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<a href="http://vegetarian.about.com/od/vegetarianvegan101/tp/newfoods.htm" target="_blank">http://vegetarian.about.com/od/veget...p/newfoods.htm</a><br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/pibo.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":pibo:"><br><br>
If anyone has gmail, you know the link thing at the top that you scroll through? That is were I found this link today! How cool!<br><br><br><br>
Thought it might be a useful little info bit to sow people who are interested in what to eat.
 

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OK, great, but frankly, I'd rather tell people to try beans and rice and vegetables than a whole list of meat analogs and egg replacers.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Tesseract</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
OK, great, but frankly, I'd rather tell people to try beans and rice and vegetables than a whole list of meat analogs and egg replacers.</div>
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Well yea, but they can be cooked together too. Obviously we souldn't come across like we only eat fake meat, but the fact hat it exists makes vegetarianism look less like deprivation to people who "like their meat too much."
 

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I think omni's who expect fake meats to taste like the "real" thing are going to be disappointed... personally focusing on beans, seitan , tempeh and tofu works better.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>purrpelle</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I think omni's who expect fake meats to taste like the "real" thing are going to be disappointed... personally focusing on beans, seitan , tempeh and tofu works better.</div>
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Yea to that too. I always point out that although they do taste very good, they do not taste exactly like the real thing and that one should try them with an open mind. I usually mention that mnay vegetarians do not want them to taste exactly like real meat products because we do not find it desirable.
 

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The link DOES focus on tempeh, tofu etc. The seven must-try things are:<br><br><br><br>
1) Tofu<br><br>
2) Seitan<br><br>
3) Tempeh<br><br>
4) Egg Replacer<br><br>
5) Nutritional Yeast<br><br>
6) Textured Vegetable Protein (TVP)<br><br>
7) Soy Ice Cream<br><br><br><br>
I don't think it's that horrible of the list. I mean, it could have been like this:<br><br><br><br>
1) Amy's texas burger<br><br>
2) Yves veggie dogs<br><br>
3) Tofurky roast<br><br>
4) Light life chick'n strips<br><br>
5) Gimme Lean Sausage<br><br>
6) Amy's microwave dinners<br><br>
7) Yves canadian bacon
 

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Right. Although I eat things from that second list you put together... thanks. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I dodn't look at the link, truthfully. I was just commenting.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>ReginaCeltarum</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Right. Although I eat things from that second list you put together... thanks. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></div>
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So do I, on occasion. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
I was just noting that the list <i>isn't</i> all overly-processed convenience foods, which was the impression I had from Tess' post before I read the link.
 

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I have to agree with Tess. I was eating vegetarian for a long time before I tried any of these foods. Many vegetarians eat primarily grains, legumes, and vegetables that are already part of an omni diet too. Many people are conservative about their eating habits, and seeing a bunch of "exotic" unfamiliar foods as representative of vegetarianism can turn them off, or cause them to see vegetarianism as "weird".
 

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While tofu, tempeh, seitan, and TVP aren't meat imitations in quite the same sense that fake bacon or sausage is, they're meat analogs in the sense that they tend to simulate many of the qualities of meat both aesthetically (chewy mouth feel) and nutritionally (high protein), and people tend to use them in place of meat in meals.<br><br><br><br>
I think the point of the article was probably to make people aware of foods they might not already know about, which is good. I think my issue is that the article, especially the way it's titled, seems to promote the idea that turn an omni diet into a vegetarian diet, you just replace meat and eggs with these, which is not accurate.<br><br><br><br>
But let me add that I do agree more positive public exposure of vegetarianism is a good thing, even if it doesn't recommend the exactly the foods that I'd recommend.<br><br><br><br>
I was also vegetarian for a while (not as long as Seusomon, I don't think) before I started eating these things, and I just ate vegetables and grains and fruits and legumes. And I was happy, and I kind of want to go back there. Now that I've discovered these other things, they've become a habit that I think I want to get away from a bit.
 

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Oh man.<br><br><br><br>
Other people could replace meat with Styrofoam and calculators for all I care.<br><br><br><br>
I'll just be happy they're laying off the animals.<br><br><br><br>
Baby steps here people. Baby steps. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Cheers!<br><br>
TJ
 

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Other people could replace meat with Styrofoam and calculators for all I care.</div>
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Do you have a recipe for that?
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Tesseract</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Do you have a recipe for that?</div>
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What? For my Casio Casserole? Yeah. I'll write it out for you some time. :p<br><br><br><br>
Cheers!<br><br>
TJ
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Tesseract</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I think my issue is that the article, especially the way it's titled, seems to promote the idea that turn an omni diet into a vegetarian diet, you just replace meat and eggs with these, which is not accurate.</div>
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Oh ok. My interpretation was that your issue was promotion of highly-processed foods, as opposed to whole foods (you said <i>I'd rather tell people to try beans and rice and vegetables than a whole list of meat analogs and egg replacers</i>), and that's why I pointed out it could have had waaay more processed foods on there.
 

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I bake all the time and I've never used Egg Replacer. I usually use soy flour or fruit.<br><br><br><br>
I've never even tried that, TVP, Seitan, and only recently Nutritional Yeast (blecch).
 
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