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Ever since making the decision to go meatless, I have been researching the food industry. All this knowledge is turning into an obsession with me. I am becoming increasingly depressed. I am disgusted and sad knowing about the meat industry and feel helpless to do anything about it. My non supporting it seems so little. I have even looked into the pet food industry, oh my God, it's awful!<br><br><br><br>
I have been reading about genetically altered foods and am repulsed. My goodness, "they" are even starting to put human genes into rice! I am starting to buy all organic, but have been reading that as organics become more popular, even organic isn't what it used to be. I am looking into buying a greenhouse and buying organic plants and seeds and doing all of our own growing. We currently have a very big garden and are expanding. Before all of this research, I thought that I was doing a good thing. We don't use pesticides at all, but the fact is, probably most of the plants and seeds we bought in the past were genetically altered anyway. Hopefully, by growing our own totally organic veggies, I can get by some of these fears.<br><br><br><br>
I opened some yogurt this morning fully intending that it would be my breakfast and got grossed out thinking of the dairy industry and what could be in there. I put it back and had a bowl of cereal w/ rice milk. I would like to go vegan, but just starting on this road, I think it would be too overwhelming at this time, although I know it is the right thing to do. I guess baby steps to my goal.<br><br><br><br>
What makes all this harder is that I have two children. I want them to be healthy and I know I am on the right road to this, but I am afraid to force my ways on to them. I cook only organic, veggie dishes at home. I let them know I don't want to eat meat, but haven't done a really good job of explaining why, only that it is healthier. I am depressed since I found out what the meat industry is all about (I was so nieve, I didn't know dairy cows ended up being hamburger) , I feel kind of mean telling them at such a young age. They are starting to ask questions and I answer them as they ask. Is there an age appropriate way to explain this stuff, they are 5 & 7. I have a hard time making myself say these awful things.<br><br><br><br>
Sometimes, I wish I could go back to my "ignorance is bliss" days, but the door is open and I can't go back.
 

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There are so many positives about you could be letting external factors get you down , probably your make up , you seem to be very sensitive .<br><br><br><br>
Dont worry there are many like you who didn't or don't realize about the fate of some of the animals mention but to take self guilt onto your self is not good<br><br><br><br>
You are doing a tremendous amount of good via your lifestyle , growing veggies etc .Try not to be to analytical where things come from , if your intent good (which in your case it is ) on how you want your life , what you want to eat , how you bring up your kiddies you will attract the right energies .<br><br><br><br>
Cant advise you on what to say to your kids (dont have any) but there are heaps on the board that will willing offer advice .<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hamster.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hamster:"><br><br><br><br>
By the way I am lacto-veg and have no problem with it<br><br>
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I agree with how you feel-once you have enough information about factory farming,companion animals,etc.,there's no going back.It can become very depressing if you let it.<br><br><br><br>
At least you've taken a stand on something you believe in and at least you're raising compassionate kids.That means a lot and it's more than many people are willing to do.<br><br><br><br>
Maybe you can get your kids some books that aren't graphic in nature and answer their questions in regard to the books? I think they have children's books on vegan essentials.Please,feel better. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I feel that way sometimes but I try to focus on the positives that happen and the good things I am doing (not to mention everyone here) to combat all the bad. It does get to you sometimes though.<br><br><br><br>
As for kids I face the same dilemma. They've been raised omni (a 7 1/2 year old and 2 4 1/2 year olds). I don't want them to eat meat, it's wrong in so many ways but they continue to ask for it (have an omni hubby so I don't feel I can say they can't have meat while they sit there watching hubby eat it in front of them!!) and I don't know how to explain the horrors in a kid friendly way. Ugh.
 

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I would do something like a hobbie. It would help you believe that you are making a difference, which you are. Take up gardening, get involved with your community, join a society. I recently joined PETA. I don't believe in everything that they do, it is kind of extreme. But, the majority that they do is good. I feel like I make a little bit of a difference with a vegetarian diet and a PETA member. I also feel like I should do something else.
 

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i completely understand the feeling of helplessness. i sometimes let the knowledge of what happens to animals (especially the horrible things done to animals in China in particular) really get me down. personally i don't feel that my not eating any meat or dairy makes a difference, rather that at least i can rest a little easier knowing that i do not have any part in it.
 

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I experienced similar depression upon going to work for the Humane Society in Tucson back in the 90s.<br><br><br><br>
I really wanted to help with the enormous stray dog and cat population in southern AZ but it was so depressing having a steady stream of people bringing in their dogs and cats, expecting them to be adopted the next morning by the perfect family and live happily ever after.<br><br><br><br>
I'd ask them why they were giving up their animal. The most common excuse was they were moving and the new landlord didn't allow pets. We would suggest they didn't move and they looked at us like we were crazy. When we'd tell them their pet would almost certainly be dead in 3 days some would become emotional but not a single person ever changed their mind.<br><br><br><br>
Sometimes over 100 animals a day were euthanized in the shelter. I cried in the shelter. I cried on the way home. I cried myself to sleep. I finally had to walk away.<br><br><br><br>
If this inappropriate in this thread, I apologize.
 

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Thank you all so much for your kind words. Coming here has helped me, just knowing that I'm not alone in my caring about things that to most just don't seem to give a second thought to. My whole life I have been told that I am immature about the subject of animals. Finding out that there are more "immature" people just like me gives me comfort and a bit of faith that there are good people out there (sometimes, they seem few and far between).<br><br><br><br>
PKK- not inappropriet at all. This year around New Years, I was reflecting and feeling like I wanted to do something that would make a difference. I thought about working at our local animal shelter. The very thing that kept me from doing it was knowing I would have wanted to bring them all home with me. I still make my donations to them and support them in every way I can, but I don't think I would be a strong enough person to be there knowing that some of them wouldn't make it.<br><br><br><br>
I am feeling a little better today, your kind words felt like a big hug. Thank you again, I really needed one.
 

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Treehugger and WildTigerCubs,<br><br><br><br>
Since you both have small children, I would like to recommend a book called 'Disease-Proof Your Child: Feeding Kids Right'. It promotes a plant based diet as being optimal in terms of health, and goes into the relationship between childhood diet and adult disease. The book explains why diet has an even more crucial impact on growing children than on full grown adults.<br><br><br><br>
This is a very powerful book for parents to read, and definitely should be shared with the omni spouse. It might be just what it takes to get them to re-think their own diet, as well as the impact that their example sets for the kids.
 

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Hey Treehugger267. I think a lot of people who come to understand exactly what humans are doing to animals go through something like this, I did.<br><br>
You have to look at the situation in terms of what you're doing about it, and try to feel good about that. Decide on the best/most you can do to help animals and then extract yourself from it, otherwise you're in danger of spending your life in sadness and depression. Someone suggested getting a hobby, you just need something to distract yourself from thinking about it all the time. Then if you find your resolve wavering you can always go back to it. I just don't think it's very productive to wallow in the sadness of the world, though I know it's sometimes hard not to.
 

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Ever since making the decision to go meatless, I have been researching the food industry. All this knowledge is turning into an obsession with me. I am becoming increasingly depressed. I am disgusted and sad knowing about the meat industry and feel helpless to do anything about it. My non supporting it seems so little. I have even looked into the pet food industry, oh my God, it's awful!<br><br><br><br>
I have been reading about genetically altered foods and am repulsed. My goodness, "they" are even starting to put human genes into rice! I am starting to buy all organic, but have been reading that as organics become more popular, even organic isn't what it used to be. I am looking into buying a greenhouse and buying organic plants and seeds and doing all of our own growing.</div>
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First things first: think of an avalanche, or a tidal wave. ENORMOUS POWER. Yet, when you think about it, it's only a lot of little snowflakes, or a lot of drops of water. You may not see yourself as making a difference by not creating a demand for animal flesh, but there are millions of vegetarians in the USA alone. That has GOT to have an impact.<br><br><br><br>
About organic: you could look into heirloom varieties of the crops you're growing. You might want to check out our "Digging in the Dirt" forum since you're interested in gardening.<br><br><br><br>
I don't know what to say about your children... every one is different. But they will of course find out what meat is eventually.
 

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If you want to be even more depressed, rent or netflix the DVDs:<br><br><br><br>
The Future of Food<br><br>
The Corporation<br><br><br><br>
All about GMO foods, and the Monsanto corporation, which should scare the hell out of all of us...(the Corporation is broader, about more than just food)<br><br><br><br>
Fast Food Nation is a good book (have not seen the movie yet -heard it's not so great)<br><br><br><br>
I get overwhelmed too. But all I can do is shop at places where I have a better chance of finding healthy foods (Whole Foods, Trader Joes, etc). I always check labels to look for "Organic" "Non GMO", to make sure cows are not treated with hormones, etc. Another great option is a local farmer's market - where you can support local farmers and not big corporate farmers...<br><br><br><br>
You can't be perfect all the time, but the way you can help to change the world is by the choices you make. Where do you spend your $$? It seems like a little, but the more people that choose to live consciously, the better everything gets.
 
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