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I'm a vegetarian, but the only animal derived product I consume is milk and I'm in the process of converting to soy milk. BUT I love to bake muffins and cakes, which calls for eggs which I still eat, BUT I only eat ones from a friends place. They have a huge property and they have chickens running around in their yard and they look after them really well. I also love scrambled eggs when I'm hung over as it's the only greasy-like food I can eat.<br><br>
Do you think that this egg consumption is bad? Also does using soymilk in baking make the baked goods taste different, cuz I have an omni bf?
 

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using soymilk has never changed the way my baked goods turn out.<br><br><br><br>
as far as the eggs are concerned.. the only person who can deem it as bad for you to use eggs is you. if you like them and are comfortable with where they come from then do as you please.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Euphoria</i><br><br><b>I'm a vegetarian, but the only animal derived product I consume is milk and I'm in the process of converting to soy milk. BUT I love to bake muffins and cakes, which calls for eggs which I still eat, BUT I only eat ones from a friends place. They have a huge property and they have chickens running around in their yard and they look after them really well. I also love scrambled eggs when I'm hung over as it's the only greasy-like food I can eat.<br><br>
Do you think that this egg consumption is bad? Also does using soymilk in baking make the baked goods taste different, cuz I have an omni bf?</b></div>
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I made two recipes from "Simple Treats" last weekend (at Amazon.com if you want a copy), and the cookies were better than fantastic! Completely vegan. You DO NOT need eggs or milk for baking. In fact, my gingersnaps, dipped in soymilk, are so delicious... I wish I hadn't just eaten the last one. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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Euphoria,<br><br><br><br>
There are TONS of substitutions for using eggs in your cooking! Suzanne Havala gives the following tips in <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Being Vegetarian for Dummies</span> (a great resource).<br><br><br><br>
To provide lift for recipies that need a light and fluffy texture:
<ul><li>1/2 ripe mashed banana (if you don't mind the flavor, as in muffins, pancakes, cookies, quick breads)<br></li>
<li>1/4 cup any kind of tofu, blended with liquid ingredients in recipe<br></li>
<li>1 1/2 tsp. egg replacer (sold in powdered format and mixed with water)<br></li>
<li>1/4 cup applesauce, canned pumpkin or squash, or pureed prunes. Add 1/2 tsp baking powder with these b/c fruit purees will make your recipe dense.<br></li>
<li>1 heaping tbsp soy flour or bean flour mixed with 1 tbsp water<br></li>
<li>2 tbsp corn starch beaten with 2 tbsp water<br></li>
<li>1 tbsp ground flax seeds whipped w/ 1/4 cup water</li>
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To bind (as in veggie burgers, caserols, lentil loaves etc.):
<ul><li>1/4 cup tofu blended with 1 tbsp flour<br></li>
<li>Tomato paste<br></li>
<li>Arrowroot starch<br></li>
<li>Corn starch<br></li>
<li>Potato starch<br></li>
<li>Egg replacer<br></li>
<li>Flour<br></li>
<li>Fine breadcrumbs, cracker meal or matzo meal<br></li>
<li>Quick-cooking rolled oats or cooked oatmeal<br></li>
<li>Mashed potatos or potato flakes</li>
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You may have to experiement with these binding replacers. Havala suggests starting with 2-3 tbsp of the ingredient and testing it from there. Remember that some of these ingredients will come through in the flavor of the food.<br><br><br><br>
To imitate egg with tofu:
<ul><li>Use chopped extra firm tofu and soy mayo for 'egg salad'<br></li>
<li>Add chopped tofu to salad in place of hard boiled eggs<br></li>
<li>Cook up chopped tofu with veggies and soy cheese for 'scambled tofu'</li>
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I always cook with soy milk and no omni has ever noticed! Be sure to use vanilla soy only with sweet recipies. Otherwise, use plain soy (like with mashed potatos or cream soups).<br><br><br><br>
I've tried several of the egg replacers and they all worked great. The banana is especially good in pancakes and muffins!<br><br><br><br>
Good luck!
 

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I haven't missed eggs or cow's milk in my cooking for over a year now. The only thing I've really had to adjust for is cheese, but that hasn't been a real problem. I've grown to prefer foods without cheese, and I only rarely use cheese substitutes now.
 

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I'm baking some chocolate chip blondies right this minute. Oats, barley flour (wheat flour is fine, too), maple syrup, brown rice syrup, canola oil, vanilla chocolate chips, baking powder, baking soda, salt, walnuts (optional)... I think that's everything. Very easy, very yummy, very cruelty-free.
 

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I don't know if your eggs are bad from an ethical standpoint, but healthwise... eek! One large egg= 215 mgs cholesterol... daily cholesterol limit is supposed to be 300 mgs. And I don't know about anyone else, but when I used to eat eggs, it was at *least* 2 - 4 at a time.<br><br><br><br>
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well the thing with eggs is that the chickens are shot with hormones and treted very poorly. there might be organic eggs you can buy. if you want to still eat eggs i would go for organic if i wher you.
 

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Euphoria, I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. I rarely drink milk, but will have cheese or yogurt a 2-4 times a week. I'm the same way with eggs. I'll have them in baked goods or the occasional omelette/scramble.<br><br><br><br>
Personally, it doesn't bother me. My use of animal products is low compared to most omnis and even ovo-lacto vegetarians I know (they depend on dairy and eggs for protein too much). It's up to you if it bothers you, though.<br><br><br><br>
The cholesterol thing is interesting, though. If you don't eat eggs that often (once or twice a month), having a few isn't going to ruin your blood cholesterol count. If you eat a few every day or a few times a week, then you'll have problems. I guess the key is moderation and learning how to beat a lot of air into a single egg (with milk or water and seasonings) to get the most volume out of the egg and then covering to let the egg steam a little while you're cooking it (it helps the egg to rise). I used to make 3 egg omelettes because 1 or 2 eggs weren't enough for all of the veggies, cheese, and meat analogues I put in, but since I learned to beat in air and steam the egg, the extra 2 eggs weren't necessary. Also you can totally remove the cholesterol by using egg whites (2 egg whites=1 egg) instead or a product like EggBeaters or Better Than Eggs.
 

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Hi. As a recent Vegan convert, I have given up eggs completely. However, my skinny 5 year old daughter eats the whites, and I encourage it as much as possible, as egg whites are a great source of protein. Of the 5 or 6 foods she will actually consume, they are one of the best.<br><br><br><br>
I was appalled to find out that "free range" doesn't prevent cruelty, and that "organic" doesn't mean cruelty free. However, by the luckiest of chance, I found a woman who has 17 chickens from whom she collects the eggs. I asked her if she ever eats her chickens and she was horrified - she says that all of her chickens have names and she couldn't possibly do that (survey says - RIGHT ANSWER). I feel very comfortable buying and serving eggs from this woman and still calling myself Vegan. I even ate one the other day, but am finding that I am quickly losing my taste for animal products. I'll probably skip her eggs and stick to tofu.<br><br><br><br>
BTW, I have almost no issue with actually consuming meat (although the father I get away from eating meat, the more I dislike the whole thing). I became Vegan because of the absolute torture and misery that our "food" animals suffer.<br><br><br><br>
I bought some Vegan cookies from a company called Sunflour Baking and they are SO GOOD! I have to be really careful of buying these as I could easily make them TOO much of my diet. Check them out:<br><br><br><br><a href="http://sunflourbaking.com/" target="_blank">http://sunflourbaking.com/</a><br><br><br><br>
Dr. Weil has some great veggie receipes on his website, and you might check them out:<br><br><br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drw_cda.html" target="_blank">http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drw_cda.html</a><br><br><br><br>
In closing, no one can tell you what veggie means to you. It is an individual thing and you must follow what makes sense to you.<br><br><br><br>
Good luck.<br><br><br><br>
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Thanks heaps for the advice guys. I will definetly try banana in my muffins and pancakes instead of egg. I will also begin my search for egg replacer.<br><br><br><br>
Guess what......? I tried soymilk and hate it. I bought a litre of the strawberry flavoured one and it was gross. Hmmmm. I guess it's an acquired taste.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Euphoria</i><br><br><b>I tried soymilk and hate it. I bought a litre of the strawberry flavoured one and it was gross. Hmmmm. I guess it's an acquired taste.</b></div>
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Don't give up so easily! Try different brands. I was lucky enough to find a good tasting one on my first try, but soon after my grocery store stopped selling my brand. It took me a while to find another brand that tasted good. Try 'WestSoy' Original. That's the new one that I found, and I really like it. I also think the 'chocolate' flavored ones are awsome.
 

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<b>Re: Soymilk</b><br><br><br><br>
Stay away from fruit-flavored soy products. I've tried them all, and they all suck.<br><br><br><br>
Vanilla soymilk is the best flavor for casual drinking and for eating cereal. I have resorted to Vanilla Silk lately, mainly because it's readily available, even at major grocery chains, and it's organic. I prefer the 365 brand at Whole Foods, but they've been out of it for a while, and don't expect to get any more in stock for another month, roughly. Their brand is half as costly, and it tastes the best!!!<br><br><br><br><b>This on eggs:</b><br><br><br><br>
'A subscriber [to DawnWatch newsletter) from Ohio, Vira Moroz, has described Fox 8 in Cleveland's, Monday, May 6, extraordinary television coverage of egg farm cruelty. She writes:<br><br><br><br>
"Their I-Team Investigator, Tom Merriman, did an expose of some Ohio egg industries which was very animal friendly. It clearly showed the abuses chickens receive on factory farms. The segment was hyped in preceding days, and the ads repeatedly stated that viewers may want to think twice the next time they decide to use eggs to make food. I am sure many people tuned in.<br><br><br><br>
"The report showed video footage of suffering, dying, and dead chickens on these egg farms. The footage was provided by Mercy for Animals and a few spokespeople from the organization were interviewed. The segment lasted a good 10 minutes, and it definitely got the point across that as long as there is a demand for this food, and the prices are to remain cheap, these chickens will be subjected to such suffering. The segment suggested either buying eggs from humanely raised chickens which are certified by the Humane Society, or just giving up eggs altogether. It even stressed that certain foods that are labeled as humane by the FDA have no real benefit for the chickens since standards are so minimal for poultry welfare."<br><br><br><br>
Moroz went on to say that anchorwoman Wilma Smith let it be known that she was affected by the footage and would be making some sort of change in her habits.<br><br><br><br>
Fox 8's I-Team should get positive feedback for this in-depth coverage of egg-farm cruelty. Please take a moment to thank them. They take feedback at: <a href="http://164.109.57.227/dynamic/mail.asp?category=33" target="_blank">http://164.109.57.227/dynamic/mail.asp?category=33</a><br><br><br><br>
You can learn more about the superb undercover work of Mercy for Animals - work that makes media exposes such as this one possible, at: <a href="http://www.eggcruelty.com/" target="_blank">http://www.eggcruelty.com/</a><br><br><br><br>
Yours and the animals',<br><br>
Karen Dawn<br><br><a href="http://www.DawnWatch.com" target="_blank">www.DawnWatch.com</a><br><br><br><br>
(DawnWatch is an animal advocacy media watch that looks at animal issues in the media and facilitates one-click responses to the relevant media outlets. You can learn more about it at <a href="http://www.DawnWatch.com." target="_blank">www.DawnWatch.com.</a> To subscribe to DawnWatch, email <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> and tell me you'd like to receive alerts. If at any time you find DawnWatch is not for you, just let me know via email and I'll take you off the subscriber list immediately. If you forward or reprint DawnWatch alerts, please do so unedited and include this tag line.)"
 

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don't give up on Soy milk. Get the fortified kind as it has extra nutrients in it. try SO NICE brand (chocolate,and vanilla, and original) Also SILK i have found to be a nice tasting soy milk.<br><br>
Good luck.
 

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I like SILK, but love SOY DREAM. It is the first one that I like without any flavor at all ( I usually prefer vanilla). SILK is the easiest one to find, but SOY DREAM is right behind it - in the refridge section. Keep trying. I have to say that I don't like most of the boxed ones, and loath many of them. Keep at it. You'll find one you like.
 

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Thanks for the advice guys, but those brands just don't seem to exist out here in Australia. We are like 20 years behind. We only really have two brands.. SoGood and VitaSoy. I searched but could only find plain or fruit flavoured soy milks. Do organic stores sell nice soy milk?
 
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