b>.</div>
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<br><i><span>So will be perfect than. Good luck.</span></i>
 

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Okay, so I'm a pretty new vegetarian. And I live at University, and today I saw that one of the resturants that the University provides for us now has veggie burgers. This made me happy and I decided I wanted one today. So I went and asked the nice young lady for one. Only when I got it, it turns out that it was an actual meat patty. I went to her and asked her if this was real meat (because I've only had a couple veggie burgers and don't really know all that well what they look like) and she said "yes". I explained to her that I didn't eat meat and told her I was confused because I wanted a veggie burger and I pointed out that new sign that they had that said they now serve them. She seemed to have a Eureka moment and after some uneeded comments from another employee who said veggie burgers and meat burgers are "basically the same" she got me one. Now this is where it gets crazy. I take it back to my dorm, only now that I looked at it closer, it doesn't look like a veggie burger. It looks like chicken or something. I am so confused, do they not know what veggie burgers are? I was kinda upset, but...I just don't know. What would you guys do? What is this burger? This makes me very sad. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("></div>
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A little tip for if you need to ask to see proof of a product being vegetarian ..<br><br>
Most caterers have an understanding of the importance to muslims and jews of making sure their food is halal or kosher. Free of any pork products at the very least.<br><br>
You can hinge off the back of that by politely explaining that for "similar" reasons you have to be equaly sure that your food contains no meat product whatsoever.
 

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I had a roommate who told me that he used to trick his vegetarian ex-gf by cooking with bacon fat, she loved his food and never knew why. Needless to say, they are no longer together.</div>
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This is a little off topic for the the question at hand but...<br>
We went camping with my family and my uncle was doing the cooking and i got a plate of eggs. I took one bite and could totally tell they were cooked in the bacon grease. I asked if they were and sure enough they cooked all 2 pounds of the bacon and the threw the eggs in there. DISCUSTING. Bacon is a very distiguisable taste in my opinion. Fron now on jf they dont cook the egfs first or in a differnt pan kristin doesnt eat.
 

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I agree with everyone else, just get up the courage and ask more questions. You have to take charge of yourself and be assertive. It's awkward, but it feels good to know for sure.<br><br>
I have had issues with my college as far as accommodating my dietary needs. They do have veggie burgers, they're the black bean burgers, but they cook them on the grill in the same space as the beef burgers, and so I do not get them. I tried to explain to them that cooking veggie burgers on a beefy, greasy grill makes them no longer vegetarian, but they don't get it. They assume that because there's no meat pieces in it, it's still fine. One of the cooks told me I needed to stop being so picky and hurry up because there was a line. I now just make my own salads and sandwiches and such in my dorm.
 
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