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Hello,<br><br>
I'm sorry if this has been done to death, but I am looking to start using vegan hair products. Only problem is my hair is curly, and frizzes at the slightest provocation. I have run out of the stuff I usually use, so am looking for curly shampoo and conditioner, deep conditioner, and some sort of hot oil for now. I don't have a lot of money to spend on it really, but live near to a superdrug and a big boots. Any comments would be greatly appreciated.<br><br>
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I have the exact same problem. The stuff I use, however, runs on the expensive side; I use Lush hair products. I just went in there, and had a consultation with a salesperson who recommended the best vegan products for my hair type. I got a few samples, tried them out, and they worked a treat. It probably costs me around £10 a month for the shampoo and conditioner (I buy the massive bottles which last about 3 months, at £12.50 a bottle), and then £8 per tub of hair treatment which lasts about a month and a half. If it's within your price range, I'd definitely recommend it.<br><br>
If not, superdrug do their own range of vegan hair products, but I've never tried them out so I wouldn't know if they are any good or not.
 

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I emailed Frizz Ease by John Freda and they told me it isn't tested on animals and I asked about a couple of the products and they didn't have any animal products either. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
I use their hair serum, its a fiver a bottle give or take, but you use a tiny bit each time (like a small squirt) and so they last AGES and you rub it in after you wash your hair and it makes a huge difference. My hair isn't curly but it's wavey and frizzy (my mum has very frizzy hair too so I guess that's why since it's in good condition!) and I used to hate my hair, and after using the serum stuff I have grown fond of it now it isn't all over the place!<br><br>
They do a whole range of stuff, so you're bound to find something to suit you that hopefully will be vegan!<br><br>
I also think bodyshop do something similar but I don't know if it has animal products but a friend of mine used to use it and her hair always looked great so!<br><br>
Yeah I guess my advice would be find some good products and just email and ask if the company tests on animals and if it contains animal products...I've never actually found a hair product with animal products in although I'm sure it does happen. Often I have found more expensive or designer brands don't test on animals, but highstreet brands like loreal and johnsonbyjohnson do. I guess designer brands have a bigger budget to work with? (I find this true with makeup too, I don't think I've ever found expensive make up tested on animals, but just about everything in boots/superdrug type stores is! (with of course a few noteable exceptions!)
 

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Thanks for your replies. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
AeryFairy- I have to say I do love Lush. I can spend an absolute fortune in there though! In terms of Superdrug, I'm sure I read somewhere that they are withdrawing their vegan hair care range for some reason.<br><br>
Identity_thief- I usually use JF to be honest. Over the years I must have put his kids through college! But I recently found this which made me think I should change products:<br><br><a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/archive/index.php/t-17035.html" target="_blank">http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/ar...p/t-17035.html</a><br><br>
I'll probably go for lush in the short term, while I investigate cheaper alternatives. Just getting there is such a pain...<br><br>
Thanks again for your replies! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/broccoli.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":bobo:">
 

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Thanks for your replies. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
AeryFairy- I have to say I do love Lush. I can spend an absolute fortune in there though! In terms of Superdrug, I'm sure I read somewhere that they are withdrawing their vegan hair care range for some reason.</div>
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Not withdrawing, just rebranding/repackaging. It'll be back on the shelves before you know it, and in the meantime, the last lot of old stock on the superdrug website is going cheap. Like I said, though, I've never used it so I don't know what it's like on this hair type.
 

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Identity_thief- I usually use JF to be honest. Over the years I must have put his kids through college! But I recently found this which made me think I should change products:<br><br><a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/archive/index.php/t-17035.html" target="_blank">http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/ar...p/t-17035.html</a></div>
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Heya, I looked through the thread but I'm not sure. Someone said they were "vauge" when they emailed but when responding to me they were very clear in saying they didn't test products or ingrediants on animals (I don't remember specifically but I always ask about both). PETA said they wouldn't sign their cruelty free status but that doesn't mean they do test on animals either, and they also mentioned their parent company being in Japan which requires animal testing --- but that doesnt mean JF do it nessersairly. I don't know, thanks for letting me know, I might email again to ask for more clarification but switch products if needs be. I can post my reply if you want?<br><br>
It's so tricky sometimes <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> so fustrating.
 

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I'm sorry to have muddied the waters, I wasn't trying to. I am just a little confused. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:"><br><br>
I would really appreciate it if you could post your response. Thank you. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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haha no it's good really! I don't want to be using something that isn't vegan <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> But you're right it can be really confusing! Especially with some companies there seems to be a very split oppinion about if they're tested on animals/etc. I stick to emailing companies rather than googling things these days because there is nearly always a split oppinion and it's confusing! Of course it would be easier if I just bought things that said "vegan" on them but then that's quite limiting (and usually quite expensive).<br><br>
Anyway I just sent a long email so hopefully they will reply soonish and I'll post what they say. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Fingers crossed because otherwise I have some more researching to do!
 

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I'm still struggling to find good vegan products for my fro that don't cost a fortune. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br>
I may have to cave and try Lush.
 

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Of course it would be easier if I just bought things that said "vegan" on them but then that's quite limiting (and usually quite expensive).</div>
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You're right that it can add up, but a lot of times you need less of the expensive products than the cheap ones. You can use smaller portions and they last longer. And there often really is a difference in quality wherein the higher quality stuff costs a bit more.<br><br>
However, if you're on a tight budget, I suggest making your own hair care products. Perhaps try coconut oil or almond oil for your oil treatments. There are lots of recipes online for homemade hair and skin care. Could be fun to experiment <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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this line is vegan...<br><br><a href="http://www.pureology.com/discover/difference?cm_mmc=LabeliumSearch-_-GoogleGeneric-_-Vegan-_-vegan%20hair%20products" target="_blank">http://www.pureology.com/discover/di...air%20products</a><br><br>
pretty decent product, and CVS (if you live in the U.S.) carries a store brand version for a few bucks cheaper. This is what I've been using, but I need to switch it up. My hair is looking dull!<br><br>
Of course, this isn't specifically for curly hair, it's actually for colored hair, which I don't really have, but it's the only vegan brand I find conveniently and fairly inexpensively. :/
 

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We are pleased to inform you that Kao Brands does not use animals to test any of our products. We closely examine all ingredients and products before they go on the market to ensure that all products meet the safety expectations outlined in the PCPC Consumer Commitment Code, US FDA and EU regulations, and many other recognized regulatory agencies. Additionally, current plans do not include the use of animals in the development of new products.<br><br>
Yours Sincerely,<br><br><br>
John Frieda Consumer Relations UK<br><br><br>
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I think that's good news... I can't always read between the lines so well... :S but that was the reply anyway.
 

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Thanks for posting that. In my mind at least, it isn't any clearer. Notice they make a point to say animals are not tested on, but this bit:<br><blockquote>
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sounds to me like they skirted around the issue, saying that what they <i>were</i> using as ingredients is fine legally. That's a little suspicious to me.<br><br>
Damn it!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/furious.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":furious:"><br><br>
Thank you again for going to the trouble of emailing them though. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> I emailed back to check. I quoted what you did and asked if that meant they bought ingrediants from, or outsourced to, other companies that may test on animals. Not expected a reply but if I get one I'll post! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I gave up and went to Lush. I got Squeaky Green (shampoo bar for product build up), Cynthia Sylvia Stout (shampoo for curls and waves) and Veganese (conditioner for vegans!). I used them last night- still have a bit of frizz today, but my after wash styling products aren't great. The Lush items were a bit pricey, but especially with the Stout, I needed way less than I would normally use.<br><br>
Next I have to replace my styling products, but I'm going to go to Aveda for those, lots of good reviews for their curl enhancer and control.<br><br>
If you're interested, here's the link;<br><br><a href="http://www.aveda.co.uk/templates/products2/mpp.tmpl?CATEGORY_ID=CAT7212&PRODCAT_ID=CAT8154" target="_blank">http://www.aveda.co.uk/templates/pro...CAT_ID=CAT8154</a><br><br>
All are vegan and appear on the Vegan Society website. If anyone has experience of the Aveda curl range, I'd love to hear from you! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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^ thanks for the link but WOAH at the prices! I didn't get a reply back so I guess I'm going to change for future which is such a shame. Thanks though! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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There are so many different types of hair care products obtainable in the market today, almost all of them are made up of dangerous elements which are very harmful for hairs. I would recommend you to go with organic hair products as they are free from harmful chemicals and has no side effects.
 

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I absolutely adore Cynthia Sylvia Stout and Veganese. My hair is thick and very wavy and they really keep it under control.
 

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I absolutely adore Cynthia Sylvia Stout and Veganese. My hair is thick and very wavy and they really keep it under control.</div>
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Those are the exact two I use as well. Never been happier with my hair <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 
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