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Are your parents veg*n?<br><br>
Do you share your parents' views on the following:<br><br>
Abortion<br><br>
Death penalty<br><br>
Homosexuality<br><br>
Gay marriage<br><br>
Religion<br><br>
AR<br><br>
Monogamy<br><br>
Social welfare programs<br><br>
Interracial relationships<br><br>
Anything else that you think is relevant.<br><br>
ETA: To the extent your values differ from those of your parents, when did your views start to diverge?
 

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My parents are about as far from being vegan as you can get.<br><br>
I don't share their views on anything listed.<br><br>
My views started to diverge when I went to college (age 18).<br><br>
However...my sister has the same views and values as my parents. She isn't much of a free-thinker, though. She pretty much just does what people tell her to do and doesn't question it.
 

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Not really. Time for a list.<br><br>
I'm vegan, they're meat whores, though they have been eating less, they're down to chicken and fish I believe, and not every meal as they used to.<br><br>
Abortion:<br>
Me - against<br>
them - for<br><br>
Death penalty:<br>
Me - against<br>
them -for<br><br>
Homosexuality<br>
M - support<br>
T - don't support<br><br>
Gay marriage<br>
M - support<br>
T - don't support<br><br>
Religion<br>
M -Taoist<br>
T - Christian but not really.<br><br>
Monogamy<br>
we agree!<br><br>
Social welfare programs<br>
we agree!<br><br>
Interracial relationships<br>
both: why on earth would race matter? :/<br><br>
What about you, mlp?
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mlp</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2877412"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Are your parents veg*n?<br><br>
Do you share your parents' views on the following:<br><br>
Abortion<br><br>
Death penalty<br><br>
Homosexuality<br><br>
Gay marriage<br><br>
Religion<br><br>
AR<br><br>
Monogamy<br><br>
Social welfare programs<br><br>
Interracial relationships<br><br>
Anything else that you think is relevant.<br><br>
ETA: To the extent your values differ from those of your parents, when did your views start to diverge?</div>
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With the exception of social welfare programs and interracial relationships, I hold the exact opposite position on them. I was raised in a very religious (it's a cult) household, but never truly bought into any of it. I would say I formed most of opinions at around 12 years old, but I did not totally rid myself of the cognitive dissonance until I was about 22. I left home at 19 (and the JWs), in a dramatic fashion, but didn't have the courage to take a firm pro-choice, vegan, out bisexual, and radical feminist until I was well into my twenties. My mother and I do not have a relationship, but she would fall over dead if she knew who I was now.
 

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No on all accounts. They are Rush Limbaugh Republicans.
 

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<blockquote></blockquote><b>Are your parents veg*n?</b><br><br>
No, they weren't. My being veg*n was not an issue for my father, but it was for my mother. She saw anything in which I differed from her as a sign of disrespect.<br><br>
Do you share your parents' views on the following:<br><br><b>Abortion</b><br>
<blockquote><p>No - I'm pro choice; they were very much against abortion rights.<br><br></p></blockquote><b>Death penalty</b><br><br>
I'm against, they were pro.<br><br><b>Homosexuality and gay marriage</b><br>
<blockquote><p>I don't think I ever discussed it with my father, but my mother was very outspoken in her negative views.<br><br></p></blockquote><b>Religion</b><br><br>
They would have thought I was going to hell; I never told them that I didn't believe in God.<br><br><b>AR</b><br>
<blockquote><p>My father had an instinctive liking for animals, but his approach to them was very much a farmer's approach. I'm sure he never thought of the dissonance. My mother liked the wild song birds and rabbits and squirrels, but that was it. She could be downright cruel/abusive to other animals - she took everything personally. If she tripped over a barn cat, that cat "did it on purpose" and would pay for it.<br><br></p></blockquote><b>Monogamy</b><br>
<blockquote><p>Lip service from my mother, but not the way she lived her life.<br><br></p></blockquote><b>Social welfare programs</b><br>
<blockquote><p>Pretty much agreed<br><br></p></blockquote><b>Interracial relationships</b><br>
<blockquote><p>I think my father would have adjusted if one of us had gotten involved with someone of another race. My mother, OTOH, never got over the fact that my ex husband came from Greek heritage.<br><br>
Anything else that you think is relevant.<br><br>
ETA: </p></blockquote><b>To the extent your values differ from those of your parents, when did your views start to diverge?</b><br><br>
Early, with the differences pretty well cemented by the time I was in sixth grade. (Other than going veg*n - that happened much later.)<br><br>
ETA: Strangely enough, despite her views on interracial relationships, homosexuality, etc., my mother tended to side with the underdog, and that's a value I think I absorbed from her. And both of my parents viewed the love of money as a negative trait, which I tend to do also.<br>
 

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My parents aren't veg*n, but I'm definitely an influence to my mom.<br><br>
I don't know about our opinions on most of these, but we agree on homosexuality and gay marriage (one of her brothers (my uncle) and cousins (my second cousin?) is gay, also) and interracial marriages.<br><br>
When I was 13 I started to actually think about, not so much religion but just the whole "god" being. I came up with some idea that our lives are just scripts (and that's all I really remember and can't recall anything other than those words). When I first started voicing my opinions about there not being a god, I distinctly remember one particular incident where she was offended that I didn't believe in god. Both of my sisters felt offended as well. But over a short amount of time I saw my mom and sisters change their views and I believe it's safe to say we're all atheists now. I definitely feel responsible for that one. My mom went to Catholic school and my youngest sister went to a preschool that was attached to a church, so they had religious things going on in their life that my other sister and I didn't have. Last year I had found this one cut out pumpkin my youngest sister made from back then. On one side it said "Love Katie To Jesus". It's really funny now and we joke about it, and you can definitely see that they talked about religion to the preschoolers.<br><br>
Animal rights not really, but my mom is definitely pro animal welfare now. I see her posting things on Facebook related to it. She recently tagged one of her friends in a link to a video about veal since he eats it. He replied something along the lines of "I know it's horrible but it's damn tasty" and she responded "Shame". I get a giddy feeling when I see her talking about it. She also "liked" a bunch of vegan-related pages on Facebook. (Also when she picked me up from my internship at Farm Sanctuary, I gave her a tour and we met most of the animals. I like to think that made a further impression on her.)<br><br>
The rest I don't really know about, but I'm sure for a couple we both have a "no opinion". I don't believe a lot of our opinions are extrememly different, but I also just don't know.
 

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Are your parents veg*n? Nope.<br><br>
Abortion? I don't know, she refuses to tell me. (I'm pro-life)<br><br>
Death penalty? I think we're both opposed.<br><br>
Homosexuality? I'm not positive. She says she's for gay rights, but doesn't really act like it.<br><br>
Gay marriage? ^^Look above.<br><br>
Religion? We're both Christian, but other than that, not at all.<br><br>
AR? No. She gets really angry whenever I bring it up and says I'm forcing my believes on everyone.<br><br>
Monogamy? Probably. I think she's for it, too.<br><br>
Social welfare programs? Definitely. We'd probably be in a homeless shelter without them.<br><br>
Interracial relationships? Yup. At least I hope so.
 

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Are your parents veg*n? No. My mother was at one point and I think she agrees with the basic ethics of it but when I've pressed the issue that her life is too stressful to worry about animal issues. She gets defensive when it comes up so I think she feels guilty about it. Hopefully she'll come around eventually, when she's mentally in a better place.<br><br>
Abortion: yes, we're both pro-choice.<br><br>
Death penalty: yes, we're both opposed.<br><br>
Homosexuality: yes, we're both very accepting of it.<br><br>
Gay marriage: yes, we're both in support.<br><br>
Religion: yes, we're atheists.<br><br>
AR: no, she does not think that animals have the value I ascribe to them and she does not think they deserve rights.<br><br>
Monogamy: not sure. We haven't discussed this at length. She's rightfully distrustful of polygamy in the context of traditional patriarchal societies but I've never asked her what she thinks of more equal and modern polyamory.<br><br>
Social welfare programs: we're both in support of more government aid for the needy, including health care reform.<br><br>
Interracial relationships: we're both okay with them.
 

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I guess I do have a lot of their values. My mother enjoys taking care of things and people, so this extends to pets, so even though she is an omni, it is probably her I got my veg ideas from..<br><br>
They believe in justice and behaving in an ethical manner, as do I. They also believe in an eye for an eye. I dont believe that as much as them, the revenge bit.<br><br>
They believe in standing up for someone who is being bullied, even if it means annoying people you wish to have like you, and I get that from them.<br><br>
They dont like wars and guns, though they like reading historical novels with war in them sometimes. I am the same though even more sensitive.<br><br>
They are not really as interested in nature as me though, and they are a bit more right wing.
 

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<i>Do you share your parents' views on the following:<br><br>
Abortion</i><br>
Them:<br>
Pro life (except for rape I think)<br>
Me: Pro choice<br><br><i>Death penalty</i><br>
Them: For<br>
Me: Against<br><br><i>Homosexuality</i><br>
Them: Old fashioned and homophobic but not super hateful about it at least. One of my best friends is gay and they just don't "get it", they are convinced he's been pretending to be gay for years just to sleep with me... Yeah, logic... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br>
Me: Totally hip<br><i><br>
Gay marriage</i><br>
Them: "Why do they have to call it marriage?"<br>
Me: For<br><i><br>
Religion</i><br>
Them: Roman Catholic<br>
Me: Atheist<br><i><br>
AR</i><br>
Them: Meat eaters who are understanding enough to buy soy milk<br>
Me: Vegan<br><br><i>Monogamy</i><br>
Them: For in theory. But I know my Mom has cheated and I wouldn't be surprised about my dad or step-dad.<br>
Me: A big fan personally but people can do what they want (if it's all 100% consensual of course)<br><br><i>Social welfare programs</i><br>
Them: For<br>
Me: For (We're Canadian!)<br><i><br>
Interracial relationships</i><br>
Them: They think it should be legal but is a bad idea and causes 'problems'... All three are a little racist, it sucks.<br>
Me: Aware it's 2011 <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br><i>Anything else that you think is relevant.</i><br>
My parents and I disagree on a lot but I have to give them credit, I do feel they instilled a lot of great values in me in spite of it all.<br><br>
Good values they passed on:<br>
- The importance of cleanliness<br>
- Being careful with money<br>
- Giving back what you get (thank you notes, gifts, respect, love, etc.)<br>
- Generosity<br>
- The importance of basic manners and politeness<br>
- Critical thinking skills (mostly from my dad, and maybe that isn't a value but it really should be)<br>
- A love for fairness and justice (which lead to me going vegan of course, but the whole animals have feelings too thing hasn't quite 'clicked' yet <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">)<br><br><br><i>ETA: To the extent your values differ from those of your parents, when did your views start to diverge?</i><br>
Pretty much from the moment I was able to talk and think for myself I started forming my own very different opinions. I was always super independent at a very young age after some incidents involving nail clippers and car doors, it became clear I had to trust myself most and do things myself as much as I could.<br><br>
My mom put me in Catechism (Sunday School for the non-Catholics) when I was 7 and I decided I didn't believe any of it when my teachers couldn't answer my questions, I didn't know the word atheist yet but I figured it out later. I became a vegetarian at 13 after seeing Meet Your Meat and I've pretty much been becoming more confusing to them ever since <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br>
Edit: How did that get so long?! Whoops...
 

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Are your parents veg*n? No<br><br><br>
Abortion<br>
Me - Against<br>
Them - Against<br><br>
Death penalty<br>
Me - For to an extent<br>
Them - for<br><br>
Homosexuality<br>
Me - I support whatever anyone else wants to do that makes them happy. I have a lesbian cousin and childhood friend who came out a couple years ago, and is still one of my closest friends, we have rules though, he cant talk his boyfriends with me :p<br>
Dad - I am pretty sure is completely Homophobic<br>
Mom - She only speaks privately about what she thinks of gays... She believes its a sin, but shes real nice in person with my friend and cousin.<br><br>
Gay marriage<br>
Me - Let people do what they want to do... The Government should allow it, it seems to show that America isn't separated from church and state like it should be.<br>
Parents - I know they are against it.<br><br>
Religion<br>
Me - I assume I am Agnostic, I go to Unitarian Universal Church when I am able to wake up early enough :p<br>
Mom - Hardcore Southern Baptist (Sunday School Teacher)<br>
Dad - I think if I asked my dad.... He might say Nature is religion but he shares a lot of christian views.<br><br>
Monogamy -<br>
Me - All for it<br>
Parents - Umm far as I know I dont think they ever cheated on each other... but I did hear my mom cheated on my dad, but I never asked nor will I ever.<br><br>
Social welfare programs<br>
Me - I am really on the fence about the healthcare... But I am pretty sure change is needed.<br>
Mom - My mom is a nurse and Republican... she is very out spoken about obama's health care plan... she says its a socialist plan is goes against all American values.<br>
Dad - I think his only welfare program he believes in... is when he buys the homeless a 40oz.<br><br>
Interracial relationships<br>
Me - I can care less what other people do.... color of their skin should not matter. On the other hand I really only look for Women of my race, maybe I am a hypocrite. I think if I met a woman of another race that amazed and wowed me it wouldn't be a problem but she better be something special considering all the crap I gonna get from my family.<br>
Mom - She doesn't care... but I think she frowns on it though.<br>
Dad - Ummm hes one step away from being in the KKK I believe.<br><br>
The War on Drugs<br>
Me - I am all for reform, the declared war on drugs hasn't worked, thousands die every year due to this countries underground market and even more die in other countries by the cartels and other organizations it supports. On top of that one simple drug charge can ruin someones life, people are serving life sentences for a plant.... I can go on and on<br>
Mom - If its against the law its against the law for a reason.<br>
Dad - For Reform for all the wrong reasons I think<br><br><br>
I was about 14, when I started to think for myself I think. It started with the obvious music and cloths and spread into ideas. A lot of my values differ from my dad so much I don't think we have had an actual conversation in over 10 years, but truth is he inspired me a lot with his beliefs in Nature and our purpose on earth but the ideas he inspired me with still differ a lot from what I made them into.
 

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Aside from the list, I think that my parents actually instilled in me a healthy disrespect for authority figures, especially politicians, thought a lot of that comes from where I grew up as well. Their commentary on the police and politicians, though, definitely led me to where I am today, not that they are in any way anarchists XD<br><br>
Are your parents veg*n?<br><i>No</i><br><br>
Do you share your parents' views on the following:<br><br>
Abortion<br><i>Tricky one, I don't think we've really discussed it. I think they're generally pro-choice, but aren't exactly cheerleaders for it, like all parents they'd prefer people were just sensible :p</i><br><br>
Death penalty<br><i>They think paedophiles should be killed without trial... I don't agree at all with killing someone unless I was to do it myself and accept responsibility for what I had done in turn</i><br><br>
Homosexuality<br><i>They're cool with it, my best friend is gay. They make the odd joke about the likes of Graham Norton, but he's just annoying anyway</i><br><br>
Gay marriage<br><i>I don't think they really care, it doesn't affect them so they can run with it, I have marched for it before...</i><br><br>
Religion<br><i>Mum is agnostic, Dad is atheist, I am wobbling between the two</i><br><br>
AR<br><i>We always got free range eggs and I got shouted at as a kid for choosing the caged ones, but that's about as far as it extends</i><br><br>
Monogamy<br><i>'Play the field before you settle down' - they seem to be happy with whatever I do</i><br><br>
Social welfare programs<br><i>They think that it forms a lumpen class and that all the paperwork blocks people that really need it, I half agree, but I know a lot of people that benefit from it</i><br><br>
Interracial relationships<br><i>I don't think they really care, there's not many black people where I come from so they might be shocked if I came home with a black gf, but it'd be the likelihood not the race that they'd be shocked by</i><br><br>
Anything else that you think is relevant.<br><i>I think generally I am a little more socially minded and optimistic than them, something I think that they encouraged. Also, I am a lot less liberal on drugs and alcohol than them</i><br><br>
ETA: To the extent your values differ from those of your parents, when did your views start to diverge?<br><br>
We mesh up, but I tend to be more active and extreme, and talk about my views and try to take action. I think they diverged when I was a teen, but more and more over time as I meet interesting activisty people.
 

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Are your parents veg*n? As everyone is probably sick of me saying, yes.<br><br>
Do you share your parents' views on the following:<br><br>
Abortion- yup, we are all pro choice<br><br>
Death penalty- yes we are all against<br><br>
Homosexuality- ish. My parents believe in people doing what they want but my dad gets annoyed with overtly camp men (like on America's Next Top Model) although to be fair most of the people on that show are annoying. My mum is cool with gay men, but she got freaked out when Sophie and Sian were about to sleep together on Coronation St. She says she's fine with it but doesn't really want to watch a (very tame) lesbian sex scene. I am 100% cool with people being how they want to be/ are.<br><br>
Gay marriage- yes we all agree with it.<br><br>
Religion- my dad is atheist, my mum is Christian-ish. I used to be Christian-ish too but now I am agnostic. (Christian-ish is where you sort of believe in God and the Bible etc but you don't go to church or ever mention it or even know much about it.)<br><br>
AR- my dad and I agree. My mum is more welfarist than abolitionist.<br><br>
Monogamy- yes all agree (I don't really have an opinion on polyamory but we all believe that infidelity is wrong)<br><br>
Social welfare programs- we are all quite socialist, me a bit more so. We believe in redistribution of wealth so that nobody is trapped in poverty.<br><br>
Interracial relationships- don't see why anyone could have an issue with this unless they are racist. We have never discussed it as it is not something any of us would even consider an issue.<br><br>
Anything else that you think is relevant.<br><br>
Environment- we are all very green, and my parents taught me about recycling, energy efficiency, etc and subscribed to friend's of the earth long before caring about the environment was cool. We have only ever have one car and I would like to be able to do the same with my family.<br><br>
Human Rights- we all believe human rights are very important but I am more focused on this through my studies and career.<br><br>
Immigration- I am a bit more liberal on the immigration front than my parents, but they are coming round to my way of thinking.
 

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Neither of my parents is vegetarian or vegan. I know my Dad had an issue with me dating black boys when I was younger which explained why I ended up with quite a few black boyfriends as a rebellion.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> My Mum is a feminist and they are both quite left wing politically so that must have been an influence on me. I am not sure but I think they are both agnostic or atheist. I don't really know their views on a lot of those issues as we don't have contact now.
 

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I'll use my mom since I lived with her my whole life and only lived with my dad til age 5. My dad and I only talk about twice a year.<br><br>
My mom and I agree on all the issues in the original post, at least at the level of whether they should be legal or not. We're both very liberal. We have some different opinions on this or that topic, but it's usually just minor disagreements.
 

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My Mum and I share views on pretty much everything, but my father is what we like to call a "fauxgressive"-against women's rights, against immigration, against affirmative action, etc. but he calls himself liberal because he doesn't hate gay people, and is slightly less conservative than the other middle-aged straight cisgendered white guys he knows.
 

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<b>Abortion</b><br><br>
Me- against (though I think there needs to be social programs in place so that women can take care of their children they might not be able to take care of)<br>
Parents- against (on principle)<br><b><br>
Death penalty</b><br><br>
Me-against<br>
Parents- against<br><b><br>
Homosexuality</b><br><br>
Me- for<br>
Parents- for<br><br><b>Gay marriage</b><br><br>
Me- for<br>
Parents- against<br><br><b>Religion</b><br><br>
Me- Christian (liberal)<br>
Parents- Christian (more conservative)<br><br><b>AR</b><br><br>
Me- for<br>
Parents- doesn't even register<br><b><br>
Monogamy</b><br><br>
Me- for, though I don't limit myself to other models<br>
Parents- completely for, only monogamy<br><br><b>Social welfare programs</b><br><br>
Me- for<br>
Parents- for<br><br><b>Interracial relationships</b><br><br>
Me- for<br>
Parents- for<br><br><b>Drug Reform</b><br><br>
Me- for<br>
Parents- probably doesn't register<br><br><b>Agricultural reform</b><br><br>
Me- for<br>
Parents- for
 

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Are your parents veg*n? - no<br><br>
Do you share your parents' views on the following:<br><br>
Abortion - I'm pro-choice, my mom is pro-life, I don't know about my dad.<br><br>
Death penalty - For me it depends. If they're 100% positive they have the right person, go ahead and kill 'em. My parents are the same way.<br><br>
Homosexuality - I'm straight myself, but I love gay people and think they should have the same rights and should be able to marry if they choose. Both my parents think they shouldn't be allowed to marry.<br><br>
Gay marriage - See above<br><br>
Religion - I'm atheist, they're both catholics<br><br>
AR - My mom and I both support animal rights although she's not veg*n, and my dad doesn't care<br><br>
Monogamy - Not sure, they both claimed the other cheated during their marriage<br><br>
Social welfare programs - They both think that instead of just giving money to the poor, they should help them find jobs and temporarily give them money until they get back on their feet. They hate that "all their money is going to the lazy". I guess I'm the same, never really thought about it<br><br>
Interracial relationships - my parents both seemed to really be against it for some reason. Like gay marriage, I don't care what other people do<br><br>
Anything else that you think is relevant.
 

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I don't know my father's views on these things so I will just answer about my mum.<br><br>
I think I've influenced her in the last few years. She was very intolerant of interracial relationships when I was young, and my brother was so nervous about it that he asked her permission to date a *Spanish* girl. But as I went more liberal I started challenging some of her views in a nice way and now she is so much more tolerant on a lot of issues. I'm pretty sure she suspected I was gay for many years and she made little hints that it was ok and I could tell her. When I showed her a picture of my Indian fiancé for the first time all she said was "he looks nice, gentle" and was perfectly supportive and nice to him when they met.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><b><span>Quote:</span></b>
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Are your parents veg*n?<br><br>
No<br><br>
Do you share your parents' views on the following:<br><br>
Abortion<br><br>
No. I think she would support me if I wanted to get one though.<br><br>
Death penalty<br><br>
No, she's a fan of revenge punishments like cutting off the balls of male paedophiles.<br><br>
Homosexuality<br><br>
Kind of, she doesn't understand it but she's not like GAYS ARE EVIL and she doesn't want to deny gay people rights.<br><br>
Gay marriage<br><br>
Same as above.<br><br>
Religion</b></div>
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No<br><br><b>AR</b><br><br>
No<br><br><b>Monogamy</b><br><br>
Yes<br><br><b>Social welfare programs</b><br><br>
Some, not all. For example she is against giving benefits to immigrants.<br><br><b>Interracial relationships</b><br><br>
She used to be against them and told my brother and I we shouldn't have them. But I told her I wanted to marry an Indian man and she was supportive.<br><br>
Anything else that you think is relevant.<br><br>
Immigration is another area, but again I think she has changed some of her views.<br><br>
ETA: To the extent your values differ from those of your parents, when did your views start to diverge?</div>
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I echoed some pretty bigoted views until I was about 17/18, around the same time I went vegetarian. I started educating myself a little more. At first I was annoyed at the things I was reading, all the political correctness GONE MAD! but then I realised I was ignorant and annoyed that my privilege was being challenged. So I went very liberal.
 
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