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Just curious on what everyone uses as far as hair care and skin care. I've been using ABBA's line of hair care products for about a year now and their stuff totally rocks. I even heard that Brittany Spears likes Abba's hair products so much that the one demand that she made during the filming of her first movie was that the trailers be restocked each day with ABBA hair care products so that the actors could always look their best.<br><br><br><br>
As far as skincare, I love Origins. It's a slighly pricier line and not toally vegan but about 85% of their products are and they'll even mail you a list of their non-vegan products if you ask.<br><br><br><br>
Anway, definately post which products you use, hate, etc.
 

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I have been looking for a new shampoo and conditioner that does not contain sodium laurel sulfate. I have been using Avalon Lavendar Shampoo & Conditioner but it's really drying my hair out. Anyone know of something that's cruelty-free and s.l.s.-free and is good to your hair?<br><br><br><br>
Haven't heard of ABBA. Love the singing group, though... I love Origins stuff and was just thinking of asking for some of their products for Christmas. They send me a $10 gift certificate every year on my birthday, too. Great company.<br><br><br><br>
I'll have to think of more stuff I love later.
 

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Hey Bebe,<br><br><br><br>
You must live on the east coast. Abba haircare products are some of the best haircare products sold on the west coast. The entire line is completely vegan and all of the labels are written more or less in layman's terms. Of course that means you can figure out pretty easily what is in each product. Abba's haircare is not affiliated with the swedish music group at all but, like the music group, they totally rock. You can actually get some great prices on abba haircare products on ebay but I encourage you to research a bit to determine what you need.<br><br><br><br>
Here are some descriptions of their product line to help you out. They are also available at Trade Secrets stores all over the U.S.<br><br><br><br>
Pure and Natural<br><br>
There is a strong desire within each of us to be the best we can be... inside and out. At ABBA, we understand part of that feeling comes from looking your best. We believe that for your hair to be the best it can be, you need the finest hair care products that can be made.<br><br><br><br>
Our commitment is to produce high performance products to help you achieve the results you want - shiny, healthy hair with style and manageability to match the pace of your lifestyle.<br><br><br><br>
Environment First<br><br>
Every formula is a pure and natural one. All our products are formulated from only the purest natural botanicals, herbs and essential oils from plants, flowers, fruits and berries. These biodegradable formulas are 100% Vegan- no animal ingredients are ever used. We put the environment first, acting responsibly to make every product safe for you and our world.<br><br><br><br>
It is a quality that sets ABBA apart from all other. The basis of our superior quality is the combination of the herbaltherapy with our unique tri-molecular protein system. These three proteins, hydrolyzed human hair keratin, soy and wheat, penetrate the hair to completely condition and correct any damage. The ultimate result is inner strength and outer shine.<br><br><br><br>
All of this combined with aromatherapy essences for a positive sense of well-being, help to complete your beauty therapy experience.<br><br><br><br>
We invite you to discover the difference ABBA can make in your life- waking each morning to healthy, shiny, manageable hair!<br><br><br><br>
Here's a link to a page with descriptiions for the entire line.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.lorabeauty.com/original/abba/" target="_blank">http://www.lorabeauty.com/original/abba/</a>
 

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Cool. Thanks for the info! Yes, I am on the East coast in NY. We have Mamma Mia on Broadway (which also totally rocked) but not ABBA hair care products, that I know of. I'll have to do some investigating.
 

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Cool. Yes, just check with trade secrets for Abba Hair care products. I know there are quite a few trade secrets stores in NYC so you shouldn't have a problem finding them. Trade secrets has the full line of Abba hair care so you should be able to find whatever you need. Let me know what you think of them. Also, if you let me know what kind of hair you have I can definately make a couple of suggestions for you to start with. So far, Abba Hair and Origins skincare lines are my absolute favorites.<br><br><br><br>
Ciao,<br><br><br><br>
Mark
 

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I use Kiss my Face lotion and liquid bath soap. In Canada, the drugstore chain Shopper's Drug Mart offers animal product free shampoo, conditioner and hair gell in its own Life Brand line. These work just fine for me and are very inexpensive.
 

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For skin, I use Kiss My Face A&E Moisturizer. I also use Olive Oil soap, I don't know if that helps any.<br><br><br><br>
For my hair, I use Organics Chamomile & Lemon Verbena Conditioner. For shampoo I use Organics or what is on sale (cruelty and animal free). I also use Giovanni, Styling Lotion.
 

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Hey Bebe,<br><br><br><br>
I also have dry curly hair so here's what I use. Currently I use the Abba moisture scentcensation shampoo and and condition. Occassionally, I rotate and use the nourishing conditioner which I love. The nourishing is a leave-in all day conditioner that's really nice. I also use their gelsentials gel and one to two times a week I balance out everything with their molasses purifier which strips out all the buildup from my hair and that's pretty much it. The products all smell nice and my hair stays shiny and healthy. There are a few places on the web that sell abba hair care and i'll add a few links but definately check on ebay.com Many haircare stores sell their stuff online and you can get their products for incredible savings.<br><br><br><br>
anyway,<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.lorabeauty.com/original/abba/" target="_blank">http://www.lorabeauty.com/original/abba/</a><br><br><a href="http://www.alphabeauty.com/brand/Abba.asp" target="_blank">http://www.alphabeauty.com/brand/Abba.asp</a><br><br><br><br><a href="http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?GetResult&query=abba&from=R10&ht=1&currdisp=2&itemtimedisp=1&st=2&category1=26395&Top10=&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&catref=C1" target="_blank">http://search.ebay.com/search/search...Sort&catref=C1</a><br><br><br><br>
definately check around though because some seller on ebay try to sell their abba hair care products for more. I always look for the real cheap prices on ebay and sometimes I get lucky. That's how I got to try a lot of their products. I bought one or two products from trade secrets and then just about everything else off of ebay.<br><br><br><br>
Mark
 

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Mark:<br><br><br><br>
Thanks! Maybe I'll ask for some for my birthday or something. They sound really nice.<br><br><br><br>
- Valerie
 

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I use stuff from kiss my face and dr. bronners. I really like dr. bronner's soaps. I use Tom's of Maine deoderant. I thought Origins was really part of a bigger company that isn't vegan? Like the same company that makes the Clinique line. I remeber reading something that most of the main-stream beauty lines are just different divisions of like the same three companies. So even though one particualr line may not be tested on animals it doesn't mean the entire company doesn't test on animals.
 

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Miss Meg,<br><br><br><br>
I've also heard something similar about Origins and Clinique being owned by the same parent company but Clinique does not test their products on animals and, like Origins, will even send you a list of their vegan products. Actually, very few cosmetic companies test their products on animals. Clinique is one of the good guys so to speak. They ended their animal testing quite a few years back because they were/are a progressive company and new it was time to change. If memory serves me correctly it was Lancome that took a bit longer do end their cruel research.<br><br><br><br>
Origins products are produced in the U.K. since it is a U.K. based company. The United Kingdom has and always will be years ahead of us on ending animal cruelty especially with their mad cow disease having caused so many deaths.<br><br><br><br>
We can't always expect to find absolutely pure "vegan" companies. If I had it my way every company in the world would be vegan. Of course if every company would be vegan then you'd have no problem with buying new tires for your car or repainting your house, etc. since these everyday items all contain an ingredient that comes from animal products.<br><br><br><br>
Origins is a good guy. I love their products and I know they don't test anything that goes on my face on animals. We all are entitled to our opinions but I just wanted to add my two cents for what it's worth.<br><br><br><br>
M
 

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I think everyone needs to make their own decisions. I wasn't criticizing I was just giving a heads-up. I'm really lucky to have a healthfood store near me that carries just about every product you can think of from cruelty free/vegan companies. I also shop from Pangea and Veganessentials when I can't find something at my local store. I understand that not everyone can find such a great variety of vegan products. I consider myself very lucky. I tend to shy away from big corperations whenever possible but I think it's really great that many companies have stopped animal testing.
 

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Hi Miss Meg,<br><br><br><br>
Yes, I understand that you weren't criticizing and everyone must make up their own decisions. This much I agree with you on. The only thing I was pointing out is that just because a company like Origins is owned by another that may have been a bad guy at one point is no reason to not support them. We all live and learn by our mistakes and I know Origins is very proud that they don't test on animals and also that they do offer many vegan products for skin and hair that other companies don't. Personally, I admire them for being such a unique company. They unlike imagine foods for example didn't start out producing a product for a select group and then suddenly betray them after becoming highly successful. Imagine Foods on the other hand started out producing products exclusively geared to a vegetarian/vegan market then after becoming extremely well off introduced an organic chicken broth under the same line. What they should have done is create a subdivision with a new label for that chicken broth so as not to offend all of their loyal vegan and vegetarian consumers but that's not what they did. They chose to confuse vegans and vegetarians by adding a vegan chicken broth to their lineup.<br><br><br><br>
I also shop and pangea and Sherry Kalina and her husband Paul are both good friends of mine. I do believe we should support stores like Pangea and Vegan Essentials who make life a bit easier for us. I also believe we should support the other companies like Origins and Abba that don't have a lot of exposure but make fine products. Abba Hair is completely vegan where Origins is not. Still they have the same goal in mind which is to create a line of products with the least amount of harm to environment, animals and humans. I like origins because they are also environmentally conscience about their products, packaging, etc. We can't say that about very many companies so, for this reason, I choose to support origins like I supported the body shop years ago.<br><br><br><br>
I'm not trying to debate anything with you Meg. I just wanted to point out reasons for supporting a company like origns. clinique, etc. They have gone out of their way to created products for vegans which shows that they know what kind of buying power we vegans and vegetarians wield. I don't buy from every company that calls themselves environmetally friendly or cruelty-free. I only buy from the companies that are progressing for the betterment of the environment, humans, and most importantly; the animals.<br><br><br><br>
Mark
 

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I just wanted to share my e-mail reply from natures organics regarding animal derived ingredients in their products.<br><br>
They also sent me a product list that shows stockists and $RRP.<br><br>
Thought they were pretty helpful. They have a range of Hair care, skin care and household cleaning products...My house runs on their household products...dishwashing liquid, washing detergent etc etc<br><br><br><br>
anyway the e-mail.<br><br><br><br>
Dear ___<br><br>
We appreciate your interest in contacting us regarding animal derived<br><br>
ingredients.<br><br><br><br>
We would like to assure you that we do not use any animal derived<br><br>
ingredients in any of our products. We also do not test any of our products<br><br>
on animals.<br><br><br><br>
We have attached a full list of products and retailers for your reference.<br><br>
For more information you can log onto our website at<br><br><a href="http://www.naturesorganics.com.au" target="_blank">www.naturesorganics.com.au</a><br><br><br><br>
Thank you for taking the time to contact us as we greatly value the support<br><br>
of each and every one of our customers.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Yours faithfully,<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Danielle Carlisle<br><br>
Customer Service<br><br><br><br><br><br>
So there you have it, they even requested a notification of reciept, which I thought was a sign they kinda cared.
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I LOVE Origins!! I try to read the labels and visit their website and ask lots of questions before I buy one of their products b/c so I can get the vegan ones, but I'm sure I flub up sometimes. But, I really like their stance on animal cruelty and the environment. Plus, their products ROCK! I was just at the Origins counter on Friday buying a facial scrub and the woman gave me free samples of all kinds of stuff. Very cool.
 

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I use Origins and Paul Mitchell. I get the PM cheap and can score free hair care because I work at a salon. FYI Abba introduced a skin care line that is not vegan. However Abba does have some nice products. The thing I avoid from the line is those containing human hair extract. Yuck.
 

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I am an Arbonne fanatic! Which is why I became a consultant...<br><br><br><br>
I LOVE Arbonne's cleansing lotion for my face, and of course, the moisture cream for normal to oily skin. I just switched to the new anti-aging formulation that Arbonne just came out with though...hopefully I will love that just as much. I don't know what I would do without Arbonne. I used to use that olive oil soap someone else mentioned and it totally wreaked havoc on my skin. The pH level was way to harsh for me.<br><br>
Arbonne's shampoo, conditioner, and Thermal Fusion for hair and scalp are the 3 most perfect products for my hair. I get so many compliements on my hair <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Abonne aside, my husband LOVES Giovanni's natural mousse.<br><br>
I am in search of a new hairspray. Right now I use Rusk in an aresol can because I can't get my hair to do the stuff I want it to do when I use a pump hairspray.
 
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