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Hello! I love writing Stories/books (or atleast attempting books)<br><br><br><br>
I came up with an interesting science on Vampires that I realized would allow Vegatarian Vampires.<br><br><br><br>
Basically, vampires in this, are normal humans at heart. However, their iron gets used up very quickly.<br><br><br><br>
- The Vampire virus attacks Mitochondria, the energy providers for us.<br><br>
- Normally, the virus just causes the Mitochondria to fail and the person looses all natural energy, but some Mit. can handle it.<br><br>
- Those who adapt begin to develop certain abilities which is caused by new (slightly psychic) energy production.<br><br>
- This new form of energy uses the Iron in the blood to help amplify and channel the new powers, the problem is is that it also damages the iron, making it unstable and esentially dissentigrate.<br><br>
- Strong usage of abilities will actually destroy the blood as well. Once the blood lessening reaches a certain point, they loose control, and have to attack something and take the blood. They can't think through it.<br><br>
- There bodies still produce blood as normal though, and through light usage, and high iron foods like rasin bran, and cream of wheat, they may never even know.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Any body have a take on this, changes or ideas you would be interested in?
 

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Sounds really cool! I admit the first thought I had was Bunnicula. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> (A vampire rabbit in a children's book that sucked the juice out of carrots).<br><br><br><br>
But yeah, this is interesting. Definitely a good background for whatever story you come up with. Keep us posted!
 

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Yah! I think I'll post it if it keeps to a short story. I've been aspiring to become a professional novelist, and decided after all my learning that I must be able to pull off good short stories if I want to be able to grab the attention of readers.
 

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idea: spell vegatarians, vegetarians. It will increase your chances of publication about 200%.<br><br><br><br>
/hug<br><br><br><br><br><br>
and good luck <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Make them require hummus instead of blood and I think it would be a winner!<br><br><br><br>
Just imagine... veg'pires stalking the isles at WholeFoods, grabbing pints of hummus out of peoples carts and sucking them dry.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
Bwah! Bwah! Bwah!<br><br><br><br>
/transform.into.doves.and.rainbows.and.fly.away.
 

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Would a box of Raisin Bran act like a cross, and cream of wheat would be like holy water?<br><br><br><br>
I'm not trying to be glib, I'm just trying to understand the dynamics of a vegetarian vampire so that I might better offer advice for your story and perhaps protect myself in case of an attack. Thanks.
 

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Rockin idea, hpdvs2! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rockon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rockon:"><br><br>
I've always said that vampires should be non-meat eaters. In addition to the scientific reasoning you've given, think of the ecological rationale:<br><br><br><br>
When an animal moves up the food chain, it typically forsakes the rung below. For example, a hawk will eat a robin (who eats worms), but the hawk will refuse to eat worms herself. This is because the hawk has moved up in the world.<br><br><br><br>
So now imagine a vampire species is the next step up from human. Logically the vampire won't touch anything like steak or pork rinds, because that stuff will be repugnant to him/her.<br><br><br><br>
Keep us posted on developments!<br><br><br><br>
And yeah, I like the idea of hummus & raisin bran in the story. I'm not sure why.
 

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Vampire stories are not my thing. I do like the idea of a veg*n story.<br><br>
I've wondered if vampire stories came from anemia related problems. Espeically before they knew about vitamins and someone was getting dealthy pale from mysterious sources.
 

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Um, wouldn't drinking blood make them, by definition, not vegetarians? Or do their victims not die? Or does their unstoppable bloodlust cause some sort of self hatred/disgust thereby adding to the drama of the story? Oh, and what will these vampires do with their powers? Will they use them for good? If so, then you can play the whole internal conflict of helping people by hurting people.<br><br>
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No, the point is they can eat cream of wheat and spinach or other iron-rich sources instead of drinking blood!
 

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Vegepires are allowed to drink blood and consume blood products that are obtained without killing the human.<br><br><br><br>
Vegampires avoid all blood and blood-derived products. They drink soyblood.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Medesha</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
No, the point is they can eat cream of wheat and spinach or other iron-rich sources instead of drinking blood!</div>
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I <i>vont</i> to <i>suck</i> your creeeam ov <i>vheat</i> mwah, ha, ha, ha!<br><br><br><br>
Serioulsy. What would the story be about? You've got a concept. Great. But how do you turn this into an interesting story? What is the plot? Is there an inciting incident? What is the conflict? How is the conflict resolved? Etc.
 

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I see it as an allegory, in which case plot & conflict aren't necessary. Sure, it's nice to throw it in, but the main idea could be the introduction of this new type of evolution. The Arthur C. Clarke novels (<i>2001, 2010, 2061, 3001</i>) are a lot like that. Sure we have the side plot of HAL going nutso, but that's not the focus of the book. They're allegories of human evolution.<br><br><br><br>
I dunno, maybe we ought to hear from the author on the matter. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thinking.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":think:">
 

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Yah! I think I'll post it if it keeps to a short story. I've been aspiring to become a professional novelist, and decided after all my learning that I must be able to pull off good short stories if I want to be able to grab the attention of readers.</div>
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No, It is not a comedy, it is intended to be serious. Most of the vampires in my story are not vegatarian, just the lead, Sarah.
 

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Would a box of Raisin Bran act like a cross, and cream of wheat would be like holy water?<br><br><br><br>
I'm not trying to be glib, I'm just trying to understand the dynamics of a vegetarian vampire so that I might better offer advice for your story and perhaps protect myself in case of an attack. Thanks.</div>
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Actually Raisin bran is a vital ingredient for the vampires <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/chef.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":chef:"> in my book, but apposing your thought, it actually strenghens them. The idea is that there power destroys the Iron in their blood. Which happens naturally to them. If they dive into their main powers, the process that they destroy their iron, actually destroys the surounding blood as well. As a natural reflex, they loose natural control, and "vamp" people <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hungry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hungry:"><br><br><br><br>
Our vampires don't wish to kill people, of course depending on who they vamp, they might turn into more vampires which of course causes chaos while trying to maintain their secret society.
 

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Vampire stories are not my thing. I do like the idea of a veg*n story.<br><br>
I've wondered if vampire stories came from anemia related problems. Espeically before they knew about vitamins and someone was getting dealthy pale from mysterious sources.</div>
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Actually, from my research on this project, I've come across several diseases (I cannot for the life of me recall their names) 1 disease actually makes people crave blood, like an addiction. Another makes people highly sensative to sunlight, it can burn them severily in short periods of time. Of course adrenaline rushes could cause heighted strength in times of need, and there are other diseases and drugs that can expand on this further. Porphyria is a disease that makes it reasonable to injest blood to survive.<br><br><br><br>
Without more modern medical handling, such things could add up.
 

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Um, wouldn't drinking blood make them, by definition, not vegetarians? Or do their victims not die? Or does their unstoppable bloodlust cause some sort of self hatred/disgust thereby adding to the drama of the story? Oh, and what will these vampires do with their powers? Will they use them for good? If so, then you can play the whole internal conflict of helping people by hurting people.<br><br>
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In my story, they only have the uncontrollable blood thirst when their own blood disipates, or their iron levels get to low. Though some vampires don't really care as much, most of them have a certain level of concern for living things.<br><br><br><br>
It just so happens that she was vegatarian going in, and was pleased she didn't have to change. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rockon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rockon:">
 

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Vegepires are allowed to drink blood and consume blood products that are obtained without killing the human.<br><br><br><br>
Vegampires avoid all blood and blood-derived products. They drink soyblood.</div>
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<br><br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:"> Funniest thing I've read all day.<br><br><br><br>
I figured this thread was a way to brainstorm the setting of the story and pinpoint any obvious flaws or weaknesses. World-building is tough.
 

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I <i>vont</i> to <i>suck</i> your creeeam ov <i>vheat</i> mwah, ha, ha, ha!<br><br><br><br>
Serioulsy. What would the story be about? You've got a concept. Great. But how do you turn this into an interesting story? What is the plot? Is there an inciting incident? What is the conflict? How is the conflict resolved? Etc.</div>
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Good question. I guess it would be good to clarify that the Vegetarian aspect is only and aspect, and not overwhelming the story, or her actions. It just so happens she can survives without meat/blood as a vampire. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/angel.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":angel:"><br><br><br><br>
In response to the Plot, So far, it is the journey she goes through, in discovering what happened, keeping it hidden, learning to control herself, and eventually learning to utilize her powers to help her survive.<br><br><br><br>
After a learning introduction, she is quickly passed through the world around her until she finds herself mixed in a bad crowd. It is intended to be a short story, <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/book2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":book:"> which I am using for practice. I don't have an end for it yet, but I have a good mid point. whch happens about a hundred years after she turns.
 
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