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I'd like to get a utility program, but all of the reviews are mixed (half hate the product, half love it)<br><br><br><br>
I've narrowed the choices to system mechanic 6, Norton sysyem works 2006, or Vcom's fix-it.<br><br><br><br>
Any thoughts/suggestions?<br><br><br><br>
Thanks!<br><br><br><br>
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I'd like to get a utility program, but all of the reviews are mixed (half hate the product, half love it)<br><br><br><br>
I've narrowed the choices to system mechanic 6, Norton sysyem works 2006, or Vcom's fix-it.<br><br><br><br>
Any thoughts/suggestions?<br><br><br><br>
Thanks!<br><br><br><br>
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What do you mean by a utility program? I don't understand that phrase.
 

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Think she means a package of multiple word programs, like "MICROSOFT WORKS" (for example only) like obviously some mug like me might get for Windows.<br><br><br><br>
Don't get "WORKS" though, its crap, that and boring!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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Think she means a package of multiple word programs, like "MICROSOFT WORKS" (for example only) like obviously some mug like me might get for Windows.<br><br><br><br>
Don't get "WORKS" though, its crap, that and boring!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> and I've hardly ever used it.....<br><br><br><br>
I'd be interersted in what your choice finally turns out to be though, BeanCounter, and if worth considering for us lot to buy (Windows based in my case just now) as to whatever you buy, please let us know your experience..... I do not know what is on the market for this, so my advice is null.<br><br>
Wish I knew of some recommendations however, then I'd gladly tell you.
 

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For harddrive repair I use fsck (file system check), it is available for most filesystems, works well and is free (as in freedom and as in price).
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Jessica Alana</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
No. She's talking about a program that has like a registry repair, a hard drive clean & repair program, etc.</div>
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Right again, Jessica. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/iloveyou.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lovesign:"><br><br><br><br>
Here's a description of the features in Norton Systemworks.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/products/features.jsp?pcid=sp&pvid=nswp2006" target="_blank">http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoff...&pvid=nswp2006</a><br><br><br><br>
I personally would use different programs to perform the individual tasks listed, and many if not all would be freeware.<br><br><br><br>
I used to like Norton's stuff, but then had so much trouble using his AntiVirus that I would avoid Norton today if possible.
 

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Think she means a package of multiple word programs, like "MICROSOFT WORKS" (for example only) like obviously some mug like me might get for Windows.<br><br><br><br>
Don't get "WORKS" though, its crap, that and boring!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> and I've hardly ever used it.....<br><br><br><br>
I'd be interersted in what your choice finally turns out to be though, BeanCounter, and if worth considering for us lot to buy (Windows based in my case just now) as to whatever you buy, please let us know your experience..... I do not know what is on the market for this, so my advice is null.<br><br>
Wish I knew of some recommendations however, then I'd gladly tell you.</div>
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If you're looking for an office suite for windows that doesn't come from microsoft I suggest you try <a href="http://www.openoffice.org" target="_blank">OpenOffice.org</a>. It is free as in freedom and as in price. I find it very useful and friendly. Give it a shot.
 

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Thanks duffstuff, whilst yapping on about MSWorks above I was curiously thinking to myself actually trying to recollect the name of that suite or ensemble you mention ....or be it just an office suite. Cheers big man! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:"><br><br>
Is there a comparison chart anyplace showing how that and MS utilities such as MSWordProcessor measure up against it?
 

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Right again, Jessica. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/iloveyou.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lovesign:"></div>
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See! I'm not as dumb as I look. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/dunce.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":dunce:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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when or where were you right the first time ? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> if thats not too goofy to ask? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/dunce.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":dunce:"><br><br><br><br>
Thankyou for your co-operation,<br><br>
Dumbass statistics board. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> (just serious, not kidding) <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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when or where were you right the first time ? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> if thats not too goofy to ask? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/dunce.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":dunce:"><br><br><br><br>
Thankyou for your co-operation, DSBIVBC.<br><br>
~~Dumbass Statistics Board of inoperative VB co-operative. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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If you're looking for an office suite for windows that doesn't come from microsoft I suggest you try <a href="http://www.openoffice.org" target="_blank">OpenOffice.org</a>. It is free as in freedom and as in price. I find it very useful and friendly. Give it a shot.</div>
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Thanks for the information on OpenOffice, I'll have to check into that!
 

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No. <b>She's</b> talking about a program that has like a registry repair, a hard drive clean & repair program, etc.</div>
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Well, first of all guys, I'm a he not a she..<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Isn't my avatar obviously masculine?? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
I've used open office, and it takes a while to load, so I've stopped using it.<br><br><br><br><b>"I used to like Norton's stuff, but then had so much trouble using his AntiVirus that I would avoid Norton today if possible."</b><br><br><br><br>
I've heard about issues with Norton too, that's why I'm looking for alternatives.<br><br><br><br><b>I personally would use different programs to perform the individual tasks listed, and many if not all would be freeware.</b><br><br><br><br>
Which ones do you suggest for registry cleaning and "go back" alternatives?
 

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Well, first of all guys, I'm a he not a she..<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Isn't my avatar obviously masculine?? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></div>
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Yeah but look at my avatars, in every other one, I could be female <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> but I don't sweat it.... I just think its nice to <span style="text-decoration:underline;">not</span> be masculine the whole time!!!<br><br><br><br>
I actually checked for gender facts, as you had not posted much lately I think(?) sooo I forget, so I just went straight for finding out what threads you had started (or posted in) and in one you are [strike]mother[/strike] (no DAD!!) to a son, my bad.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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I used to like Norton's stuff, but then had so much trouble using his AntiVirus that I would avoid Norton today if possible.</div>
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So do you still rely on Norton sometimes or definately no way hozay ? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/undecided.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":-/"><br><br><br><br>
What went wrong for you, anything drastic applicable to maybe others using Norton products like AntiV?<br><br><br><br><i><b>In bold</b> to highlight WHAT THING:</i> <b>Was it an update issue you've had?...How long ago since you used any Norton product ?</b> I've no reason to suspect that as being an issue other than~ genericly, its a common issue for the lesser brands I would suspect for those or any FREELY provided AntiV such as AVGanti-V or whoever, <i>but Norton??</i>.... and again just assumption as to what aspect of Norton you are talking about. My Norton AntiV appear to be all working fine, but are you saying there is self-illusionment involved about how good or well a product like Norton is working?<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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I've used open office, and it takes a while to load, so I've stopped using it.<br></div>
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Well why not see if you can trim it down or ask them if they have a more compact, less roomy version? (or less 'bell & whistles' ?) or whatever would need to be got (or got rid of) for adjustment!!!??!!? Thats what I wanna find out from them myself, (as a newbie to their site)....
 

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I've used open office, and it takes a while to load, so I've stopped using it.<br></div>
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For the windows version there is an option to preload the suite into memory at boot time. This will dramatically reduce the start time when you open it.<br><br><br><br>
Another tip to reduce load time. Go to tools->options->java and uncheck "Use a java runtime environment". The jre is used by some of the features, but it is very likely you don't use those features. I know I don't.<br><br><br><br>
If you're looking for a word processor that is less resource intensive you could give <a href="http://www.abisource.com/" target="_blank">abiword</a> a try. It is only a word processor not a whole suite, but it is very nice.
 

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Yeah I'm sure thats all good dufstuff useful to help load quicker.... So what is a memory boot time for Windows??<br><br><br><br>
but anyway on ANOTHER NOTE NOW (about what I was hoping for and suggesting we ask in my above post).... I just found this for those only of us wanting only part or parts of the suite, and we for the moment are onto a no-Brainer it looks like: <b>See FAQ quote =003</b><br><br><br><br>
Below appears to make good sense what they say for the moment, but AT THIS TIME they are saying so maybe there is hope in future that ONLY PARTS will available in smaller MB eventually I guess!!!!<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block"><a href="http://documentation.openoffice.org/faqs/installation/003.html" target="_blank">http://documentation.openoffice.org/...ation/003.html</a><br><br><br><br>
Can I download only parts of the OpenOffice.org suite?<br><br>
No, this is not possible at this time. OpenOffice.org is an application suite. A suite is one application with several different faces. Most of these faces use the same set of libraries. Although the download size of the entire application may be around 70 MB, the download for the core components needed to enable only the word processor module would probably be over 50 MB. This is not much of a saving compared to the loss of extra functionality included in the other modules of the office suite.</div>
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Well, first of all guys, I'm a he not a she..<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Isn't my avatar obviously masculine?? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></div>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Beancounter</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><br><br><br><b>I personally would use different programs to perform the individual tasks listed, and many if not all would be freeware.</b><br><br><br><br>
Which ones do you suggest for registry cleaning and "go back" alternatives?</div>
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Registry Cleaning:<br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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CCleaner (Crap Cleaner)<br><br>
Company: CCleaner Author: --<br><br>
(Donationware) (free)<br><br>
Windows OS: Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP; Windows Server 2003<br><br>
Languages: English; German; French; Spanish; Italian and other languages<br><br>
Description: CCleaner is a system optimization and privacy tool. It removes unused files from your system - allowing Windows to run faster and freeing up valuable hard disk space. It's fast (normally taking less that a second to run). It cleans: Internet Explorer (Temporary files, URL history, cookies, Autocomplete form history, index.dat); Firefox (Temporary files, URL history, cookies, download history); Windows (Recycle Bin, Recent Documents, Temporary files and Log files); Registry cleaner (Advanced features to remove unused and old entries, including File Extensions, ActiveX Controls, ClassIDs, ProgIDs, Uninstallers, Shared DLLs, Fonts, Help Files, Application Paths, Icons, Invalid Shortcuts and more... also comes with a comprehensive backup feature.) Third-party applications (Removes temp files and recent file lists (MRUs) from many apps including Opera, Media Player, eMule, Kazaa, Google Toolbar, Netscape, MS Office, Nero, Adobe Acrobat, WinRAR, WinAce, WinZip and many more...)<br><br>
Home Page:<br><br><a href="http://www.ccleaner.com/" target="_blank">http://www.ccleaner.com/</a><br><br>
download page v 1.26.218 (2005-11-24) [ ccsetup126.exe (529 KB)]<br><br><a href="http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp" target="_blank">http://www.ccleaner.com/ccdownload.asp</a><br><br>
2006PL CD files: ccsetup126.exe<br><br>
(desc. rev.: 2005-11-26)<br><br><br><br>
EasyCleaner<br><br>
Company: ToniArts Author: Toni Helenius<br><br>
(Donationware) (free)<br><br>
Windows OS: Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP<br><br>
Languages: English and many other languages<br><br>
Description: EasyCleaner is a small program which searches Windows' registry for entries that are pointing nowhere. Deleting these entries will speed your computer up. But as you already might know, deleting entries from registry can be dangerous for your computer, so it is wise to make a backup of your registry. On my computer, deleting entries which were pointing nowhere, speeded my computer up! EasyCleaner also lets you delete all kinds of unnecessary files like temps, backups etc. You can search for duplicate files and you can view some intresting info about your disk space usage! Deleting invalid shortcuts from start-menu is possible as well.<br><br>
Buzzy's review:<br><br><a href="http://www.buzzys.net/easycleaner.html" target="_blank">http://www.buzzys.net/easycleaner.html</a><br><br>
Home Page, download v 2.0.6.380 (2005-03-23) [ EClea2_0.exe (2795 KB)] [ EClea2_0.zip (538 KB): ]<br><br><a href="http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts/" target="_blank">http://personal.inet.fi/business/toniarts/</a><br><br>
alternate download location:<br><br><a href="http://freeware4u.com/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=165" target="_blank">http://freeware4u.com/modules/mydown...le.php?lid=165</a><br><br>
2006PL CD files: EClea2_0.exe EClea2_0.zip<br><br>
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RegSeeker<br><br>
Company: -- Author: Thibaud Djian - Russ Schwenkler<br><br>
(Betaware) (free for personal use)<br><br>
Windows OS: Windows<br><br>
Languages: English; French; German; Spanish; Hungarian; Italian<br><br>
Description: RegSeeker is a perfect companion for your Windows registry ! RegSeeker includes a powerful registry cleaner and can display various informations like your startup entries, several histories (even index.dat files), installed applications and much more ! With RegSeeker you can search for any item inside your registry, export/delete the results, open them in the registry. RegSeeker also includes a tweaks panel to optimize your OS ! Now RegSeeker includes a file tool to search for duplicate files, bad shortcuts and more !<br><br>
Home page:<br><br><a href="http://www.hoverdesk.net/" target="_blank">http://www.hoverdesk.net/</a><br><br>
Program description; download v 1.45 beta (2005-05-) [ RegSeeker.zip (344 KB)]<br><br><a href="http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm" target="_blank">http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm</a><br><br>
2006PL CD files: RegSeeker.zip<br><br>
(desc. rev.: 2005-10-01)<br><br><br><br><b>Cleaner: Files And Registry</b><br><br><br><br>
RegCleaner<br><br>
Company: -- Author: Jouni Vuorio<br><br>
(Freeware) NOTES: last freeware version (v 4.3.0.780)<br><br>
Windows OS: Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP<br><br>
Languages: English and many other languages<br><br>
Description: RegCleaner is an easy to use program. With RegCleaner you can easily get rid of those old and obsolete registry entries created by software that you have destroyed ages ago. And by easily, I mean easily. You don't have to be any expert to use this program. Key Features: - Remove file types - Remove entries of old software - Uninstall and remove Software from the Add/Remove list - Remove unused DLL files - Remove unused Shared DLLs (Automatically detected) - Automatic backup feature Other features - Advanced automation. You can easily create scripts to make many tasks much easier. Please notice: Support for Windows 95 is limited, all the functions aren't available under Win95. Also, RegCleaner doesn't work on many multi processor systems, usually it starts (you can see it with the task manager) but it stays invisible.<br><br>
Program description:<br><br><a href="http://freeware4u.com/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=49" target="_blank">http://freeware4u.com/modules/mydown...ile.php?lid=49</a><br><br>
download v 4.3.0.780 [ RegCleaner.exe (540 KB) with installer]<br><br><a href="http://freeware4u.com/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=49" target="_blank">http://freeware4u.com/modules/mydown...sit.php?lid=49</a><br><br>
download page v 4.3.0.780 [ RegCleanerNoSetup.exe (494 KB) (no install)]<br><br><a href="http://freeware.it-mate.co.uk/?Cat=PC_Maintenance#84" target="_blank">http://freeware.it-mate.co.uk/?Cat=PC_Maintenance#84</a><br><br>
2006PL CD files: RegCleaner.exe RegCleanerNoSetup.exe<br><br>
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Backup: Registry<br><br><br><br>
Emergency Recovery Utility NT (ERUNT)<br><br>
Company: -- Author: Lars Hederer<br><br>
(Donationware) (free)<br><br>
Windows OS: Windows NT/2000/XP; Windows Server 2003 NOTES: Use the no install (.zip) version on Windows NT 3.51. The install version won't work.<br><br>
Languages: English; German; language packs for other languages<br><br>
Description: Erunt allows a complete backup and restore of the Registry for Windows NT 4.0 and all following versions based on the NT kernel (2000, XP)<br><br>
Home Page, download v 1.1j (2005-10-20) [ erunt-setup.exe (772 KB)] [ erunt.zip (501 KB)]<br><br><a href="http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/" target="_blank">http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/</a><br><br>
2006PL CD files: erunt-setup.exe erunt.zip<br><br>
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