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This is a site where people are reporting their pet's deaths. The number so far is over 2,000. Yet the media is only reporting 16 deaths. WHY?<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/worried.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":worried:">
 

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I was just watching Fox news and I'm sure they mentioned a figure of around 400 or so.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>PumpkinGirl</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I dont know for sure I I think the media wants a autopsy or veterinary documentation to put the death on the final count.</div>
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The link above is exactly that . . . vets posting pet deaths they've witnessed.<br><br><br><br>
You don't trust them?
 

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I was just watching Fox news and I'm sure they mentioned a figure of around 400 or so.</div>
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As of this morning - 3/27 - all the major tv networks were still quoting 14-16 only. It made me furious because then pet owners don't think it's a big deal and will get the idea that it's ok to feed their pets canned poison.<br><br><br><br>
We threw out all our cans of pet food - even those not on the official list. I would not take a chance on the pets we love so dearly.
 

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It's not like the media to understate facts (unless it's the war). Usually they sensationalize things beyond belief. I believe they're being somewhat responsible and only reporting confirmed deaths (due to the pet food). Of course anyone whose pet dies is now going to blame it on the food.
 

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Based on the vets' website, there are already over 2,000 CONFIRMED deaths.</div>
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No, that is how many have been reported to the website.<br><br><a href="http://www.petconnection.com/recall/" target="_blank">http://www.petconnection.com/recall/</a><br><br>
Doesn't say a damn thing about being confirmed. Quit lying.
 
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the media is watching their behinds. i'd think that they can't legally report 2,000 deaths as proven to have been caused by the recalled food, unless 2,000 autopsies have been completed, with 2,000 sets of results all confirming cause of death due to eating that brand of food, with traces of those specific poisons proven to be in the system of affected animals.<br><br><br><br>
that site is not just for vets, and not only accessable by vets. anyone who wanted to could add their pets details to the list- thinking but not knowing for sure that their animal was affected.<br><br><br><br>
or they could add 50 animals names and details, 50 names and addresses from the phone book, and tick the boxes that say yep, a vet did an autopsy, and yep, he confirmed cause of death as blah blah blah, becuase they're mental, just to add to/get on board with the hype, or out of attention seeking behaviour, bordom or malicousness. i could have spent this afternoon doing just that, in fact.<br><br><br><br>
until every pet owner who claims to have been affected has been contacted, and each animal has been autopsied and each slide and set of test results has been checked and confirmed, anything on that site is unproven. those results are NOT proven, and they are not solely recorded by vets. the site itself says "these are self-reported numbers".<br><br><br><br>
there might have been 2,000 deaths, or 10,000, but we don't know yet, there hasn't been time to be anywhere near sure of the scope of things. if the media said on the news this morning "2,000 pet deaths confirmed as a result of tainted food !!!111" and it turned out that only 1,000 (or 14) were actually a result of the tainted food, i bet they'd be on the wrong end of a big law suit from the pet food company.<br><br><br><br>
unless the real problem is that china has bribed the worlds media to keep them quiet? or perhaps the pet food company affected has bribed the international media? i wonder who is bribing the FDA? and why would they want to, and what would they have to keep them quiet with? I think its the lizard people behind this for sure.. David Ike was right, dammit!<br><br><br><br>
.....and incidently, anyone who feeds their pet recalled food if its thought to have caused (just?) 14 deaths is a complete idiot. no caring pet owner would dream of doing that. would you feed your family and friends recalled tofu if it had <i>only</i> killed 14 people?
 

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I'm betting the media can only report numbers confirmed by the FDA. The site you linked asks people to also have their vets report the death to the FDA. There very well may be a lag time between the deaths and the numbers rising since they have to <i>fact check</i> before spewing numbers. In the earliest reports I read they said x number confirmed, but that it is expected to rise.
 

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I saw something interesting on the news this morning. They thought it was kind of funny that 16 animals (confirmed) have died and everyone is freaking out, it's all over the news. Meanwhile U.S. soldiers die in Iraq every day and all you hear is a brief mention, not even names or where they're from.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Silver</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><a href="http://www.petconnection.com" target="_blank">http://www.petconnection.com</a><br><br><br><br>
This is a site where people are reporting their pet's deaths. The number so far is over 2,000. Yet the media is only reporting 16 deaths. WHY?<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/worried.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":worried:"></div>
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good possibility they're (some group/s involved in the reporting) protecting the companies who'd be at financial liability (lawsuits, and damaged reputation) if the truth was known.<br><br><br><br>
Thankfully we have the net, to share the truth. I didn't know about this till now. glad you posted it...<br><br><br><br>
also, a good wake up call for people to start learning to not trust corporations! (for our food and for many other things too... news and media corporations included!)
 

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I saw something interesting on the news this morning. They thought it was kind of funny that 16 animals (confirmed) have died and everyone is freaking out, it's all over the news. Meanwhile U.S. soldiers die in Iraq every day and all you hear is a brief mention, not even names or where they're from.</div>
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makes you wonder Who is deciding what gets put in the top news headlines.<br><br>
Same thing with food recalls. The vast majority are from animal products... but most of the news I remember seeing is on recalled lettuce, peanut butter, etc.<br><br>
News corporations are for-profit biz's with a LOT of influence on consumer/citizen behavior... they generally control the belief and attitude culture of the nation. They can take an event and have the public believe something very different, just by repeating it a lot (O.K. City was a clear case of this).<br><br>
A lot of money complicity. Trust the mainstream media = believe what the corporations/gov't want you to believe.<br><br><br><br>
mainstream news seems to generally either be:<br><br>
-horrible terrible events, usually evoking fear, anger, or numbness, presented with little or no context of understanding, or any meaningful way to prevent future events<br><br>
-or casual little bits of trivia or personal stories that have no relevance to what really matters to most of us, and don't inspire or enables us to make meaningful changes with our own life<br><br><br><br><br><br>
(a bit off-topic )
 

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Same thing with food recalls. The vast majority are from animal products... but most of the news I remember seeing is on recalled lettuce, peanut butter, etc.</div>
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Really? Could you please cite the mass recalls from animal related products that did not receive media coverage. Thnx.<br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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A lot of money complicity. Trust the mainstream media = believe what the corporations/gov't want you to believe.</div>
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Um, lettuce and peanut butter come from corporations as well. Why don't they receive the blanket protection you are claiming?
 

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I was just watching Fox news</div>
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faux news?<br><br><br><br><br><br>
ive only been hearing like 500.<br><br>
but the reports of sickness was like 2000.
 

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let me correct that, vast majority of food illnesses...<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.helpusall.com/foodandhealthpoisons.html" target="_blank">http://www.helpusall.com/foodandhealthpoisons.html</a><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Um, lettuce and peanut butter come from corporations as well. Why don't they receive the blanket protection you are claiming?</div>
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the national cattleman's association and the dairy industry is a tad more powerful than the lettuce or nut industry. The corn group does hold power though. btw I am not claiming any "blanket protection"... just saying that sometimes money is used to influence what's get put in the news, or left out.<br><br>
Monsanto got Fox news to pull the bovine growth hormone story... the biotech industry got Nature journal to pull the GMO-pollution story... some things in the news (or out of the news) are just plain bought.<br><br><br><br>
but also yes, any corporation is ran by a Board Of Directors, and they generally make decisions solely based on profit, in a system of group-think, with the aim of attracting and keeping shareholders equity, and increasing market share. Breaking the law is sometimes done when profitable, and causing death or illness to people and animals is also done when profitable. It varies but these things do happen.<br><br>
Seeing what efforts there have been to dilute Organic standards is one example of how corporations that deal in plant-foods aren't sided with the common good.<br><br><br><br>
Thankfully, food can also come from small businesses (not publically-traded), farm co-ops, small farms, or even gardens.<br><br><br><br>
(It's negative stuff, but it's worth it to know, so we can stop trusting the sources that aren't trustworthy... and start finding the good ones)
 

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I saw something interesting on the news this morning. They thought it was kind of funny that 16 animals (confirmed) have died and everyone is freaking out, it's all over the news. Meanwhile U.S. soldiers die in Iraq every day and all you hear is a brief mention, not even names or where they're from.</div>
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Who is "they"? And people freak out over US soldiers all the time, the amount of people saying the US should get out of there is huge. Even here in Aus there is a nightly program that lists the names and photos of all allied soldiers who have died that day (or in two or so preceding days too, I guess). At the end of the program there is just silence, with the photos of the newly dead, their names and ages. And they are nearly all so young. Just so young.
 

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let me correct that, vast majority of food illnesses...<br></div>
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Which has nothing to do with the cover up you alleged. Thnx.<br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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the national cattleman's association and the dairy industry is a tad more powerful than the lettuce or nut industry. The corn group does hold power though. btw I am not claiming any "blanket protection"... just saying that sometimes money is used to influence what's get put in the news, or left out.<br><br>
Monsanto got Fox news to pull the bovine growth hormone story... the biotech industry got Nature journal to pull the GMO-pollution story... some things in the news (or out of the news) are just plain bought.</div>
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As we have established you were talking out of your hiney when inventing your conspiracy theory, there is no need for me to address any of this.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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but also yes, any corporation is ran by a Board Of Directors, and they generally make decisions solely based on profit, in a system of group-think, with the aim of attracting and keeping shareholders equity, and increasing market share. Breaking the law is sometimes done when profitable, and causing death or illness to people and animals is also done when profitable. It varies but these things do happen.</div>
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I find it amusing you assume only "corporations" act in their best interests, and that everyone else can be trusted.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Seeing what efforts there have been to dilute Organic standards is one example of how corporations that deal in plant-foods aren't sided with the common good.</div>
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Depends on what is interpreted as the common good, huh?
 

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the national cattleman's association and the dairy industry is a tad more powerful than the lettuce or nut industry.</div>
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The difference completely changes when you think about who's selling the lettuce or peanut butter.<br><br><br><br>
Chiquita (Fresh Express), Unilever (Skippy), ConAgra (Peter Pan), Smucker (Jif, Adam's, Laura Scudder)...
 

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Who is "they"? And people freak out over US soldiers all the time, the amount of people saying the US should get out of there is huge. Even here in Aus there is a nightly program that lists the names and photos of all allied soldiers who have died that day (or in two or so preceding days too, I guess). At the end of the program there is just silence, with the photos of the newly dead, their names and ages. And they are nearly all so young. Just so young.</div>
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Fox News. Apparently people care more in Australia than they do here. For every 1 minute devoted to the war I'd venture to guess CNN and Fox News spends 20 minutes discussing Anna Nicole Smith, Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, baby panda bears, etc. In fact, the only time Fox News mentions the war is when it's to discuss how it's going to affect your stocks.
 
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