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If you are a veg*n mother did you breastfeed and for how long? Did you also follow natural parenting? -co-sleeping, breastfeeding on cue, child led weaning, no artificial milks, no bottles or pacifiers, used a sling, no spanking but gentle parenting etc.
 

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i followed some tenents of the "natural" parenting (aka "attachment parenting") philosophy, but not all. i breastfed on cue (and both were exclusively breastfed for the first six - eight months) with both my children past 1 year of age (my son self-weaned at 14 month; my daughter started to self-wean around the same time but i think i encouraged her quite a lot, too). we co-slept with both until they were consistently sleeping through the night (at 10-12 months). we used a sling. we do not spank.<br><br><br><br>
things we did that would make dr. sears cringe: used pacifiers (after 8 weeks of age, to prevent nipple confusion), used soy formula sometimes (only once they started eating solids, consistently), used bouncy seats/exersaucers. i'm sure we did other stuff that would go against AP philosophy, but i never felt guilty about it. i think parents have to find what works for them and stick to it; not some pre-determined set of ideas that are intended to make us all cookie-cutter parents and children.
 

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I'm not vegan but I'm veggie! I have two daughters. Fiona nursed until she was 15 months and Lily is still nursing (she's 13 months.) We co-sleep with both. Use/used a sling with both. We don't spank. Neither of my girls ever had formula but I do work full time outside of our home so I pumped a lot of breastmilk and both have had breastmilk in a bottle.<br><br><br><br>
We aren't totally AP, just doing what works for our family. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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My son Sebastian just turned three and my husband and I practiced attachment parenting ( though not completely). I nursed exclusivly for 2 1/2 yrs, no formulas. We have a family bed. We don't spank (although I'll admit to yelling on occasion). I used a sling when Sebastian wasn't so darn heavy! We are vegans and I plan on homeschooling. I'm also a full time mom. If anyone wants to know some good books on natural parenting check out "Natural Family Living" put out by Mothering magazine, "Compassionite Souls" by JoAnn Farb and "Super Baby Foods" by Ruth Yaron. This last book is just useful all around -she has so many good ideas. Has anyone read "Raising Vegan Children in a Non-Vegan World" by Erin Pavlina? I'd like to get this book as soon as I have some extra money.
 

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For the record, there is no definition to "natural" parenting. Natural parenting is simply doing what works best for a family. Np matter what some claim, parenting has always varied greatly culture from culture.
 

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here is an interesting essay that i enjoyed reading, from a mother feeling disillusioned by the whole NP/AP experience.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.brainchildmag.com/essays/spring2003_eller.htm" target="_blank">http://www.brainchildmag.com/essays/...2003_eller.htm</a>
 

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Wow, Punkmommy, I could of wrote your entire post!!<br><br>
I have one daughter and I have practiced AP almost 100% with her. I didn't knowingly follow the AP guidlines, I didn't even know what it was until a few months ago. I just did what I thought was right.<br><br>
I am still nursing my little munchkin, she is 2 1/2 years old. She nurses approx. 2-4 times a day, she still nurses to sleep at night some nights. (I've never given her formula)<br><br>
I used a sling and and then transfered to a backpack when she got too heavy to go on my front. I did not use pacifiers mostly because she wouldn't take one and I don't really believe their very healthy but that's just my opinion.<br><br>
I still co-sleep with my honey and have been since she was born. I don't spank and try not to yell and basically I just try to be the best mommy I know how, I don't follow guidlines in a book, I use my own motherly instincts and they've been successful so far.
 

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Kreeli - thanks for that link.<br><br><br><br>
I asked my mom if she practiced natural parenting. She says she did. She smacked us on th butt when we were bad, fed us when we were hungry, changed diapers when needed (all potty-training at age 18 months), and put us to bed every night. Seemed pretty natural to her.
 

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Kreeli--thanks for posting the link. I have read most of the books in the Sears parenting series, and while I'm not diametrically opposed to attachment parenting, I'm not an AP fan for many of the reasons Cynthia Eller discusses in her essay.
 

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I breadfed all 4 of my children..the first for 3 yrs, the second for 4 years, and the last two till they were six..Now, don't get upset..a six year old takes one suck twice a week. I nursed on "request", we did attachment partenting and co-sleeping...they slept with me until they started school, then gradually joined a sibling in bed. I did not leave my children until they were school age, and then only when they wer ready. None of my children ever had bottles and only the first one had a pacifer. I carried my children is slings so long, they grew into them..lol..I practiced "gentle parenting" to the best of my ability. My kids have turned out great. The oldest, a girl , is now 23 and a mental health case worker..the oldest boy is 19 and in college and does home health care with mentally chanllenged children and makes a good living and is good at it. The other two, 16 and 13 are both still in school and active in sport and church. Hurrah for attachment parenting..I think it turns out great kids. we did some home schooling too..I was active in La Leche League and a leader for some 5 years...
 

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I hate the labelling!!! - natural parenting, attachment parenting etc people get too picky on who is this or that!<br><br><br><br>
I believe in doing what is right for your situation etc. There are many different ways to parent in different cultures but I DO believe that all mothers have certain instincts and that most, if not all do generally listen to their instincts. It is sad when I see mothers being pressured into doing something else by other people when their instincts are telling them to do something else!<br><br><br><br>
I gave birth at home naturally with no drugs or intervention, no needles or vaccinations, lotus birth (did not cut the cord until baby was ready to let go of it - my daughter pulled her cord off after 4 days without a fuss), co-sleep with my husband and 3 month old daughter, have never bought a pram, bottle, pump, pacifier etc. I own a Maya wrap and use it all the time, I am always holding my daughter or her dad is holding her. I intend to breastfeed until she does not want it anymore and *shock* I ALWAYS comfort or go to her as soon as she cries. Oh yeah we're probably going to unschool too instead of send our kids to a conventional school.<br><br><br><br>
I suppose that would make me one of those "strict" AP sorts, and I've got a lot of criticism from others saying that I will have a clingy child etc. I am only doing what I feel is right for me and my family and I respect how other people decide to do it.<br><br><br><br>
While I am very respectful of other parents choices - I know that they're doing what they feel is right for them, well I am also doing the same, so it bothers me when I get all this flak from them! I don't give them crap and I expect the same in return... one of those day's I'm just going to explode!<br><br><br><br>
I'm not abusing or putting my child in danger, so what's the deal with others butting in with their opinated comments about how we are doing the wrong thing!?<br><br><br><br>
Each to their own!
 

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I know what you mean Quickening. I know that when "older" members of my family know that my son shares the bed with my husband and I they treat me like a child myself, telling me what I should and shouln't be doing. Some people also think it's some form of child abuse that we raise our son vegan. People would tell me when I nursed to "cover up" or go in the other room, or strangers would look in disgust. I'm not a passive person and will tell someone what I think and if they don't like how I'm raising my son they can stick it up their ***! I makes me very mad that people have the nerve to tell me how ho be a mother. I think I'm one of the best mommies I know!
 

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Wow, what great responses <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> I was hoping there were some other parents here like me! I am a huge advocate of gentle and natural parenting. Natural parenting *to me* means avoiding the artificial and embrassing the natural, i.e. no bottles, no artificial milk, no pacifiers, no swings, no cages(cribs), no bouncy seats, no strollers; but instead natural childbirth, breastfeeding on cue, natural weaning, co-sleeping, no spanking, respecting the child as a person not as property. Well i could go on and on but i think you get the picture <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
BTW, i totally agree about disliking labels. To me 'veganism' and 'Attachment Parenting' are indead labels and not everyone likes to be 'labeled' but *I* try to view these two labels as *ideals*, something to strive for without feeling guilty if i can't or choose not to be perfect at AP or veganism ....does that make sense?<br><br>
I believe that every family is different and what works for one family might not work for another. We as mothers should support eachother not judge one another for doing things differently.<br><br>
I think it's so funny when moms who do not do AP get so defensive and just have to start bad mouthing AP or try to portray AP parents as unrealistic ..i guess there are so many parallels between veg*nism and being an AP parent; both are considered radical.
 

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I'm not vegan (yet) but veggie. With my son(he's 9mths.) I'm still breast feeding and I pump so when I'm not home or around my husband can feed him as well. We did use a baby sling but I found this contraption called a rebozzo that we like to use better and you can use it for very large babies which we found to be conveinent since our little one is huge. We never gave our son a pacifier but I can tell you that many attemps have been tried by both Grandmas but he never has taken to them b/c he's a thumb sucker. He came right out of me sucking that thumb. We did co-sleep in the begining for about three weeks and then he came down with SVT and he spent several weeks in Childrens Hospital and by the time he came home he was used to sleeping by himself. But we are lucky b/c the layout of our house we we have a conjoined room which seems to be helpful. We did use a bouncy seat and loved it, the walker he didn't really get used to but he loved the jolly jump and our hammock. And we practice gentle parenting even though all of his granparent and aunt and uncles say that we are spoiling him and that we are going to regret it in the future (oh well).<br><br><br><br>
But I have to say what we are doing my not be exaclty AP,but it seems to work for us. you just need to follow your intuition and do what works for you.
 

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I am vegan. I breastfed all three(including during pregnancy), my youngest weaned herself at 3. I had a homebirth attempt with the first and had serious complications resulting in emergency transport and negated future homebirths for me(though all were completely natural). They all had pacifiers. We still co-sleep...and it is getting tight...LOL No bottles here and we strive for gentle discipline(not always achieve it though) We used cloth diapers. I used a sling for the last two...didn't even know about them for the first(clueless I think) And we homeschool, which I love. I don't know if that makes me natural parenting...my DH calls me crunchy, but it is me regardless!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I would say yes and then some ..lol <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I have followed my instincts with both my girls, i think not having any family around from either side sort of forced me into it. I did alot of reading then just did what felt right. Without out anyone suggesting what i should do i never realised what i was doing was so different from the norm until i joined a local playgroup.<br><br><br><br>
I Co slept with my 16 month old until Madeline was born and now i cosleep with her. Julie made th etransition into a cot without any fuss our bed isn't quite big enough for all of us even though we all squish in sometimes. I use a sling with both and Breastfeed both Madeline is still feeding as she is only 4 months. I was hoping to feed both but julie self weaned at around 10 months much to my disapointment.
 

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I haven't read much on natural parenting (or any other type of parenting, for that matter), as I'm only 14 and the idea of having children terrifies me. But I am curious... does Dr. Sears mention what you're supposed to do about the sling if you have twins?<br><br><br><br>
I've seen all sorts of parenting from what would most likely be called natural parenting, to my own childhood - breast milk free, spankings all over, raised almost entirely by a constantly changing staff of nannies and maids - and everything in between. It seems to me that it's more important that however a child's raised, they know that their parents love them and are just trying to do the best they can.<br><br><br><br>
Not that I have a real clue what I'm talking about.
 

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Hi everybody! I'm a nearly vegan (occasional lapses due to extreme hunger when not at home and being unprepared) and have been vegetarian for a long time. I'm co-sleeping with my third child (and my husband <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"> ) right now - he just turned two. He's still breastfeeding whenever he wants and I'm not sure what we are going to do about weaning. I don't plan to force him into it, but depending on how long he wants to go on, I may try to gently encourage him out of it. I nursed #1 for 2.5 years and #2 for 1.5 years (I had pneumonia and milk dried up).<br><br><br><br>
I was carrying my daughter in a sling 13 years ago, she loved it and so did my older son, but the little guy never really took to it (and I had a much nicer one this time, a Maya wrap). Oh well. Both older kids used bottles as well as breastfeeding. They were premies and didn't nurse well at first. Little guy has never had a bottle or formula. The first child had a pacifier that they gave her in the hospital, and she used it for a few months.<br><br><br><br>
We are cloth diapering this guy and for the first time I'm using my own dipes rather than dipe service. (We started with it but I got a bit skeeved out.) I have used disposables when need be - like daycare for example. (I am at home now, but worked when my older son was little, financial necessity.)<br><br><br><br>
I would have liked to have homebirths. I had a lay midwife (she is still a good friend) but was never able to use her. The first two were too premature, and the last one had to come out via c-section due to placenta previa. (My midwife was able to attend that birth, though.)<br><br><br><br>
I try very hard to use gentle parenting, and usually succeed. I totally believe in it and think it's more effective! I've been known to lose my temper now and again, but when that happens I feel I've lost the situation and it now belongs to whichever of my wonderful kids goaded me into yelling.<br><br><br><br>
I'm new around here, I was on vegweb for a little while and enjoyed it. Looking forward to getting to know everybody here!<br><br><br><br>
Just wanted to add - re: twins and slings - it can be done. I know someone from another board who did it. She practiced using two-liter soda bottles until she could maneuver them properly. (two slings)
 

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Hi sesametofu, i have also used and still use the Mayawrap. It is the best most comfortable sling around. I got it sent over here from the US. We also use natural parenting in our home and i wouldn't have it any other way especially the co-sleeping.
 
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