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yeah that's right.<br><br><br><br>
ok so i thought i'd do something nice and make some goodies for when my roommate's parents come tomorrow, plus it's his girlfriend's birthday. so i decided to make those no-bake oatmeal cookies since i have all the stuff. or did.<br><br><br><br>
i got everything in the pot, heating, and was measuring out the PB when i noticed a bug in the bowl with the oatmeal i measured out earlier. ewwww! just a teeny little thing, and i figured it must've been in the bowl when i went to use it and i hadn't noticed. it was on the side, not touching the oatmeal. so i tossed him out and went about my business thinking no harm was done. then a sudden urge hit me and i started sifting through the oatmeal with my hands, to make sure. and i found about 4 or 5 more bugs. oh my god. i checked the bag of what was left of the oatmeal and it had bugs in it too, and a teeny little hole in the plastic.<br><br><br><br>
wow. so i dumped it all and in a desperate attempt to save the cookies i dumped in some graham crumbs (i checked through it thoroughly first, bug-free thank god.) but now i'm left with basically, the base of a no-bake brownie or nanaimo bar thing. so i spread it in a pan and am trying to figure out what to do with it while it's setting in the fridge.<br><br><br><br>
i am so creeped out right now though. i have a lot of bulk baking stuff in baggies in that same cupboard. i'm gonna have to check everything in there and clean the cupboards out well.<br><br><br><br>
*heave*<br><br>
so umm.. what can i place around inside cupboards to keep bugs away? nothing to kill them mind you, just something they don't like that they'll avoid. does such a thing exist? i don't like the idea of having to sift through every ingredient in the house every time i bake. i'm afraid to look in the flour. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/bigcry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":cry:"><br><br><br><br>
i hate bugs.
 

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You could get Tupperware-style containers for your dry goods, although that might be a bit expensive.<br><br><br><br>
I double-bag all my flour, cereals, rice, etc, by placing the original manufacturers bag inside large Ziploc bags, which I re-use as I replace the items.<br><br><br><br>
One other thought...is it possible that the bugs aren't coming from your cupboards at all? Sometimes grocery warehouses can have insect issues which will cause little creepy-crawlies to get into your food before you bring it home.
 

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well the oatmeal is store bought, not bulk, and i've had it for a while. i don't remember seeing bugs in it before tonight. it might be possible that they got into it while we were moving, from the truck or something, but they were all still alive.<br><br><br><br>
tupperware is a good idea. we usually have a ton of those cheap ziploc containers, i guess i'll start transferring some stuff into those, and find a big container for the flour.<br><br>
i hate bugs so much <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br><br><br>
it reminds me of my last 2 apartments, every now and then i'd pull a dish down from the cupboard and there'd be a silverfish sitting in it. always startled me half to death and it was such an effort to not drop the dish and smash it.<br><br><br><br>
blah. eeurgh. buuuuugs
 

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and maybe even not want to here it. But the bugs didn't get <i>in</i> your oatmeal, they were already there. There's a certain amount of bug stuff in all loose grain related products like oatmeal, flour, wheat, etc. It's just that we eat the product before they hatch. It's perfectly acceptable by government standards. From what I read there's no possible way to totally be 100% certain they are not included. The bugs basically lay eggs (unseen to the naked eye) in the grain product. Given enough time and the right conditions, they will hatch. So, even if you did have your oatmeal in tupperware containers, you could very well end up with bugs if it sat there long enough. Ewww.....
 

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Ohhhh yuck. I'd say the tupperware or other containers are your best bet. The store I work at has a bulk section, and the people who work in bulk have the best sanitation standards of anyone in the store. Sometimes stuff comes from the supplier with bugs in it, and even the marvelous bulk staff can't catch everything.
 

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I agree with MsRuthieB, that the bugs were probably in the meal when you bought it from the store. They just "hatched" under the right conditions.<br><br><br><br>
I was always told that bay leaves were good insect repellents for areas like food cupboards, etc. But I am not sure whether or not they fit your vegan, no-kill criteria. I think their odor or fragrance repels bugs, but the bugs might die if they start eating the leaves. Maybe a little bit of both.<br><br><br><br>
I am told that almost any strong-smelling herb or spice will repel insects. Lavender, for instance. It can become an issue of cost.<br><br><br><br>
I don't know about you, but my Mom would always wash out glass jars, especially wide mouthed glass jars--say, from peanut butter--and then items like flour, rice, sugar, etc. would go in the glass jar and be sealed air-tight until the next use. I would think that would be cheaper than going out and buying Tupperware for storage. Sometimes, the whole package could fit in the jar without being opened--just stuff it in. Other times, the package had to be opened and the contents poured into the jar. A bay leaf or two can be added to the top of the jar before it is closed. Other items that might get bugs would be kept in the refrigerator, if there was room.<br><br><br><br>
I have a fairly large collection of glass jars. The narrow-mouthed ones get recycled; but the wide-mouthed jars get used for storage.
 

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Yep, glass jars.<br><br><br><br>
The best there is.<br><br>
"for free", and environment-friendly.<br><br><br><br>
Afaik the common weat/oats are gassed to kill all bugs/life inside.<br><br>
Organic variety are frozen to kill all, or are treated with compressed air.<br><br><br><br>
Never the less, there still can be bugs/eggs inside.
 

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agh. that's so raunchy.<br><br>
my roommate says he used to get the same type of bugs in cereal and crackers as a kid, so he always checks before eating anything like that, and bugs me to put open packages of crackers in the fridge, which i thought was wierd til now. i wonder how many bugs i ate in my cereal as a kid. blah<br><br><br><br>
i found a dead bug in a plate of cooked rice once. dang bug even looked like a piece of rice, same colour, only reason i knew it was a bug is cause it had legs. wonder how many of those i've eaten in my life too.<br><br><br><br>
i have heard of putting bay leaves in stored food, i never knew why though, i thought it was to keep stuff fresh or to keep moisture out.<br><br><br><br>
in any case i know the bugs hate light, cause i left the bag of oatmeal on the counter for a few minutes before throwing it out, and 2 bugs came out of the little hole in the bag and were scittering around the counter trying to find shade. blech. stupid nasty little critters.<br><br><br><br>
i dreamed this morning that the bag was back in the cupboard, and i yelled "i threw that out, i know i did" and then everything in the cupboards had bugs in it. hehe that's it i'm scarred for life
 

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Arg, is this buggy food technically not vegetarian in the most legalistic of senses? Kinda like that probability that says we're all likely to eat 5-6 spiders in a year in our sleep.
 

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I'm feeling your pain today LadyFaile. I just went to grab my generic tupperware container out of the cupboard that had rye berries in it. It's a see through container, and I saw something moving in there - yep....Thousands of bugs. The rye berries are all eaten through and what's left is dust and rye berry carcasses. I swear I'm going to hurl right now. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sick.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":sick:">
 

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I had a sealed container of brown rice and I went to use it and there were hundreds of tiny little buggers all over the place. The rice pieces were split open too so I assume that's where they came from.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/spew.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":spew:"><br><br><br><br>
this thread is making me immensely paranoid.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/spew.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":spew:"> Um, remind me to avoid all grain products for the next few days
 

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lol i can't believe this thread came back.<br><br>
i'd been thinking, now and then when the kitchen is a little messier than usual or the garbage is full and needs to go out, we'll start to get fruit flies. it dawned on me that these things probably aren't coming in from outside, and aren't just materializing, they must hatch out stuff from the grocery store.
 

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<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>1vegan</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Yep, glass jars.<br><br><br><br>
The best there is.<br><br>
"for free", and environment-friendly.<br></div>
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Since we've revived this thread <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
I agree with 1vegan. I save all my glass jars for food storage. I also collect them from neighbors and coworkers who insist on having matching cannisters instead of using jars.
 

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I keep my flour in the freezer. That's what my mom taught me to do. Nothing can survive in there! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rockon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rockon:">
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sick.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":sick:"><br><br><br><br>
i was just going to have some oatmeal. now i don't know if i am going to be able to eat anything.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>LadyFaile</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
lol i can't believe this thread came back.<br><br>
i'd been thinking, now and then when the kitchen is a little messier than usual or the garbage is full and needs to go out, we'll start to get fruit flies. it dawned on me that these things probably aren't coming in from outside, and aren't just materializing, they must hatch out stuff from the grocery store.</div>
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Hey I was bored- and just looked at the calendar thing- you are exactly a day older than me! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hi.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hi:"> thats cool.<br><br><br><br>
Anyway yeah there wasn't really a point to me replying to this- other than has anyone any good suggestions for dealing with moths?<br><br><br><br>
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*shudder* Moths in my blender...I think there are moth eggs on the underneath or something. Can't help you out with that, but I feel your pain!
 
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