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I went to Trader Joe's today to get my monthly supply of Earth Balance buttery spread. And lo and behold right next to the EB was Earth Balance Vegan Shortening. I am so happy to find this. Tommorrow I make Pie.
 

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It's so nice to see that five letter word on products, whenever I see it, I feel relieved for not having to read through the entire ingredients list. It's sort of like a blessing. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Tommorrow I make Pie.</div>
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Maybe the next day you'll make an avatar. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
We don't have Trader Joe's around here. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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Damn VeggieMonster...that new pic of you is <span style="color:#FF0000;">HOT</span> ..<br><br><br><br>
Opps sorry...went off topic there. Whew, what was the topic????
 

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I don't know how to make an avatar, didn't even know what an avatar was for a long time. But I do know how to make pie.
 

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I've never been able EB shortening.. just Spectrum brand - despite how digusting their spreads & margarine tends to be, it's pretty good; it works in baking and frying just fine. The first time i used it was to make the almond tart recipe in one of the peta cookbooks - very, very good!<br><br>
Heck, i'd be giddy enough to find a non-P&G shortening as is, but to find one that not only that, but non-hydrogenated, organic, and 100% vegan to top it all off?? That makes for a very happy Obsidian Zebra <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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interesting!<br><br><br><br>
i've been using EB spread to bake and make pastries for almost a year now, and it's never given me any problems. why is there a need for a "shortening" version?
 

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awww, good going.. you made me turn all red and stuff... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by MsRuthieB</i><br><br><b>Damn VeggieMonster...that new pic of you is <span style="color:#FF0000;">HOT</span> ..<br><br><br><br>
Opps sorry...went off topic there. Whew, what was the topic????</b></div>
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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Kreeli</i><br><br><b>interesting!<br><br><br><br>
i've been using EB spread to bake and make pastries for almost a year now, and it's never given me any problems. why is there a need for a "shortening" version?</b></div>
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Bc EB tastes so good you'll eat the whole thing on popcorn, toast, etc, before you ever even make your pie!<br><br>
(that's what happens to me.)
 

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Michael:<br><br><br><br>
How do I send a picture to you?<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
I use Earth Balance for cookies and the like but somehow pie crust is just not the same as it use to be with Crisco.
 

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Yay! I get my Earth Balance from Trader Joe's too....I hope they've got the shortening.<br><br><br><br>
I want to send a picture to you too Michael...but I don't know how either, I suck horribly at computer stuff...especially the really simple easy stuff. LOL.<br><br><br><br>
and yeah....I concur with Ms Ruthie B....wow! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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Yikes Mushroom! I pay $1.99 for it at Trader Joe's (just discovered they have it) I was paying $2.79 at my healthfood store. I usually buy 2 tubs a month. I think the EB shortening must be new. They didn't have it last month and the healthfood store doesn't have it. It was $2.25 and comes in a pkg. four 1/2 cup sticks.
 

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what is the difference between "shortening," oil, and fat?<br><br><br><br>
Answer: nothing. Shortening is a fat that you use, as an ingredient in a pastry, to make it light or flakey. So whether something is a "shortening" or not depends on how you use it, not on what it is. It is therefore absurd to label a fat or oil as being "shortening." What makes sense is to label a fat or oil as "can be used as shortening." Labeling a fat or oil as, simply, "shortening" is like labeling water as "washing fluid" instead of labeling it water. It is a way to get you to pay extra for water.<br><br><br><br>
Or, depending on its use, and how you want to price it and market it, label the same water as being either "swimming pool filler" or "animal rehydration fluid," or "plant rehydration fluid," or "eyewash" or "type B fish environment" or "essence of rain" or "multipurpose solvent" or "latex paint solvent" or "furniture-wax testing fluid" or "bathtub filler" or "shower fluid" or "weapons-grade drowning fluid."<br><br><br><br>
"It's so nice to see that 5-letter word... whenever I see it I feel relieved for not having to read through the entire ingredients list."<br><br><br><br>
Start reading ingredient lists again. How do you know the product is properly labelled if it says "vegan." If this company is tricky enough to call oil "shortening" instead of just whatever kind of oil it is, labeling it by its use rather than its substance, it may be tricky enough to decide that anything that they once saw a "vegan" use, as being vegan, even if it has animal products in it. Hey, if Joanne Stepaniak feeds meat to her cats, and Joanne Stepaniak is a vegan, meat must be vegan, right?
 

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The thing is, products are never "vegan" or "non-vegan." When we say one is, we don't really mean it is vegan. We area using an abbreviation for "it is acceptable for use by vegans." We don't really mean it is vegan. Only people can be vegan. Once we start down the slippery slope of calling products vegan, and then confusing the abbreviation with the fact, it becomes easy to start misleading people.<br><br><br><br>
I suggest that you read the ing label, and use <b>your own judgement</b> as to whether a prudct is suitable for you, in particular, and not rely on someone who is trying to sell you something, to determine what is right for you.
 

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Shortening is a form of oil that is hard enough to make a flaky pastry. If you use liquid oil to make a pie crust you must first chill it unil it is very very cold and the it does not make nearly as nice a crust as solid shortening. Earth Balance uses non GMO, non-hydrogenated expeller pressed oils to make their shortening and their buttery spread. It does say 100% vegan on the label but it also lists the oils that it is made of. I am grateful to companies that provide vegan products. Just because I like the fact that it says Vegan on the label does not mean that I don't read the whole package.
 

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As for the slippery slope thing...I never really felt like I was a true vegetarian until I gave up ALL animal products, including dairy, as cheese is certainly not a vegetable.<br><br><br><br>
Yet, as it, I actually appreciate seeing the word vegan on a product. It makes it much easier, when shopping with tots. I have never found a product with vegan written on it, that later turned out not to be vegan.<br><br><br><br>
Anyway, we use a lot of the EB, so I am going to hunt for a better price...and I am going to look for the shortening, also. Thanks, yarn.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by MsRuthieB</i><br><br><b>Damn VeggieMonster...that new pic of you is <span style="color:#FF0000;">HOT</span> ..</b></div>
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hehe yeah i agree <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/love.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":love:"><br><br><br><br>
anywho, i can't find EB around here. i think i spotted it at the only decent health food store, but it's quite a long walk from here, and everything's overpriced. i can see how shortening makes better crust, but EB is already quite hard, i find it really hard to spread as is, so wouldn't it do the trick?
 
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