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Hey guys,<br><br>
I've known several vegetarians over the course of my life, and I've heard about environmentalism and sustainable agriculture being reasons for it.<br><br>
So, I recently thought, "why not try it, it could be the way of the future." I haven't eaten meat in two days, which, to be honest, is probably the longest I've gone without it in years. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/blush.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":eek:"><br><br>
As I understand it, Land + Water = Crops. Land + Water + Crops = Meat. Therefore, crops are more efficient. But my concern is whether or not I can still help the environment without going vegan. After all, Land + Water + Crops = Dairy and Eggs.<br><br>
Is my wish to help the environment and be more sustainable by avoiding meat futile unless I also avoid dairy and eggs?
 

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Hey guys,<br><br>
I've known several vegetarians over the course of my life, and I've heard about environmentalism and sustainable agriculture being reasons for it.<br><br>
So, I recently thought, "why not try it, it could be the way of the future." I haven't eaten meat in two days, which, to be honest, is probably the longest I've gone without it in years. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/blush.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":eek:"><br><br>
As I understand it, Land + Water = Crops. Land + Water + Crops = Meat. Therefore, crops are more efficient. But my concern is whether or not I can still help the environment without going vegan. After all, Land + Water + Crops = Dairy and Eggs.<br><br>
Is my wish to help the environment and be more sustainable by avoiding meat futile unless I also avoid dairy and eggs?</div>
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Being vegetarian is more environmentally friendly than being omnivorous. Being vegan is more environmentally friendly than being vegetarian. Alot of people here are vegetarians, it's up to you if you decide to make the change to veganism <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I was vegetarian for close to two months before I decided to change. Take it in stride <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Thanks for the support.
 

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Yeah I agree that being vegan will be a bigger step toward being more environmentally friendly than vegetarian but don't look at this as an "all or nothing" thing, especially when starting out.
 

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It's better to do what you're comfortable with and will be more likely to stick to. And being a vegetarian is doing much more for the environment then being an omni.
 

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There is a well known vegan (I think her full name is Colleen Patrick Goudreau, or something close to that) who says, "Don't do nothing just because you can't do everything." I think any step toward minimizing our carbon footprint and impact on animal suffering is a worthy step!
 

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I agree with everyone else here. Do the best you can for now. If somewhere down the road you can't shake off the feeling that you're not doing enough but that you could, then it's maybe time to go vegan. And by not eating meat you reduce your carbon footprint so much! Eating a pound of beef produces as much CO2 as driving roughly 150km in an average car. That's a lot! So cutting out meat is a great step already <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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There is a well known vegan (I think her full name is Colleen Patrick Goudreau, or something close to that) who says, "Don't do nothing just because you can't do everything." I think any step toward minimizing our carbon footprint and impact on animal suffering is a worthy step!</div>
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Great quote, I've had her The Vegan Table cookbook and it's excellent!<br><br>
Yes, vegan is better. Even better would to be to only buy organic, fair trade, rainforest alliance certified... and not drive a car! There's always "better" but what I wish people would concentrate on is doing <i>their best.</i><br>
You know, your best actually gets better that longer you do it!<br>
I believed in being vegan to the extent that it kept me an omnivore. It wasn't until I let myself ease up and eat cheese, and not worry about every ingrediant that I finally gave up all meat. That was almost two years ago. I had more to learn about nutrition, and cooking styles than I realized. I'm always learning.<br>
After going vegetarian, I started watching for ingrediants, and omitting them, but it was a full year before I was ready to go vegan. I didn't find that easy at all, but took baby steps to get there.<br><br>
Perfect is often the enemy of good.
 

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Thank you for saying this.<br>
Noted down. Such a beautiful quote <3
 

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Being vegetarian is more environmentally friendly than being omnivorous. Being vegan is more environmentally friendly than being vegetarian. Alot of people here are vegetarians, it's up to you if you decide to make the change to veganism <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I was vegetarian for close to two months before I decided to change. Take it in stride <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></div>
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and fruitarians are "more" environmentally friendly than being vegan and so on and so forth <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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My advice: go <span style="color:#008000;"><b>Vegan</b></span> and be done with it.
 

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As others have said, going vegetarian is a good move to help the environment. For example, if you can't recycle everything, would you say it's better to recycle some things or nothing at all? It's the same with cutting out animal products; if you can't cut them all out, reducing your consumption is still helping.
 
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