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1.This is probably a dumb question, but I was just wondering about it. I really like calamari and I was wondering if I had some of that every once in a while if I would be betraying what I believe in. I don't eat any other kind of fish and that was the only one I wasn't sure about.<br><br><br><br>
2.Also have any of you guys accidentally had meat? Like it was mixed into your rice or pasta or something and you didn't realize it? I was just curious about that as well.<br><br><br><br>
These both may be very silly questions, but I just thought I would come out and ask them. Thanks so much to anyone that could help with either one of these questions and take care.
 

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1. Calamari is a living thing. Sometimes you have to make sacrifices for something that you really believe in, and they do suck but you're a better person because of it.<br><br><br><br>
It really comes down to how you feel. If you feel like you're betraying yourself, then don't eat it.<br><br><br><br>
2. I haven't yet. I'm very paranoid and I ask a lot of questions before I eat something like pasta or rice...it's so easy to hide something in there.
 

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1.This is probably a dumb question, but I was just wondering about it. I really like calamari and I was wondering if I had some of that every once in a while if I would be betraying what I believe in. I don't eat any other kind of fish and that was the only one I wasn't sure about.<br><br><br><br>
2.Also have any of you guys accidentally had meat? Like it was mixed into your rice or pasta or something and you didn't realize it? I was just curious about that as well.<br><br><br><br>
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Littleveggie ...there aren't no rules (but it would not be classed as vegetarian )you have to work through it your self ...maybe if you ate the squid over time you might lose the liking for it ...I don't know<br><br><br><br>
Yeah , I and many others here have accidentally eaten some thing with meat in . Although not nice ,and some do react, its best to move on ...some might view it as what was your intentions , that is , you did not intend to eat the meat , it was an accident
 

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I can't remember if calamari is octopus or squid, but octopus are really smart. There was a study where they gave an octopus a screw-top jar w/something yummy inside. The octopus wasn't sure how to get to the yummy thing (crab?) at first. Then they let it watch as they gave another octopus a similar jar, and that octopus had already figured out how to open it, so then the first octopus also figured it out.<br><br><br><br>
Neat, huh? And they apparently have their own personalities, some being more curious and outgoing than others. Do you still want to kill & eat them? Just some things to think about.
 

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What a cute story! Glad you posted that <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
It really depends on what you believe to know wheather or not you'd be betraying your morals. Kinda one of those... look within yourself and ask that question kind of things <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
As for the accidental meat... yeah it happens. Seems to happen to me a lot, or maybe I just think it's a lot. Probably once every other month or so. I usually catch it before I take a bite but not always. Makes me upset but I move on quickly. I haven't "cheated" or "slipped" since I went veg 6 years ago but, like alcohol and smoking, if I did I would feel awful and restore my commitment. Hope that helps!
 

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No one can really tell you if it's ok for you to eat calamari once in a while. It's not vegetarian. It's like saying you are only going to have a hamburger 2-3 times a year. I ate soy cheese once with casein in it and definitely had a case of the guilts. And I also had a piece of milk chocolate. For me, it's definitely 'cheating'. It's not like a regular 'diet' where if you go off of it, you only hurt yourself by not losing weight. But again, if you set your own standards and are comfortable with it, then it's fine. As long as you know that eating calamari is not vegetarian. Hope this helps a bit.
 

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I agree 100% with Karen's answer on calmari.<br><br><br><br>
Yeah, accidental slipups happen. It sucks, but you just have to be more careful next time (if it could have been prevented) and move on. You have to not let it get you down. Once you learn how to avoid those situations a little better, these instances get rarer <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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the only mess up i have had is eating refried beans. some cans use lard in them. but, i didn't ever look because i didn't think about it. now i get the vegetarian refried beans by El Paso, or something. now i read EVERY label.
 

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There are no rules of what you can and cannot eat, so you have to decide for yourself what you think it's ok to eat. Just keep in mind that if you tell people that you're vegetarian and then they see you chowing down on calamari, it sends a deceptive message about what it means to be vegetarian, which can hurt other vegetarians because then people assume that they eat sea creatures too.<br><br><br><br>
Here's an article that might interest you about the intelligence of squid: <a href="http://www.stanford.edu/dept/news/pr/00/000323gilly.html" target="_blank">http://www.stanford.edu/dept/news/pr...0323gilly.html</a><br><br><br><br>
As for eating meat by accident, yes it has happened to most, if not all, of us at some point. You just have to move on and do your best to avoid the situation in the future.
 

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1. a living thing is a living thing. yyou basically have to ask yourself how important your morals and beliefs are to yourself.<br><br>
2. never. ask questions, dont ever feel afraid to keep asking.
 

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1. I really liked proscutto (sp?) when I was an omni. There is nothing even close to it in the veg*n world. I've been a veg*n for 12+ yrs though and haven't eaten it once. For me, my morals come above my tastebuds. I think it is morally and ethically wrong to murder animals, even occasionally. Would you leave your pet fish out of water and watch it flip around on the table, desperate for oxygen, until it dies? Probably not. Squids deserve the same respect.<br><br><br><br>
2. Probably. I've not knowingly eaten meat since I've become vegetarian. I'm pretty cautious... read a lot of labels, ask a lot of questions when dining out, I bring food when I go places (i.e. the grandparents-in-laws for easter dinner tomorrow, where I've been warned, all food will contain meat or dairy). I've definitely taken pills with gelatin, but I don't count that as strikes against me. What good am I going to do for animals if I'm dead because I didn't take medicine I needed?
 

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I really like calamari and I was wondering if I had some of that every once in a while if I would be betraying what I believe in</div>
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If you enjoy it, eat it. If your conscience bothers you, don't eat it. Squid is a living thing, but so are vegetables. It may not have a mouth, or breath, or move, but it is alive.<br><br><br><br>
Don't let some one else's paranoia (fear) affect your judgement, otherwise you'll end up paranoid (full of fear) yourself.
 

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1.This is probably a dumb question, but I was just wondering about it. I really like calamari and I was wondering if I had some of that every once in a while if I would be betraying what I believe in. I don't eat any other kind of fish and that was the only one I wasn't sure about.</div>
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Only you know what you believe in; we can't tell you if you're betraying yourself. Do you believe all animals deserve respect? Then eating calamari occasionally might betray what you believe. Do you believe some animals deserve respect but others don't -- perhaps that fish or very alien looking creatures are ok to eat? Then eating calamari might not betray what you believe, but it would preclude you from being vegetarian.<br><br><br><br>
If you believe all living things deserve respect, even plants, you might research fruitarianism. However, most vegetarians draw a line between sentient creatures able to feel pain, and non-sentient plants with no nervous system.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">2.Also have any of you guys accidentally had meat? Like it was mixed into your rice or pasta or something and you didn't realize it? I was just curious about that as well.</div>
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Oh yeah. Once I was eating a vegetable dish from a Chinese restaurant and found a big piece of bacon in the middle. I threw the bacon out and said, "I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that." What can you do? Stuff happens.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">These both may be very silly questions, but I just thought I would come out and ask them. Thanks so much to anyone that could help with either one of these questions and take care.</div>
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NEVER any silly questions, only the occasional hostile and rude answerer, whom you can feel comfortable in ignoring. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Only you know what you believe in; we can't tell you if you're betraying yourself. Do you believe all animals deserve respect? Then eating calamari occasionally might betray what you believe. Do you believe some animals deserve respect but others don't -- perhaps that fish or very alien looking creatures are ok to eat? Then eating calamari might not betray what you believe, but it would preclude you from being vegetarian.<br><br><br><br>
If you believe all living things deserve respect, even plants, you might research fruitarianism. However, most vegetarians draw a line between sentient creatures able to feel pain, and non-sentient plants with no nervous system.</div>
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Wow. Great post. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/notworthy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":wayne:"><br><br><br><br>
oh, and very cool article on the critical learning period of squid. Like language acquisition in people. Babies lose the ability to hear sounds that are not made in their native language. Can't train adults to hear those sounds if they didn't hear them enough when young.<br><br><br><br>
(so sad that scientists sewed kittens' & baby monkey's eyes shut in those sensory deprivation experiments, though. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/evil.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":evil:"> )
 

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Wow. Great post. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/notworthy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":wayne:"><br><br><br><br>
oh, and very cool article on the critical learning period of squid. Like language acquisition in people. Babies lose the ability to hear sounds that are not made in their native language. Can't train adults to hear those sounds if they didn't hear them enough when young.<br><br><br><br>
(so sad that scientists sewed kittens' & baby monkey's eyes shut in those sensory deprivation experiments, though. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/evil.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":evil:"> )</div>
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Yeah, it's pretty irritating to see all of the animal experimentation that went in to figuring out the squid have a good deal of intelligence. It's amazing that the researchers and the author of the article don't see the irony there...
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>littleveggie</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
1.This is probably a dumb question, but I was just wondering about it. I really like calamari and I was wondering if I had some of that every once in a while if I would be betraying what I believe in. I don't eat any other kind of fish and that was the only one I wasn't sure about.</div>
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That depends on what you believe in. If you believe in not eating living things and want to be a vegetarian then yes, you would be betraying that. If you believe it's ok to eat living things that taste good and want to be an omnivore then no, you wouldn't be betraying that.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">2.Also have any of you guys accidentally had meat? Like it was mixed into your rice or pasta or something and you didn't realize it? I was just curious about that as well.</div>
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Yes, I believe most people probably have even if they don't realize it. Unless you cook all of your meals at home from scratch there's really no way to know.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">These both may be very silly questions, but I just thought I would come out and ask them. Thanks so much to anyone that could help with either one of these questions and take care.</div>
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Not silly. Becoming a vegetarian is not as easy as some people think it is. Even after 10 years I still learn something new just about every day. Good luck!
 
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