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Awhile ago, this YouTube video was brought to our attention. It was created by a former VBer who lost her son last year in a car accident. The video describes the importance of 5-point harness carseats. On the YouTube page, there are links to pages with opportunities to learn more about these seats. You can also learn more about Kyle, his family, and the foundation which they've started at <a href="http://www.kyledavidmiller.org" target="_blank">www.kyledavidmiller.org</a><br><br><br><br>
Be warned...have your Kleenex ready before pushing "play".<br><br><br><br>
 

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Thank you for posting this. I'll pass on the info to my sister for my niece.
 

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That is sad. The other thing they didn't emphasize is that plain seatbelts aren't really designed for children's bodies, and can cause injuries to the organs when they do work that can be life threatening.<br><br><br><br>
However, this video talks about seat belts not working. How often does this happen I wonder? I've never heard of this ever happening. If it happens often enough, what about adults????
 

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I started doing some searching and found an interesting conversation on this same video <a href="http://groups.google.co.uk/group/misc.kids/browse_thread/thread/2da90bcd5095bd4e/87dfe336f4d07a11?hl=en&" target="_blank">http://groups.google.co.uk/group/mis...4d07a11?hl=en&</a><br><br>
Someone echoed the same thoughts I had when I saw the video:<br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">According to the video, the child died because the seatbelt failed.<br><br>
And if the seatbelt had failed on a carseat with a 5-point harness? No<br><br>
different result. The carseat flies loose, the child dies. Solution?<br><br>
If the seatbelt failure rate is really as claimed, then why aren't we<br><br>
demanding better seatbelts for everyone (instead of suggesting that<br><br>
people buy overpriced carseats from Britax)? People here have<br><br>
suggested that the difference is LATCH for the carseat. But that's not<br><br>
saying that a carseat is better than a booster; its touting LATCH as a<br><br>
backup for seatbelts. But that doesn't change the fact that the<br><br>
problem was seatbelt failure, not that the kid was a in a booster. (I<br><br>
have an older car and have never used LATCH. Wouldn't LATCH work on a<br><br>
convertible toddler-booster seat, in the booster mode?)<br><br><br><br>
The film states that *most* 6 year-olds put the shoulder harness behind<br><br>
them (concluding that means you need to buy a 5 point retraint system<br><br>
for them). If One (or one of his friends) tries to put the belt behind<br><br>
them, the car stops. Period. It doesn't happen in my car, and it<br><br>
doesn't need to happen in anyone else's car.</div>
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Some people suggest this video is really a commerical for the company who is the only one who sells the kind of seat mentioned in the video.
 

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While I've been touting LATCH for a good while, to the parents with whom I work, I must admit to not knowing very much about 5-point harnesses. One of the big things I'm gathering from reading discussions on the subject (it's been getting some press lately) is that the harness will keep the kiddo safer when the seatbelt fails, because they wont be thrown completely free.
 
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