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I was surfing the web for vegan sites when I ended up on a pro-anorexic vegan messageboard. At first I was angry, but after reading through some of the messages I felt both sickened and sad...I wanted to leave a message but what to you say to people like that???<br><br>
has anybody else come across websites like this?<br><br>
if you want here is the addy<br><br><a href="http://pub97.ezboard.com/fanorexicnationonlinecommunityfrm1" target="_blank">http://pub97.ezboard.com/fanorexicna...ecommunityfrm1</a>
 

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These kind of boards are all over the place. Apparently, it's quite popular in high schools to be friends with Ana (i.e. have an eating disorder). Honestly, I don't know what you can say. If it's not against your ethics, I suppose you could go in covertly as an ana-supporter and slowly have an epiphany.<br><br><br><br>
I've come to the point of view (from personal and professional experience) that eating disorders share some traits with other addictions. A sufferer usually has to hit a personal bottom before life changes are made. Relapse is also extremely common. This isn't to say that you can't do anything though. I think the best thing to do is be a point of nonjudgemental support for friends and family that have an eating disorder and to have a healthy relationship with food and your body for yourself.
 

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I've seen plenty of pro-ana sites, including that one, or at least I thought I did but I didn't remember it being a vegan site... Though I'm not sure you could even call it being vegan, on account of often people with anorexia will claim to be vegan just so they don't have to eat such-and-such a thing that someone offers them. With myself trying to recover, sites like that make me so sad to see all these people who are still going through this hell, and with PRO-ana, it's often willingly... Yeesh.<br><br><br><br>
It would have been pointless for you to leave a message anyway. They would have been incredibly rude to you for trying to speak with any amount of logic to them, and completely ignore your message. With something like that, one can't be helped until one wants to be, no matter how much you may try...
 

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I hate those sites. And I've been to quite a few.<br><br>
They can make anybody with weight issues feel awful about themselves. Yeah. Including me.<br><br><br><br>
I just went in there for a minute or so, but it killed me reading some of those posts. It makes me angry, yes, but moreso it saddens me tremendously to see all the self-hate, ED-glorification, the-thinner-the-better attitude present there.<br><br><br><br>
Yet there's nothing I can do to help.
 

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There are LOTS of pro-Ana websites and communities out there, but I guess that's the only one that is also for vegans. (but, by the looks of that one, it really didn't look like it was really emphasizing the vegan part anyways. Who knows?)<br><br><br><br>
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These sad, broken, suesidal souls. Torn by Ana (that hateful @#$%*), feeling worthless and useless and they're dying to be thin, literally. Some of the posts I read made all kinds of memories from my ED days come back, most of them not very good at all. It just breaks my heart to see someone write <i>"Now, I am 87lbs, and back on the road to self destruction. I WILL starve myself to death. i do not deserve a life, just to be buried in a hole in the ground, and burn in Hell. ANA`S Great - come on girls, let`s die together. At least we`ll be beautiful outwardly (pressure sores are SO sexy - though sex drive is utterly diminished in Anorexia).<br><br>
SEE YA IN HELL, girls"</i>. OMG! How sad is that? To actually encourage someone else to "let's die together" or to "stay hungry"?<br><br><br><br>
As I write this, my heart is breaking so badely that I can hardly type and it makes me appreciate, more than ever, those dear people here that are on THIS BOARD, fighting hard against the prison that Ana brings and doing it with foods that nourish properly and with people that encourage eating for health instead of staying in the starvation, wracked with guilt that Ana brings and feeling horrible for "pigging out" on 5 cherrios in a 2-day period.<br><br><br><br>
And to those "warriors" that are fighting against ED, even now, I would like to say <b>"You are beautiful. You are likeable. You are smart, you are attractive, and you have a lot to offer. There are people that love you and want you to be around for a very long, long time. You do not deserve to die, you deserve to live and be happy in your life. You deserve to have people around you that will bring out the best in you and you deserve to be someone that brings out the best in others. Keep fighting. Keep battling so that you can win against the monster that tries to distroy you. You are tougher and you can do it. You were made for good things and you were made to bring good things to others"</b>
 

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This actually made me think. I always had this impression of anorexics that they were ashamed of it, not proud of it. Seems odd they'd congregate at a pro-board. Do they spend their time justifying it, or what? I don't get it.
 

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There's a difference between pro-anorexic and just anorexic. You'd have a hell of a time trying to explain it to the pro ones though <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:"><br><br><br><br>
Pro-anorexia is more or less viewing it as a lifestyle choice rather than a life-threatening illness. Most people on these pro boards are just looking for a quick way to lose a few pounds, a new diet plan, and when they tell these stories of how they're so miserable and whatnot, they're often full of sh*t.<br><br><br><br>
Any true anoretic I've ever known was rather ashamed of it, as you said. I know I sure as hell was.
 

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Anorexics should definately try out this thread for size... coz fluids<br><br>
are better than solids IMO, especially if your body is not agreeing<br><br>
with solids....<br><br>
Anyway this idea rocks, in my awesome opinion and I am all for it even if not anorexic!!! ->><br><br><a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5535" target="_blank">http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/s...&threadid=5535</a><br><br><br><br>
BUT I REALIZE SOLIDS ARE IMPORTANT TOO AT SOME POINT...and<br><br>
should be downed with plenty of fluids such as generated by my preference for ways to eat comfortably without the grossness associated with some types of solid foodery.
 

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I decided to quit starving myself when I see other people enjoying their food, and not letting food take over their lives. My heart screams, "It's not fair!!!" but I know I'm the only person preventing that natural relationship with food from developing so I decided to stand up for myself and stop this ED from taking over. I'm still on the journey and it's tough. But I believe in myself and in good time, I will come through. In the meantime, I think people recovering from ED should not visit pro-ana sites so as not to be lured back into the deathtrap.
 

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Yeah, I've been to loads of Pro-ana sites. They're full of poo. Anorexia is depressing, obsessive, horrible, anxious, makes you feel like a piece of crap, makes you lose hair and be freezing all the time, takes over your life, takes your energy away, ruins relationships with friends + family, do you want me to go on? I have a bit of experience you know <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"> I caught mine pretty early on, when I just calorie counted compulsively, but no matter what, it's horrid horrid horrid.<br><br><br><br>
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When my ED was really bad, I frequented pro-ana sites all the time, not because I was proud of my eating disorder, but because it was, well, motivating. I got ideas, I saw other peoples "success" stories ( <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:"> ), and I was inspired to continue my self-destructive crap. However, it irks me to hear of people using veganism as an excuse, because veganism is about more than diet. I was a vegan before I ever became anorexic, and I never saw those two things as having a relationship, though others may have percieved it as so. I only hope that those using veganism as a way to further their EDs come around and see the other, important aspects of such a lifestyle. It's really sad.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
(Note, so I don't get bonked by Krista or anyone else: I don't know what is actually on that site because I'm refraining from viewing anything that may be triggering for me, so I don't know how much veganism is emphasized there.)
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Cissy</i><br><br><b>is depressing, obsessive, horrible, anxious, makes you feel like a piece of crap, makes you lose hair and be freezing all the time, takes over your life, takes your energy away, ruins relationships with friends + family</b></div>
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Sounds a lot like VB sometimes!
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by epski</i><br><br><b>Sounds a lot like VB sometimes!</b></div>
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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Vegankat</i><br><br><b>veganism is about more than diet. I was a vegan before I ever became anorexic, and I never saw those two things as having a relationship, though others may have percieved it as so. I only hope that those using veganism as a way to further their EDs come around and see the other, important aspects of such a lifestyle. It's really sad.<br><br>
I'm refraining from viewing anything that may be triggering for me, so I don't know how much veganism is emphasized there.)</b></div>
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.......Wise words, and I don't blame you for not going back to see what <i>was</i> back when you had ED!!<br><br>
.......Veganism is more than just about diet, you are right... and that yes life is so much more than just dietry matters, but to live we first need to get our diets in balance. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by VegAnaconda</i><br><br><b>.......Wise words, and I don't blame you for not going back to see what <i>was</i> back when you had ED!!</b></div>
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Oh, don't get me wrong, my ED is still very much active, but I'm not going to let it gain control anymore. I'm beating it into submission. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"> One day I hope to be able to say, "Back when I had an eating disorder. . . " but for now, I'm fighting it on a daily basis.
 
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