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I am curious, what do you feel is the better thing to do? (which would help the most animals, fuel the movement, etc..)<br>
Buy vegan products from a non vegan company in hopes of creating the demand for them to change?<br>
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Buying strictly from vegan companies?<br><br>
I'm talking more about beauty products, home care, cosmetics- not food. I happened to see Neutrogena came out with a line of "Naturals" facial care products that are all cruelty-free. But Neutrogena is not a cruelty free company. I was curious is it would be more beneficial to support their shift in thinking and purchase these products instead of the ones I buy from the vegan company. When faced with a choice like this I would like to make the decision that helps the movement the most.
 

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I tend to buy from BUAV (leaping bunny) they tell you if the parent company is not CF...(ie Body shop is CF..owned by Loreal which is not)<br>
Then that would put me off.<br>
If there was no other option but to buy from a company that wasnt CF further up the chain, but still sold CF products...I would do that.
 

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Personally I support vegan products, not vegan companies. Support the product and the company will come around if the buying power is there.
 

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Personally I support vegan products, not vegan companies. Support the product and the company will come around if the buying power is there.</div>
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This is the way I think about it. If a non vegan company can't make money selling vegan items they lose the incentive to sell and come up with more vegan items.
 

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i avoid buying from companies that test on animals even if some of the actual products were not tested on animals.<br><br>
this brings up the whole Silk/Dean Foods issue again. I don't buy Silk products bc Dean Foods is one of the largest factory farms in the US, and i in no way want any of my $ to go towards Dean Foods. Sure buying Silk sends the message that there is demand for vegan products, however it doesn't send the message that we are unhappy with the factory farming practices of Dean Foods. I am more concerned with saving animals then creating demand for vegan products.
 

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The more vegan items available, the more mainstream veganism becomes. The more mainstream veganism becomes, the more people are willing to give it a try. When more people become vegan, the demand for non vegan items decreases, the demand for vegan items increases and more animals are saved.
 

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For makeup and self care products, I never buy from non vegan companies. I've found companies that sell exactly what I need and always get the same things. Food I will buy from the company that makes a product I like, though mostly because I haven't done much research into whether their owned by a non-veg company. (Like Yves or Boca...no idea)
 

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I try to support independent people who make things as much as possible which is why I adore iviscents and that Pumpkin and Poppy makeup or whatever it's called. If there is no other choice - I just try to do the best I can when choosing. I'd rather the big business go away and give rise to smaller companies, so rather then them changing - putting them out of business sounds better to me. Just my opinion, but I get the argument for all sides here.
 
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