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<div class="quote-block">Recently, it seems like every week another claim surfaces that a server at a chain restaurant has flubbed a drink order and served a child booze. Signs of an overly litigious culture? Honest mistakes by servers? Irresponsible management on the restaurants' end?<br><br>
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2006: Cynthia Pereles sues Applebee's in New York City for allegedly serving her five-year-old a sippy cup of Long Island Iced Tea instead of apple juice in July '05.<br><br>
2007: Police say an Applebee's in Antioch, California, served a two-year-old a margarita instead of apple juice in a sippy cup. AP reports that "An Applebee's vice president says the restaurant keeps apple juice and the premixed margarita concoction in identical-looking plastic bottles on ice behind the bar."<br><br>
(more)<br><br><a href="http://www.chow.com/food-news/79456/toddlers-served-liquor-in-chain-restaurants-a-timeline/" target="_blank">http://www.chow.com/food-news/79456/...ts-a-timeline/</a></div>
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Honest mistake, severe negligence, or looking for a free handout? Discuss.<br><br><br>
The latest one, it seems like it might have been an error made by the parent: <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20055285-504083.html" target="_blank">http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_1...85-504083.html</a><br><br>
Makes you wonder about the rest.
 

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I have a hard time imagining that a young child would drink enough alcohol to actually harm themselves. To little kids, anything stronger than beer generally tastes awful, and most kids are averse to the taste of something unfamiliar. The story you linked to, about the Chili's, certainly sounds fishy. What parent would react by immediately calling the police?
 

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2011: Heather becomes a waitress. Incidents in Southern California skyrocket.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mlp</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2872217"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I have a hard time imagining that a young child would drink enough alcohol to actually harm themselves. To little kids, anything stronger than beer generally tastes awful, and most kids are averse to the taste of something unfamiliar.</div>
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I'm 33 yrs old and have always found alcohol in any form of drink totally disgusting and revolting. In the past when I tried to drink, I never once finished an entire glass or bottle of any alcoholic beverage. No matter how sweet it was or how little alcohol was it I could still taste it and be repulsed. So yeah it boggles my mind how a child would be able to tolerate it.<br><br>
But...how many times as veg*ns have we been served the wrong meal? How many times have we "accidently" been served meat, dairy, or other animal ingredients when we orderered and requested our meals? So I can see how it's possible.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>saxyphonist</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2872266"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
2011: Heather becomes a waitress. Incidents in Southern California skyrocket.</div>
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The right to hold businesses and individuals accountable by suing in civil court without limits imposed outside of the court system is a necessary check against abuses, whether they be honest mistakes or gross negligence.
 

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The reaction is stupid because the incident was one in a million, but the child did come very close to dying of alcohol poisoning. From another story about the incident:<br><br>
“Doctors told the parents if the boy had drank any more of the alcoholic beverage, he could have died. WJBK-TV reports Dominic the child’s blood alcohol level was .10 percent. That’s over the legal limit for an adult driver.”<br><br>
What I don’t understand is why anyone would want to eat at Applebee’s in the first place.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mlp</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2872217"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I have a hard time imagining that a young child would drink enough alcohol to actually harm themselves. To little kids, anything stronger than beer generally tastes awful, and most kids are averse to the taste of something unfamiliar. The story you linked to, about the Chili's, certainly sounds fishy. What parent would react by immediately calling the police?</div>
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Most kids I know like the taste of hard lemonade and margaritas. On a family trip, a 4 year old drank her mother's hard lemonade and then had a nice nap.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>saxyphonist</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2872266"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
2011: Heather becomes a waitress. Incidents in Southern California skyrocket.</div>
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<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:"> No, our kids drinks are served in Kids Klub cups and our juices are kept in their original bottles, so I would have to be a complete idiot to mix that up <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Lucky</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2872314"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
The right to hold businesses and individuals accountable by suing in civil court without limits imposed outside of the court system is a necessary check against abuses, whether they be honest mistakes or gross negligence.</div>
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Do you think it's possible that there wasn't a mix-up in every case and the parents could have added the alcohol to create a lawsuit? Or the parent accidentally gave the child drinks and wanted to sue the companies for money?<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>zingypeppers</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2872317"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
The reaction is stupid because the incident was one in a million, but the child did come very close to dying of alcohol poisoning. From another story about the incident:<br><br>
“Doctors told the parents if the boy had drank any more of the alcoholic beverage, he could have died. WJBK-TV reports Dominic the child’s blood alcohol level was .10 percent. That’s over the legal limit for an adult driver.”<br><br>
What I don’t understand is why anyone would want to eat at Applebee’s in the first place.</div>
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I'm surprised the kid didn't get sleepy and stop drinking.<br><br>
Last part? Truth.
 

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I have a hard time imagining that a young child would drink enough alcohol to actually harm themselves.</div>
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I can see why you might think that way but it's not at all true. Lots of children drink or eat lots of poisonous things regardless of how familiar they are with the taste or even if they like the taste. Many babies and toddlers must be constantly supervised to prevent them from injesting harmful substances.<br><br>
Long Island Iced Teas are very sweet. I have no doubt that many children would drink one up without a second thought.<br><br>
I suspect these incidents happen all the time and they're just recently getting more than average news media attention.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>ElaineV</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2872421"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I can see why you might think that way but it's not at all true. Lots of children drink or eat lots of poisonous things regardless of how familiar they are with the taste or even if they like the taste. Many babies and toddlers must be constantly supervised to prevent them from injesting harmful substances.<br><br>
Long Island Iced Teas are very sweet. I have no doubt that many children would drink one up without a second thought.<br><br>
I suspect these incidents happen all the time and they're just recently getting more than average news media attention.</div>
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Sure, they ingest all kinds of stuff out of curiosity. There's a reason why one puts cleaning products, etc., out of the reach of small children. But those are the kinds of substances where a tiny amount can cause great harm. A couple of swallows of a mixed drink, OTOH, isn't going to cause major harm. A child is going to have to actively like the taste in order to drink enough to be harmful; that, or be coaxed into it. And most small children don't like the taste of hard liquor, no matter how sweetened it is.<br><br>
Yes, I think screw ups happen. I also think that, when there multiple incidents that hit the news in a short period of time, it usually turns out that some of them are manufactured. Some years ago, someone found part of a finger in his meal. In subsequent months, a number of other diners *found* parts of fingers in their meals.
 

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These seem like a few freak accidents. I'm sure there's statistics regarding parents who accidentally feed their kids alcohol, too.
 

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****, long islands knock <i>me</i> on my ass and I'm 24 years old! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:"> Hard lemonades and other alchopops....not so much.<br><br>
I personally think the lady who sued the restaurant after her kid had 2 sips of a mudslide was looking for a lawsuit.
 

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Yeah, Long Islands are deceptive. OTOH, they look like iced tea, and what parent is ordering iced tea for their toddler? I would certainly notice if someone put something that looked like ice tea in front of a child I had taken out for a meal.
 

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Yeah, Long Islands are deceptive. OTOH, they look like iced tea, and what parent is ordering iced tea for their toddler? I would certainly notice if someone put something that looked like ice tea in front of a child I had taken out for a meal.</div>
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The more I read about the most recent one, the more "fishy" it sounds:<br><br><a href="http://consumerist.com/2011/04/family-claims-4-year-old-served-boozy-mudslide-instead-of-milkshake-at-chilis.html" target="_blank">http://consumerist.com/2011/04/famil...at-chilis.html</a><br><br><br>
People who work at Chili's are saying that there's no way the two can be mixed up, as they come from different sections of the restaurant. So it's not like a mudslide was served in a milkshake cup. I'm curious to know if the Mom had ordered a Mudslide drink or if the drink had been dropped off at the table by accident. Either way, I fail to see how the MOM could have mistaken the alcoholic drink for a shake, they don't look alike.
 

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What parent is ordering iced tea for their toddler? I take it, you have never visited The South? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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The more I read about the most recent one, the more "fishy" it sounds:<br><br><a href="http://consumerist.com/2011/04/family-claims-4-year-old-served-boozy-mudslide-instead-of-milkshake-at-chilis.html" target="_blank">http://consumerist.com/2011/04/famil...at-chilis.html</a><br><br><br>
People who work at Chili's are saying that there's no way the two can be mixed up, as they come from different sections of the restaurant. So it's not like a mudslide was served in a milkshake cup. I'm curious to know if the Mom had ordered a Mudslide drink or if the drink had been dropped off at the table by accident. Either way, I fail to see how the MOM could have mistaken the alcoholic drink for a shake, they don't look alike.</div>
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One of the articles cited earlier says that Chili's issued a statement that the mother infact ordered a mudslide for herself and a juice for the child, and that the mudslide was placed in front of her and the juice was placed in front of the child.
 

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What boggles my mind is... the drinks never look similar! Margarita mix is green, apple juice is not. Long Island Iced Tea does not look like apple juice. Sangria doesn't look like orange juice (although if I'm remembering right, OG kid comes aren't clear). As a server, I can tell the difference between most sodas just by looking at them. They smell different too (Coke vs Diet vs Mr. Pibb vs Root Beer). I fail to see how the server OR parent wouldn't have noticed.
 

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Sangria:<br><br><img alt="" src="http://www.easyveganmeals.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/sangria.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br>
OJ:<br><br><img alt="" src="http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn89/3cynthi3/orange_juice.jpg" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><br>
Biggest contrast. The others are easy to see too.
 

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Yeah, Long Islands are deceptive. OTOH, they look like iced tea, and what parent is ordering iced tea for their toddler? I would certainly notice if someone put something that looked like ice tea in front of a child I had taken out for a meal.</div>
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Deceptively AWESOME!<br><br>
((Again, I still the Mudslide lady was a former ambulance-chaser, the rest of the babies with booze stories can be attributed to lax on the parental end and crappy wait staff. Why doesn't this happen to the 18 or 19 year-olds who are using fake IDs to get drinks?! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:"> Oh the humanity))
 
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