VeggieBoards banner

1 - 10 of 10 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
0 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
I hate this...<br><br><br><br>
Alaskans voted against this twice....and here it is again.
<p> </p>

<span huddler_attributes="{"plugin":"attachment","params":{"id":null,"name":null,"description":null,"size":0,"type":null}}" huddler_plugin="attachment">
<a
class="attachment loginreq" href="/attachments/0" title=""><span class="file "> <span class="details">0k . file</span></span>
</a></span>
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
0 Posts
Discussion Starter · #3 ·
Maybe you folks should write to Frank Murkowski and tell him what you think. Tell him you are cancelling that trip to Alaska in July/August.....
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
878 Posts
the attachment didint work for me !!!<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/bigcry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":cry:">
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
870 Posts
What a tough job, what a hard decision. How do you protect the moose and caribou as well as the wolf? It sounds like other large predators (probably various bear?) have been captured and moved? That is so much tougher to do with the wolf. And the wolf reproduces so quickly.<br><br><br><br>
I am so for the wolf packs in Yellowstone but that is a small island of land and the wolves are reproducing very fast. There are sheep herds surrounding Yellowstone whose shepherds want the wolves controlled, how should they be satisfied? I just read that the surviving calf rates among the Yellowstone elk is something like 12 calves for every 100 live births because of the wolves (I need to check the number but that seems about right) what should be done to protect the elk? The problem is similar I am guessing to Alaskan caribou and moose but I would think that there is a larger chunk of land for them to roam.<br><br><br><br>
I personally am so opposed to aerial shooting, and it sounds like "private citizens" can get a permit to shoot the wolves but are not doing so. (What is the difference between a "hunter" and a "private citizen" with a hunting permit?)<br><br><br><br>
When you write to the governor what alternative are you suggesting? What are you willing to do to advocate for the wolf and the caribou and moose?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7,895 Posts
Shewolf will have something to say about this when she gets back from her USA trip I bet!... You can pretty much count on that! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
0 Posts
Discussion Starter · #8 ·
The wolves are not killing too many moose and caribou- The game board just wants to have more moose and caribou to have fun killing. ANd they want to have fun killing the wolves, too <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/bigcry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":cry:"><br><br><br><br>
I can't even speak intelligently about this issue....I am too shocked, horrified, and ANGRY <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":mad:"><br><br><br><br>
The wolves tend to kill older (slower, possibly diseased or dying) moose (which, due to rack, those are the ones the hunters want too!!!! ARGH!!!<br><br><br><br>
I'M SO PISSED!!!<br><br><br><br><br><br>
PLease, folks- I can't attach worth a crap and don't have the patience. Please learn as much as possible about this issue. If anyone finds a good (and recent) piece on this, please attach it!<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":mad:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsdown.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":down:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/spew.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":spew:">
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,192 Posts
<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by aksjg</i><br><br>
PLease, folks- I can't attach worth a crap and don't have the patience. Please learn as much as possible about this issue. If anyone finds a good (and recent) piece on this, please attach it!<br></div>
</div>
<br><br><br>
I found this online... if its basically what you wanted:<br><br><a href="http://www.adn.com/front/story/3315402p-3346613c.html" target="_blank">http://www.adn.com/front/story/3315402p-3346613c.html</a><br><br><br><br>
I'm not so sure it's a wise move to remove, or lessen the population of, a natural predator. It is generally the predator population that keeps deer herd, elk, moose, etc in check with the existing habitat. If the wolves kill off a lot of their food supply, they too will die as food is harder to find. Then the prey population will rebuild on its own and then the wolf population will grow again. It's a natural cycle.<br><br><br><br>
To remove the wolf will likely result in a rapid population expansion of the caribou, moose, etc population. Many of these will then probably die and just go to waste during theharsh winter months. At least if a wolf takes down a sick, weak or elderly animal, it is used for food. Wolves, by nature, are not interested in going after the biggest or strongest animal. They want the easiest target.<br><br><br><br>
Interesting... helicopter hunting. That's really not a far stretch from hunting out of a car.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,765 Posts
<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Aksjg:<br><br>
The game board just wants to have more moose and caribou to have fun killing.</div>
</div>
<br><br><br>
You're from Anchorage, aren't you? Feeding a family is a lot more involved when you don't have a Carrs on every other block.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">The wolves tend to kill older (slower, possibly diseased or dying) moose (which, due to rack, those are the ones the hunters want too!!!! ARGH!!!</div>
</div>
<br><br><br>
Actually, they tend to mostly kill young calves. The size of a moose rack is an indicator of health. Diseased and dying moose don't produce healthy racks.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">If anyone finds a good (and recent) piece on this, please attach it!</div>
</div>
<br><br><br><a href="http://www.state.ak.us/local/akpages/FISH.GAME/wildlife/geninfo/planning/mcgrath/moose.htm" target="_blank">Restoring the McGrath Moose Harvest</a><br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.state.ak.us/local/akpages/FISH.GAME/wildlife/geninfo/planning/mcgrath/faq.htm" target="_blank">Q&A about Moose, Wolves, and Bears in the McGrath Area</a><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Robert:<br><br>
It's a natural cycle.<br></div>
</div>
<br><br><br>
It's not quite that simple. It's what is sometimes called a 'predator pit'. If the predator has alternative food sources, they can perpetually keep any particular prey population down.
 
1 - 10 of 10 Posts
Top