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<p>I'm looking for advice on preparing to conceive. I'm a healthy veggie and eat a good range. Anyone got any top tips? Any advice from veggie mums to be or those who have already taken the plunge would be so gratefully appreciated. </p>
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I have not experienced a pregnancy, so my advice is on the aspect of TTC and family planning.<br><br>
The standard rules apply. Start taking prenatal vitamins now (there are vegan versions available). Most prenatals will have extra iron. Stay healthy (eat right, exercise). And if you have problems after a year (or 6 months if you're over 35) then go see a fertility doctor <i>with</i> your partner.<br><br>
SInce you said you are already low in iron, here's a link with info about how to increase your iron absorbtion though diet: <a href="http://veganhealth.org/articles/iron" target="_blank">http://veganhealth.org/articles/iron</a><br>
(I'm bean-crazy so I'm never low in iron. Never in my life have I been low! But my sis, who is vegetarian, was low during her pregnancy and she just took some iron pills and had a healthy boy. He's almost 12 now and perfectly healthy.)<br>
And here's an article about vegan pregnancy: <a href="http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/preginfchil" target="_blank">http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/preginfchil</a><br><br>
If you're open to it, you might consider genetic testing now so that you can prepare for or prevent any serious diseases. (For example, Cystic Fibrosis, Tay Sachs, Sickle Cell). Most of those tests are simple blood tests that your doctor can order for you. They may not be covered by insurance but I think it's worth the money.<br><br>
If you're open to it, consider adoption. There are thousands of kids in the US and millions of kids worldwide who need a family. There are ALL kinds of adoptions available (open, closed, semi-open, infant, toddler, teen, healthy, special needs, etc. etc. etc.). Here are some resources on that:<br>
US fostercare - <a href="http://adoptuskids.org/" target="_blank">http://adoptuskids.org/</a><br>
International - <a href="http://adoption.state.gov/" target="_blank">http://adoption.state.gov/</a><br>
Private domestic - you're on your own, there are lots of different agencies and resources<br>
General info about adoption - <a href="http://adoptivefamilies.com/" target="_blank">http://adoptivefamilies.com/</a>
 

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<p>Thanks so much elaine. the veganhealth.org site is wonderful. i'm bean mad too but perhaps not as regularly as i should be. also the vit c tip whilst consuming iron foods is great. <br><br>
On adoption and fostering, ill kep an open mind.</p>
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<p>dont know how available genetic testing is in uk.<br><br>
thanks again for the tips. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></p>
 

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I'm getting ready to conceive too and I didn't know about veganhealth.org. That site will be so useful. Thanks for posting that and good luck!
 

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I'm not sure that preparing to conceive, as a vegan, is so different than it is for omnivores. Start with the basics...<br><br>
-If you smoke, quit.<br>
-Limit your alcohol consumption.<br>
(the man needs to watch these as well)<br>
-take a Folic Acid supplement with at least 400 mcg/daily. Vegheads usually get loads of FA, but it's better to be on the safe side as low levels are linked with neural tube defects<br>
-make sure you're getting enough calcium in your diet<br>
-try and reach a healthy weight, as weighing both too much and too little can impede ovulation<br>
-limit your caffeine intake, avoid taking ibuprofen and avoid paracetamol/acetaminophen around the time of ovulation<br>
-start keeping a record of your cycles, if not already, looking for signs of ovulation<br>
-your other half could take a zinc supplement if he's not getting a lot in his diet...helps with sperm production<br><br>
Has your low iron been diagnosed with a blood test to check ferritin levels? I ask just because some of the docs I've seen would note a low hemoglobin level and assume that my iron was low too. This actually just happened a few weeks ago actually.<br><br>
Knowing your cycle pattern was the most helpful of all to us. Knowing when the big O (no, not *that* big O) was coming each month helped us to make sure we were "doing it right" around that time too. (different positions, mostly <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">). Good luck! At least it's fun trying, eh? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Thanks for the links in this and other info. We are finally going to try after we are settled down from this move and other stuff. So I will look into those also.
 

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Really great advice above.<br><br>
I adopted internationally and would be glad to answer questions about that if you decide to head in that direction.
 

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Just heard one of the authors of the study discussed here (<a href="http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20110601/prenatal-vitamins-may-lower-autism-risk" target="_blank">http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/ne...er-autism-risk</a>) on NPR today talking about the link between early consumption of pre-natal vitamins and a lower risk of autism.
 

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Yes I was discussing pregnancy and raising children as Vegetarians to my husband. He said they will eat what we will eat so if i eat a Vegetarian diet they will be Vegetarian however, I am going to have a Vegetarian pregnancy when I conceive. I will be checking into that Vegan Prenatal vitamins after August and September when we get more cash.
 

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<p>thanks for the feedback peacefulveglady and iamjen.</p>
<p>plenty sex, no alcohol, caffeine, balanced veg diet, vegan pre-nats etc, fingers crossed </p>
<p>Any other ttc vegan/veggies out there?</p>
 

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Thanks for the update, we had to stop because of my pre cancer scare, however I am getting into healthier foods and getting on track again with the veg diet, I had several mishaps along the way the last several months but, with spring and summer coming, I am getting more active and i am going to get out more and do things and get healthy for a little one. I am 35 in November so I only have 10 years left of healthy pregnancy's. I am giving it a go after I shed some pounds and get healthy.
 

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I found this website: <a href="http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/veganpregnancy.htm" target="_blank">http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/veganpregnancy.htm</a><br>
I thought it was great for advice on preparing yourself for a vegan pregnancy, it gives all the specifics nutrient wise of what you need in your body while growing a baby. Its would be a good idea to start adopting this sort of a diet before you become pregnant.<br>
I also like the area where it gives you advice about how to explain your diet to your OB or midwife who seems objectionable. It suggests that you keep a food diary for a week and break down the nutrient levels- (calories, fat, protein, calcium, iron, DHA sources, etc) so that there is no question that you are getting the healthiest diet possible, and that you are educated in the matter. Its good ammo, I think!
 

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I didn't see it mentioned here yet so...<br>
Vegan Pregnancy Survival Guide:<br><a href="http://www.herbivoreclothing.com/vegan-pregnancy-survival-guide-by-sayward-rebhal/" target="_blank">http://www.herbivoreclothing.com/veg...ayward-rebhal/</a><br>
It's a book that's supposedly pretty funny while also being helpful and informative.<br>
But... I can't vouch for it since I haven't read it nor have I experienced pregnancy <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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<p>Thanks for the recommendations girls. Molly, I like the idea of a weekly diary. Elaine that book looks fantastic. </p>
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@peaceful Im so sorry to hear you havent had a good year. I think focusing on staying healthy helps keep me positive! I was reading the 'Fertility Diet' which promotes a vegan / raw diet but has interesting ideas. One is that as long as we are ovulating we have the potential to conceive and that we can slow down our bio age by eating and living a healthy lifestyle.<br><br>
@molly did you or do you plan to have a vegan pregnancy?<br><br>
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@molly did you or do you plan to have a vegan pregnancy?<br></div>
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I have 2 kids already- a son who is 3 and a daughter who is 20 months old. For my daughter, I went vegetarian for the last trimester of my pregnancy. A year later I went vegan.<br>
If I have another baby, I will most certainly be continuing to live the same lifestyle. I have already given it much thought, me and my husband jokingly banter back and forth if we are going to have another one. I looked up a ton of info on the matter just in case I do become pregnant again.<br>
I have a feeling my OB would look at me like this: <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":huh:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/shocked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":eek:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":huh:"> having known her for a long time. I think I definitely need to be prepared with her if it ever comes up, but I don't plan on bringing it up unless she asks. I don't feel it is important to share, I feel it will open pandoras box for unnecessary scrutiny and stress. Since I am confident in my abilities to have a healthy pregnancy, and raise healthy kids, I don't need her advice on the matter.<br>
I have been giving thought to using a midwife at home anyways, and she refuses to do home births. We will have to see.<br><br>
Good luck to you with your ttc journey!
 

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Thanks for the recommendations girls - weekend reading!! Molly, I like the idea of a weekly diary; I feel healthy, in fact I feel great and I think I have a balanced diet but would be great to have the evidence in black and white. Elaine that book looks fantastic. There feels like a nomans land of information supporting me in my choices, yet I know this is the healthiest way to live!!<br><br>
@peaceful Im so sorry to hear you havent had a good year. I think focusing on staying healthy helps keep me positive! I was reading the 'Fertility Diet' which promotes a vegan / raw diet but has lots of interesting ideas. One is that age is only a number and as long as we are ovulating we have the potential to conceive. So its our biological clock that counts, and that we can slow down by eating and living a healthy lifestyle.<br><br>
@molly did you or do you plan to have a vegan pregnancy?<br><br>
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Thanks , we are looking into natural ways finally to get me fit and healthy, I am still learning to do some natural things but it will take time, Yes i agree age is just a number.<br>
My husband and I are talking how we are frowned upon because of Veg diets and natural diets and doctors look down on a person why doing so. He found a natural tea to help with our health and he is looking at reviews and it says FDA don't approve of it, of course its natural. I am wondering where are the threads that woman came here saying that they had problems with thier doctors with their Vegan or Vegeterian pregnancy ?
 

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as long as we are ovulating we have the potential to conceive.</div>
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Well... remember that it takes two to conceive. You might be fertile as all get-out but if your partner has issues (from injury, disease, or unexplained) then you're out of luck unless you want to use a sperm donor. And in about 30% or more cases it's the guy who is infertile, not the woman. Obviously, you want to get as healthy as you can now for a number of reasons - to improve your chances of conception if that's what you want. But also so that you have the energy to care for a small child (no easy task) and so you will be alive and well for your kid as they grow up. But if you get healthy and you don't conceive, it might not be anything you're doing now. The reason for infertility might be poor health in the past or it could just be random. Here is a good factsheet on infertility: <a href="http://www.womenshealth.gov/publications/our-publications/fact-sheet/infertility.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.womenshealth.gov/publicat...nfertility.cfm</a>
 

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Most doctors give supplementary iron and folic acid during pregnancy. Vegetarians usually get lots of folic acid, far more than carnivores, so its harmless but unnecessary. Supplementary iron, unless following a serum-blood test and finding it low, is reprehensible, and no responsible doctor should give it. Alcohol drugs and smoking during gestation are unthinkable in any quantity. Eat a good mixed veggie diet and forget supplements unless diagnosed as ill. The best sources of calcium are not the ones with high calcium content (cheese, for example, actually leaches it out), but foods such as oatmeal, spinach, etc., from which it is readily absorbed. Trust food, not doctors or health-shops. The vegetarian is on firm ground, health-wise, as compared to the meat-eater.
 

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Sigh. A folic acid supplement is a wise choice in that it's water-soluble vitamin and so needs to be eaten every day. Women in early pregnancy often have morning sickness and food aversions, etc. There's no risk of folic acid toxicity for the average woman and the risks associated with a deficiency are severe for the baby.<br><br>
As for iron, it's not always necessary, but the protocol is a bit different in pregnancy. As someone who's been anemic both pg and not, I can testify that it takes a good while to re-build iron stores. When you're talking about a 7-10 month time frame of pregnancy (possibly less if the deficiency isn't found til later in the pregnancy), your window of opportunity to correct the problem shrinks dramatically. It's not crucial probably, but reprehensible is a completely unfair term to use.
 

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Well, Jen, not according to a national Blood Service leaflet I have, which states:<br><br>
"A Warning About Iron Tablets<br><br>
* No-one should take iron tablets unless blood tests for iron stores show that iron deficiency is present. Iron tablets should be taken only if recommended by a Doctor, or a Nurse with training in iron treatment.<br>
Multivitamin tablets that contain iron, and herbal iron remedies, are not included in this warning and are acceptable.<br><br>
* About 1 person in 300 absorbs excessive amounts of iron and develops a serious problem from iron overload and must not take extra iron tablets of any type. A common symptom of this condition is tiredness!".<br><br>
I agree with your comments re folic acid. The manufacturers extract it from our bread, to make it white, leaving "the pure white heart of the grain" - i.e. starch devoid of nutrients, the vital outer husk going to pig food. In stead of making them put it back again (as a supplement), why not make manufacture and sale of white (non-wholemeal) bread illegal? Which wiould wipe out diabetes overnight.
 
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