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hai!!<br><br><br><br><br><br>
I didn't feel like searching... ummm.....<br><br><br><br>
I was just wondering if they produce a vegan formulated starburst in the UK or AU similar to skittles?????<br><br><br><br>
And if so, how much to ship me a pack? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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Also, I'm pretty sure the starburst jellybeans are vegan. Or are you trying to seduce a special lady by showing her you can remove a starburst wrapper with just your tongue?
 

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I'm confused...here starburst and skittles are two entirely different types of sweets <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:">. I'm pretty sure skittles are vegan and I've heard starburst are but I haven't checked.<br><br>
So you are looking for starburst, the square chewy fruit things in long cuboid packages, correct?<br><br>
If you are interested still PM me, I could probably send you some.
 

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I have a bag of Starburst jelly beans that I am looking at right now and the last ingredient says confectionary glaze...isnt that just the same as confectioners glaze/carmine, which isnt vegan? Lots of people/sites mention them as being vegan, yet if that ingredient is what I think it is, its not vegan..right?
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>isowish</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I'm confused...here starburst and skittles are two entirely different types of sweets <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:">. I'm pretty sure skittles are vegan and I've heard starburst are but I haven't checked.<br><br>
So you are looking for starburst, the square chewy fruit things in long cuboid packages, correct?<br><br>
If you are interested still PM me, I could probably send you some.</div>
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Starbursts and skittles are different kinds of candy in the US as well. Both contain gelatin here and so neither are vegetarian, let alone vegan. I guess in the UK they don't have it... Strange.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>xNewNoisex</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I would think they have refined sugar in them, which makes them not vegan.</div>
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Not all sugar is refined with bone char, so there is vegan refined sugar.
 

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Gosh, I used to really, really, really, enjoy Starbursts. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/drool.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":drool:"><br><br><br><br>
I'd sure go for a vegan one now.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Waikikamukau</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><br>
Not all sugar is refined with bone char, so there is vegan refined sugar.</div>
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This is true, but is it really possible to determine what isn't filtered with bone char, and what isnt, other than questioning every company about their products? I choose rather to avoid all refined sugar, not only to make sure I'm not eating something that was refined with bone char, but it makes my diet much healthier overall.
 

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xNewNoisex --<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Bone char is used to remove fluoride from water and to filter aquarium water.<br><br><br></div>
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Some water can be filtered with bone char as well. So avoiding bone char is pretty near impossible.<br><br><br><br>
It doesn't get any in the product(except maybe micro amounts), And it doesn't give money to the industry (so I have read). It's more about some vegans not wanting to risk having even micro amounts of animal products in their bodies if they can avoid it. It is 100% vegan unless you're a purest.<br><br><br><br>
Though, More power too you avoiding all the processed crap! I'm with you, I avoid refined sugars unless i'm in a situation where it's unavoidable. (Alabama, Not veg-friendly <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/no.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":no:">).
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Shamandura</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I have a bag of Starburst jelly beans that I am looking at right now and the last ingredient says confectionary glaze...isnt that just the same as <b>confectioners glaze/carmine</b>, which isnt vegan? Lots of people/sites mention them as being vegan, yet if that ingredient is what I think it is, its not vegan..right?</div>
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huh? confectiioners glaze has carmine in it???<br><br>
its just sugar and water, no??
 

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Shellac is actually what I meant to call it, pretty much the same thing(insect wise). Carmine I believe is used for coloring though. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confectioner%27s_glaze" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confectioner%27s_glaze</a><br><br><br><br>
I'm not sure of any other kind of confectioners glaze; at least I havent seen anything other than this and similar descriptions.
 

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These are two different things, and would need to be clarified to make sure you know whattado. Confectioner's glaze which you will normally see on a bundt cake or the like is confectioner's sugar, water, vanilla/flavouring, and possible some corn syrup.<br><br><br><br>
The confectioner's glaze link above, is actually to what they call Pharmaceutical glaze (which is sometimes referred to as confectioner's glaze), but this is not a glaze like the one for cakes.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">This is used by the drug and nutritional supplement industry as a coating material for tablets and capsules. It serves to improve the products appearance, extend shelf life and protect it from moisture, as well as provide a solid finishing film for preprint coatings. It also serves to mask unpleasant odors and aid in the swallowing of the tablet.</div>
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I'm pretty sure this stuff is only really used in medications and the such. Definitely not a *standard* in any food
 

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So your saying it is ok to eat starburst jelly beans? I hope so because I have a bag laying there, taunting me.<br><br>
I keep getting confused on the replies about confectioners glaze, carmine, and shellac...I don't know the exact difference or how they are used!<br><br><br><br>
I do know when I used to be into decorative cake making; confectioners glaze was a sugar mixture. I just thought there are two different kinds.
 

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<b>quoted for link:</b>"Confectioner's glaze, food glaze, resinous glaze, and pharmaceutical glaze are pretty names for shellac, the excretion of a certain type of beetle. While perhaps that's not so very different from honey, the difference is that shellac is harvested beetles-and-all. (Yum!)<br><br>
(Confusing the issue is that a corn protein, zein, may also be labeled as "Confectioner's glaze." While I've seen a great many companies that make and use shellac-based confectioner's glaze, I have yet to see any that use a zein base. If you know of any examples of zein-based confectioner's glaze, please leave it as a comment!)"<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/EatBugs2" target="_blank">http://www.evilmadscientist.com/article.php/EatBugs2</a><br><br><br><br>
I don't know how reliable that site is, but I originally found that link here on VB a couple months ago. Since then I avoided everything mentioned.
 

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I was reading on a site (can't remember the link, sorry) that neither American nor UK skittles or starburst were vegan. The US version has geletin and the UK version has shallac.
 

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<div class="quote-block">According to Wikipedia:<br><br>
"Starburst is the brand name of a chewy, cuboid-shaped, fruit-flavored candy manufactured by Mars, Incorporated. Starburst also exist as jellybeans (known as Joosters), lollipops, gummies, hard candy, candy canes, and lip gloss (the latter in a partnership with Lip Smackers). Berries and cream were also a fruit added to the bunch.<br><br><br><br>
Starburst were introduced by <b>Mars</b> in 1960[1] as Opal Fruits. The four original flavors were strawberry, lemon, orange, and lime."</div>
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<div class="quote-block">Mars' Heartless Animal Experiments<br><br><br><br>
Not one of Mars' experiments on animals is required by law. Even so, Mars has paid experimenters to kill untold numbers of animals in tests:<br><br><br><br>
* Mars recently funded an experiment on rats at the University of California, San Francisco, to determine the effect of chocolate ingredients on the animals' blood vessels, even though the experimenter admitted that studies have already been done using humans. Experimenters force-fed the rats by shoving plastic tubes down their throats and then cut open the rats' legs to expose an artery, which was clamped shut to block blood flow. After the experiment, the animals were killed.<br><br><br><br>
* Mars funded a deadly experiment on mice that was published in a 2007 issue of the Journal of Neuroscience in which mice were fed flavanols (phytochemicals that are found in chocolate) and forced to swim in a pool of water mixed with white paint to hide a submerged platform, which the mice had to find in order to avoid drowning, only to be killed and dissected later on.<br><br><br><br>
* In one experiment supported by Mars and conducted by the current Mars, Inc., endowed chair in developmental nutrition at the University of California, Davis, rats were fed cocoa and anesthesized with carbon dioxide so that blood could be collected by a needle injected directly into the heart—a procedure criticized by U.S. Department of Agriculture researcher Dr. William T. Golde, who notes: “This is not a simple method. … Missing the heart or passing the needle completely through the heart could lead to undetected internal bleeding or other complications.”<br><br><br><br>
* Mars supported a cruel experiment to learn how a chocolate ingredient called PQQ affects metabolism by cramming baby mice into 200-milliliter Plexiglas metabolic chambers—around half the size of a 12-ounce soda can—and then submerging the chamber for nearly five hours in a chilled water bath, inducing labored breathing in the distressed mice. Experimenters then shoved tubes down the mice’s throats every day for 10 days to force-feed them the PQQ, after which they were killed and cut up for analysis.<br><br><br><br>
* Mars funded a test in which experimenters forced rabbits to eat a high-cholesterol diet with varying amounts of cocoa, then cut out and examined tissue from the rabbits' primary blood vessel to the heart to determine the effect of cocoa on rabbits’ muscle tissue.<br><br><br><br>
* Mars supported a test in which experimenters attached plastic tubes to arteries in guinea pigs' necks and injected cocoa ingredients into their jugular veins to examine the effect of cocoa ingredients on their blood pressure.</div>
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