Veganism is bad for the environment?

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Coto16

Discussion Starter · Aug 29, 2016

So someone on a forum told me this about veganism and the environment:

Him: "Animals take Oxygen and breathe out Carbon Dioxide which Humans can't use.
Plants take Carbon Dioxide and breathe out Oxygen which Humans can use.

By eating plants you are killing off our supply of Oxygen and causing an increased level of Carbon Dioxide production.

Vegans are destroying our planet"

Me: "Vegetarians use less resources like water, food, oil, contribute less CO2 to the atmosphere, and animals are not killed for their consumption.

Raising livestock contribute more to global warming than automobiles, and is the second leading cause of global warming behind industrial pollution.

Being a vegan for 1 year;
How many animals a vegan saves: 200~
How many lbs of meat a vegan didn't eat: 200~
Lbs of CO2 not released into the atmosphere: 1,609~

Also, we usually don't eat trees. Your claim is literally nonsense.."

Him: "How much oxygen is produced by a single leaf in an hour : 5mL == 120mL a day == 43.8L of oxygen a year from a single leaf. Humans requires about 50L of Oxygen an hour to survive. ( source =https://io9.gizmodo.com/5955071/how-many-plants-would-you-need-to-generate-oxygen-for-yourself-in-an-airlock ).

Every time you rip a leaf off a plant you're effectively making someone's life over the course of a year 1 hour shorter. How do you feel about this?"

Me: [Insert what I should say here

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kellyon

· #21 · Mar 7, 2017

lol It must be bad joke...maybe sarcasm or something?
Actually, raising animals for food produces more greenhouse gas emissions than all of the cars and other forms of transportation combined. I read that in the United States, for example, 70% of the grain grown is fed to farmed animals. As for me, I'm sure that the simplest and cheapest way to reduce the human impact on the environment is to stop eat meat. Unfortunately, environmental pollution is a huge problem. There are so many things around that can a serious diseases: toxic chemicals, nuclear materials, devices that emit ultraviolet and other types of radiation, gas emmissions. I even ordered Handheld detection to detect and localize radioactive materials and radiation level in my area. I think we should pay more attention to the environment protection.

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BlueMts

· #22 · Mar 8, 2017

I didn't read all of this so this might have been said before

Humans use oxygen and breathe out carbon dioxide so do the people have to die too?

Farming masses of animals pumps masses of CO2 into the atmosphere.

Plants make oxygen in the day time but they produce carbon CO2 at night.

A lot of people are just idiots. Ignore them.

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Ger Jonker

· #23 · Mar 30, 2017

If you care about the planet, then I think being vegan is perhaps the best thing that you can do to help save it.

Check out: www.cowspiracy.com

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Ger Jonker

· #24 · Mar 30, 2017

BlueMts said:
Farming masses of animals pumps masses of CO2 into the atmosphere.

Regenerative organic farming may be a practical solution to sequestering all those harmful CO2 emissions.

Check out: http://bit.ly/1LwstBD

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BlueMts

· #25 · Mar 31, 2017

Ger Jonker said:
Regenerative organic farming may be a practical solution to sequestering all those harmful CO2 emissions.

Check out: http://bit.ly/1LwstBD

I hope you don't think I am pro-farming animals. I'm not.I despise it. I was making the point that humans use up the oxygen and pump CO2 into the atmosphere and we don't think people have to die horrible deaths because of that but we farm animals who do the same thing and they have horrible lives and deaths.

It was in response to the "veganism is bad for the atmosphere" claim which is what is stupid. Eating cultivated plants is much less damaging than farming masses of animals - so the non vegans are the ones damaging the atmosphere.

I don't call myself a vegan because I have meds that use lactose as filler. Everything else is animal product free. I don't take capsuals unless they are veg.

If everyone stopped using dairy then the pharmaceutical companies would have to find something less evil to mix into their products.

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Jamie in Chile

· #26 · Mar 31, 2017

It's amazing how strict some people are about what constitutes veganism, sounds like you are a vegan to me.

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BlueMts

· #27 · Apr 1, 2017

I hate cruelty to any animal but I have a real loathing for the dairy industry so it really (insert word we are not allowed to use here) me off that so may medications have lactose in them.

How dare advertisers talk about "happy" cows and supporting Australian dairy farming families. Why does anyone support sadistic killers. I am so glad their farms are doing so poorly here.

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Ger Jonker

· #28 · Apr 3, 2017 (Edited)

BlueMts said:
I hope you don't think I am pro-farming animals. I'm not.I despise it.

I just meant that it's a good idea to plant organic crops and/or trees where land is now being used as pasture or as a place to grow food for livestock. At present, too much land is being used up for these purposes.

If you can, check out: www.cowspiracy.com

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Dunestrider

· #29 · Apr 20, 2022

Don't kid yourself by thinking veganism is good for the environment. Veganism is less harmful to the environment than a non-vegan diet. But it's not good for the environment.

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