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Hello all, I am a relatively new vegetarian. I have been hearing a lot of conflicting reports on and about the health benefits and dangers of eating soy.<br><br><br><br>
I use soy milk and soy cheese as well as a few meat replacements (veggieburgers, veggie sausage, and so forth). I am now a little concerned based on the research I have done where I have found many articles claiming that soy products are unhealthy.<br><br><br><br>
So, I'm asking all you experienced vegetarians/vegans out there for your take on this dilemma. Any info would be appreciated.
 

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yes, a lot of the research on soy is a bit scary. Personally, I don't feel my best when I consume soy so I try to a void using it whenever possible. You can replace soy milk with rice, almond, or even coconut milk.<br><br><br><br>
It seems like you are using transitional foods heavily. With some time, soy burgers aren't going to sound nowhere near as appetizing as a veggie burger (ie. mushrooms, beans, etc)<br><br><br><br>
Just know that soy isn't the only alternative to meat. There's a HUGE variety out there, try experimenting with different cuisine and you'll see that.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Odalys</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
yes, a lot of the research on soy is a bit scary. Personally, I don't feel my best when I consume soy so I try to a void using it whenever possible. You can replace soy milk with rice, almond, or even coconut milk.<br><br><br><br>
It seems like you are using transitional foods heavily. With some time, soy burgers aren't going to sound nowhere near as appetizing as a veggie burger (ie. mushrooms, beans, etc)<br><br><br><br>
Just know that soy isn't the only alternative to meat. There's a HUGE variety out there, try experimenting with different cuisine and you'll see that.</div>
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Couldn't have said it better myself! Anything soy related gives me tummy problems as well, *UNLESS* of course it's REAL soybeans and for some reason they don't bother me???<br><br><br><br>
Anywho, as for the fake meats, *most* new vegheads have transitioned using them, they really do help to get over those "humps". <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> I no longer use any of the meat subs. and don't miss them at all, but while transitioning they really did help.<br><br><br><br>
As for being concerned with eating soy, I've also read alot of things online for & against it. I say, use your own common sense and everything in moderation.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rockon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rockon:"><br><br><br><br>
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There are mixed reviews on soy out there. My opinion is that like all foods, it should be consumed in moderation. Just like you shouldn't eat red meat 3 meals a day, you probably shouldn't eat soy three meals a day. Mix things up.
 

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Here's a good article by an expert:<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.foodrevolution.org/what_about_soy.htm" target="_blank">http://www.foodrevolution.org/what_about_soy.htm</a><br><br><br><br>
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Thanks for the input....I will try to incorporate less soy in my diet. I just wonder if Soy is any better than dairy? I guess it depends on who you ask.
 

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Thanks for the input....I will try to incorporate less soy in my diet. I just wonder if Soy is any better than dairy? I guess it depends on who you ask.</div>
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You could always do some organic dairy products?<br><br>
Just another option!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rockon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rockon:"><br><br><br><br><br><br>
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hey this might be the right thread to ask ...... how much protein do mushrooms have per 100g?? is it 3g , if so thats a good substitute for protein?
 

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Thanks for the input....I will try to incorporate less soy in my diet. I just wonder if Soy is any better than dairy? I guess it depends on who you ask.</div>
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Soy may have a minor negative impact on your health, but probably not, from everything I've read. Dairy, on the other hand, is loaded with cholesterol and saturated fat, which are definitely bad for you. I'll take soy milk over cow milk any day, even without the cruelty concerns over dairy.<br><br><br><br>
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The rule I follow about soy is this:<br><br><br><br>
processed soy = bad<br><br>
fermented soy = good<br><br><br><br>
Tempeh, miso, and natto (ie the traditional Japanese soy foods) are generally considered to be healthy and safe. Tofu is ok too, but you shouldn't eat it every day. Organic soy milk is probably ok too, but I use it only occasionally.<br><br><br><br>
The original poster's soyburgers and soy cheese definitely fall into the things you should avoid category.
 

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my boyfriend was contemplating drinking soy milk instead of regular milk and he decided not to because of the hormonal stuff.</div>
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Everyone goes on and on about estrogen and hormones in soy milk. But do they ever think of all the hormones that cows are pumped full of, or the fact that anything coming straight out of a female mammal is loaded with far more estrogen than soy?<br><br><br><br>
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hey this might be the right thread to ask ...... how much protein do mushrooms have per 100g?? is it 3g , if so thats a good substitute for protein?</div>
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Wha? You're looking for a substitute... for protein???
 

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My take on it is that moderate amounts of whole bean products are okay, but isolated soy protein is questionable. However, I haven't read a lot on it. I use soy milk on my cereal and sometimes in cooking (so usually not more than a cup per day). I don't use cow milk if possible because I think it's worse - and it's not very difficult to cut from my diet. I try to buy veggie burgers made from other things.
 

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I did drink for for a 1 month period never feeling good after I drank it, but didnt think anything over it.Once I drank 3 glasses of soy one day (not together) after the last glass (about mid afternoon), I got dizzy with hot flashes! I believe soy is a very dangerous product! Never touched it sense.
 

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I did drink for for a 1 month period never feeling good after I drank it, but didnt think anything over it.Once I drank 3 glasses of soy one day (not together) after the last glass (about mid afternoon), I got dizzy with hot flashes! I believe soy is a very dangerous product! Never touched it sense.</div>
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Unless you're allergic to soy, I can't imagine why you'd have that kind of reaction. I'd recommend seeing a doctor and having an allergy test to see if you're allergic to soy.<br><br><br><br>
I make a point of drinking 24 oz of fortified soy milk every day, since it's my primary source of calcium, vitamin D, and vitamin B12, as well as having lots of good protein and other nutrients. I've never had a problem like this.<br><br><br><br>
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I try to buy veggie burgers made from other things.</div>
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What other kinds of premade veggie burgers are there. I just read some nasty things about Quorn on a link from here. I'm getting afraid to eat anything prepackaged.
 

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Each morning, I have soy milk on my cereal, and an occasional soy meal (tofu, tempeh, etc.) during the month. Based on everything I've read, I'm not afraid of eating soy in reasonable amounts,and since I'm at an age for hot flashes, it probably has a preventive effect (I've had none since I switched to soy milk). I use the same rule of thumb with soy, that I use with other foods "Mix it UP". I try and vary my diet with a wide variety of vegetables and grains so that I don't pig out on any one food type.
 
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