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So I've just recently switched over to vegan - and right now I'm waiting - hoping! the cheese craving would just go away already - but otherwise, things are going well.<br><br>
I'm a little concerned I'm eating too much pasta/breads/etc. though. I seem to get hungry a lot sooner if I don't have something like that in my meal, and this is probably all that stupid "OMG carbs bad" fad just sitting in the back of my brain - but is eating some sort of bread/pasta at almost every meal bad? (I'm trying to make as much of it whole grain as possible, at least.)<br><br>
Any suggestions for a replacement that won't leave me starving? I try to eat things that are supposed to fill me up, like apples - but I usually still end up wanting to eat everything in sight later because I'm so hungry.
 

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There is no such thing as too much pasta! It's pretty silly how long this "carbs = bad" philosophy has been hanging on, long after we realized Atkin's was a pretty terrible diet. Whole grains are definitely preferable, but I just can't get on board with whole grain pasta -- it just doesn't taste the same or reheat as well. I love whole grain breads, though.<br><br>
Anyway, what you might be missing if you're having lots of pasta/bread/etc is protein. I like to plan a good source of protein at every meal -- that helps me feel full for longer. A little bit of fat can help as well. If you're used to eating cheese pretty regularly, you might just not be getting enough calories.<br><br>
I'm a former cheesavore as well -- don't worry, it gets easier! I've cheese-free for less than a year and I don't really miss it anymore. I would recommend trying some cheese subs (store bought or homemade) with an open mind - you might not like all of them, but you will probably find some that work for you.
 

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ok...typical questions:<br><br>
male or female<br>
how old are you<br>
what's your activity level<br>
can you give us an overview of how much you're eating?<br>
how long has it been during your conversion time time right now? It does take time for your body to adjust from the typical diet into a healthier vegan diet<br><br>
how much bread and pasta are you eating? you need carbs for sure! I'm seeing better results without the processed foods being pasta and bread and just eating the whole grain itself, like oats, quinoa, whole wheat coucous, amaranth.<br><br>
stuff yourself on the good nutrient dense foods, like squashes, sweet potatoes, beans and lots of greens.
 

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Yeah, it's crazy how long those things stick around. It's like - I knew that Atkin's was horrible (I thought that when it came out!) but I guess there was still just some part of my brain that was like "Oh, my god, all those carbs, what are you doing?!"<br><br>
You know, I've never noticed much difference with whole grain pasta - but then, I'm one of those people that whatever sauce goes with the pasta, I use oodles of it. Right now I'm eating a pasta with a sauce of tahini, sweet chili sauce, soy sauce, and rice vinegar. (I think the tahini is a good source of protein and fats, since it's sesame seeds?)<br><br>
Haha, I'm a little scared of the cheese substitutes - any suggestions for a good one?
 

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male or female - female<br><br>
how old are you - 23<br><br>
what's your activity level - Not much vigorous activity, but I'm on my feet walking around about 10-15 hours a day at my job(s).<br><br>
can you give us an overview of how much you're eating? About 2 cups (cooked) oatmeal or something like that for brekky, fruit snack, some sort of pasta for lunch/dinner - again probably about 2 cups (my eating schedule is really out of whack because of work) - and then I have a snacking habit at work after dinner (we eat dinner at work before service, so I eat dinner, and then am working on the line for about 5 more hours) and I tend to just munch what veggies I have on my line - edamame beans, hummus with celery, that sort of thing. So I have really maybe two "normal" meals where I sit down and eat - but mostly I'm a grazer, and very bad at keeping up with how much I've eaten.<br><br>
how long has it been during your conversion time time right now? It does take time for your body to adjust from the typical diet into a healthier vegan diet - I've been *trying* to do it for a few weeks now, with mixed success - but really only the past...3 days? I've been doing well at it.
 

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fruits & vegetables are better sources of carbohydrates, protein, and fats than grains, if you look at the micronutrients, but it's okay to include some grains. try to eat more greens for nutrition.
 

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You know, I've never noticed much difference with whole grain pasta - but then, I'm one of those people that whatever sauce goes with the pasta, I use oodles of it. Right now I'm eating a pasta with a sauce of tahini, sweet chili sauce, soy sauce, and rice vinegar. (I think the tahini is a good source of protein and fats, since it's sesame seeds?)</div>
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That sounds pretty awesome to me! I don't know why, but I've never really thought of having a tahini sauce on pasta. Yes, tahini should be a very nice source of some protein and fat to keep you full a little longer. Add some veggies and that would be a great balanced meal.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Haha, I'm a little scared of the cheese substitutes - any suggestions for a good one?</div>
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Well, everyone has their own preferences. But, so far my favorites are Follow Your Heart Mozzarella (particularly on lasagna), Galaxy rice vegan cheddar slices for grilled cheese, and then a couple of homemade sauces for mac and cheese, nachos, etc: <a href="http://simplytink.blogspot.com/2010/11/my-stove-top-mac-and-cheeze.html" target="_blank">Tofu-based mac and cheese sauce</a>, and <a href="http://vegweb.com/index.php?topic=7126.0" target="_blank">this cashew-based dry cheesy mix</a>. I'm not a huge Daiya fan due to the texture, but a lot of people love it so I'd recommend giving it a try. I actually really like the new pepperjack Daiya for some reason -- great for nachos. Both Daiya nad Follow Your Heart can be frozen, in case you can't go through a whole package in time (I think they keep about 7-10 days after opening, but it should say on the package or on the company's website).
 

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I wish I could take credit! I saw the recipe on the VeganYumYum.com blog (looks dead, hasn't been posted to in years, but has lots on there nonetheless.) It's incredibly delicious. I added edamame beans, mushrooms, spinach, green onions, and chopped broccoli to the pasta. (All raw, mostly because I was being lazy, but now I think I like it better than if I'd cooked the veggies! Well, the edamames are cooked.)<br><br>
I'll put those on my list of things to try! I hope I can find them. I've never seen them where I shop, but then, I've never looked, either!
 

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fruits & vegetables are better sources of carbohydrates, protein, and fats than grains, if you look at the micronutrients, but it's okay to include some grains. try to eat more greens for nutrition.</div>
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It's not that I don't eat greens - I eat a lot of fruits and veggies - but if that's all I have, without some sort of "filler" I get hungry not very long after I eat.
 

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Ok - it seems like most recipes I see call for nutritional yeast.<br><br>
Uh...where do you get this stuff?
 

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It's not that I don't eat greens - I eat a lot of fruits and veggies - but if that's all I have, without some sort of "filler" I get hungry not very long after I eat.</div>
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Then you eat again. It's not uncommon for me to eat every 2 hours during the day. Or have a green smoothie. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Nutritional yeast is in the bulk aisle at any natural food store. If there isn't one near you, you may have to order online.<br><br>
"Carbs=bad" may be oversold, but I know I personally begin to feel really bogged down if bread/pasta becomes the focal point of my meals for more than a day or two.<br><br>
Even though I love food and yearn to cook, I can definitely settle into 'eating to live'. A simple smoothie for breakfast, lentils in broth for lunch and a huge salad for dinner while snacking on raw almonds all day in between.
 

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I guess I really need to break out of the mindset of "I need to eat a few main meals a day to keep me full for hours" and focus more on eating until I'm satisfied, not until I finish what I put on my plate...and just eating again if I'm still hungry.<br><br>
Hmm, I can think of one store that may have nutritional yeast - if not I'll probably have to order online. (Alabama is not a haven of natural food stores, sadly.)
 

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Per a quick Google search, there's a Whole Foods in Birmingham; an Organic Harvest Market in Vestavia Hills; and a Healthwise Foods in Montgomery. Might be out of luck if you live far from the two big cities, though.
 

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I love pasta, and we eat it all the time. Still, I probably eat more rice, brown and white and wild etc, quinoa, than I do pasta. And it does help to have something filling with anything like that. Some crumbled vegan burgers or chikken shreds would be good in a sauce with pasta. I make a really easy one with the vegan boca burger (or the chikken) fried and then broken up and added to a tomato sauce just before serving, kind of spicy sauce with onions peppers,and mushrooms. That with bread, warm olive oil spiced drizzled on it, and maybe spinach salad with little orange pieces and croutons. Like someone mentioned above, some fat and protein can make you feel fuller for longer. I think fats are responsible for that satisfied, full feeling after meals. Avocado (guacamole is fantastic on just about any sandwich I can think of in place of mayo), hummus and baba ganoush, too. Toasted nuts like almonds are great with cooked vegetables. Recipes using milks like coconut or almond can taste rich, too. And some kind of dessert, a treat for the mouth at the end.<br><br>
I am making a stew tonight, this African peanut sweet potato one I haven't made yet; it's getting "cold" (50s), so I want something like that. With some warm bread and olive oil. And I am making banana bread with lots of walnuts and other dried fruits too. I would love apple pie, since I've had some really good apples lately, but I fail at pie baking :/<br><br>
Good luck, I am really hungry after reading this thread! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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pasta is fine, the whole wheat kind is more filling. rice and grains are good to have regularly too, brown rice is more filling. potatoes have a high satiety level, meaning they keep you feeling full longer, a simple baked potato with some spices or salsa on top is a great snack of meal. baked sweet potatoes/yams are also a filling simple snack or meal
 

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I am a pasta fiend. I eat a lot of it. <a href="http://www.racconto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=82" target="_blank">This</a> is the only kind I buy, though - 8 whole grains, lots of protein. They make penne, spaghetti, linguine, rigatoni, shells - pretty much anything you could want.<br><br>
It's definitely not as good as traditional pasta, but it's super healthy. And definitely the best of the whole grain stuff out there.
 

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I LOVE African sweet potato peanut stew....great on cool days!
 

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Per a quick Google search, there's a Whole Foods in Birmingham; an Organic Harvest Market in Vestavia Hills; and a Healthwise Foods in Montgomery. Might be out of luck if you live far from the two big cities, though.</div>
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I live in Birmingham - I don't know why I didn't think of Whole Foods. Possibly because it's usually so out of my budget it may as well not exist. :p I was thinking of a little locally owned place downtown - I'll probably try there first anyways, shopping local makes my heart happy.<br><br>
@Ledboots - Your post made me hungry, too! That's saying something, because I just woke up and I never even want to think about food until I've had a few hours to shake myself awake.<br><br>
@Herbivorous - That sounds perfect for my pasta craving and my desire to actually be healthy! I'll look for it when I shop for the nutritional yeast.
 

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Are you eating protein at every meal? Carbs aren't bad, but you should also make sure you're having protein throughout the day which will also help keep you full.
 
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