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I recently played a game of paintball with a few family members. I got a lot of enjoyment out of it and so today I started to look for a paintball gun online. Somehow I stumbled upon a video on how paintballs are made. It turns out they are made with gelatin.<br><br>
I am unsure now of how ethical it would be for me to play the sport. I am a vegetarian because I believe we have evolved enough to make killing animals unnecessary. Not because the thought of an omnivorous lifestyle disgusts me.<br><br>
So to me this is a question of ethics. I am looking to get any and all input. Especially from any vegies that play paintball.<br><br>
I read in <a href="http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2667457" target="_blank">another forum</a>, specific to paintball, that one company had looked into it in the past and said they were still interested in making vegetarian paintballs. I do not know if that has been done yet.
 

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Well, it's down to you really. I'm sure my sports aren't 100% veg-friendly; for example, my rock climbing equipment probably has something in it somewhere, although my shoes were as synthetic as I could get them. So if you can't get veg*n paintballs, then you'll have to just weigh the decision yourself.<br><br>
However, a quick google revealed that these may well be vegan: <a href="http://www.empirepaintball.com/paintballs/empire-evil-paint/" target="_blank">http://www.empirepaintball.com/paint...re-evil-paint/</a> You may want to contact the company about that, though.
 

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Paintballs need to be made with gelatin so they can keep their shape.<br>
I play paintball regularly and have heard about experiments to make vegetarian or vegan paintballs and non of which held their shape as well which results in a less accurate shot.<br><br>
You'll never find 100% of the things you need to be 100% Vegan or vegetarian.<br><br>
Paintball is a sport. The way I think about it is even though I do believe it is cruel to kill the animals.<br>
Paintballs are made from gelatin which is already created when they kill the animal. Now its either they use it for something which results in paintball and paintball = money for fields and supplies = better economy and more fun for people like me.<br>
Or they can waste the product that becomes gelatin and then you're just wasting an animal.
 

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I think it depends on the individual. If there's a sport you love to bits, that makes you happy, and you'd hate to be prevented from doing and there isn't a vegetarian option... I'd say go for it, make the most vegetarian choices you can and maybe email companies asking if they can make vegetarian versions of things, but don't feel bad because you've done all you can. On the other hand, if there's a sport you don't play much, aren't fussed about, do every now and again, doesn't really matter to you: is it worth supporting the animal exploitation industry for? No it isn't.<br><br>
So I think it depends on the individual, and how much paintballing matters to you. It's one of those things there isn't really a set answer for <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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If there's a sport you love to bits, that makes you happy, and you'd hate to be prevented from doing and there isn't a vegetarian option... I'd say go for it, make the most vegetarian choices you can and maybe email companies asking if they can make vegetarian versions of things, but don't feel bad because you've done all you can. On the other hand, if there's a sport you don't play much, aren't fussed about, do every now and again, doesn't really matter to you: is it worth supporting the animal exploitation industry for? No it isn't.</div>
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I agree with part of your post, and disagree with another. When going vegan I gave up many things, including liquid gel migraine tablets. I get migraines often, and if not treated with something I usually end up throwing up. It's 100% subjective, as you mentioned. Happiness, or animal rights? The OP claims to be vegetarian, so what kind of vegetarian are you? Do you not eat meat, but still use products made from their melted bones? I stopped playing paintball after I had gone vegan, I found other hobbies to entertain myself. Then again, the amount of paintball I did may be trivial. I played a couple of times a month, whereas, friends played multiple times a week. How often to you play OP? Do you compete? I had a few pieces of gear/"gun" and sold it for some pretty coin to guys I had played with. I wasted the money (lol), but you can direct it towards a new hobby if you so wish.<br><br>
So on to the part of Identity's post I agree with. You should start a communique, or several, with companies that produce paintball products (balls, to be more specific) and speak to them about vegetarian/vegan alternatives, and if they plan to attempt development on stables models. You never know, your letter or phone call may be the one that encourages them to try a new method that hasn't been attempted yet.
 

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It's entirely up to what makes you comfortable. You're the only one who can decide what's right or wrong.<br><br>
Would I stop? Probably, but that would be my decision (and honestly, I've only played once or twice. Now, if my skis were made from animal bones, I might find it harder to switch)
 

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Perhaps you can find used ones online or somewhere. And then you can email the companies letting them know your concerns.
 

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I became a vegan only recently so this wasn't really a problem for me back when i was paintballing. at the time, I wasn't eating gelatin but i was still eating some cheeses with rennet in them so it seemed a bit dumb to make a big deal out of it. I got bored of playing eventually, which is convenient now. one less non-vegan thing to worry about <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I paintball with my boyfriend when I feel the urge to get shot at. which isn't very often, it's usually just to make sure he fixed the gun right (one of them's messed up somehow.) we usually buy the evil ones that were mentioned in one of the first posts, because they're from walmart and fairly cheap.<br><br>
I'd say if you already have the paintballs, you might as well use them up, so play another game or two. otherwise they'd be being wasted, which would be pretty disrespectful (unless you've got friends who would use them up for you, in which case, go nuts.) but if you don't have any and would have to buy another box in order to play, that that's completely up to you and whether or not you think it's right.<br><br>
I personally never thought paintballs had gelatin in them... they're pretty hard to break, so I assumed it was a sort of soft plastic. :shrug: news to me.
 

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Thanks for all of your replies.<br><br>
So when I made my original post I had already been in position to have a relative buy a used gun for me. Somewhere communication got mixed up, my bad, and the gun was still purchased. I spent almost $200 on the gun and what came with it. My wallet is a victim of being owned by a college student so that goes to show how much I enjoyed playing.<br><br>
With that said, I have decided that I am not going to play paintball. I am not the type to flaunt that I am a vegetarian just like I do not flaunt that I am an atheist, many casual friends do not know I am either. I believe that I only draw negative light onto the groups if I do flaunt them. However when I am asked questions I like to give answers. If I were to play paintball I would lose any right to claim a moral standpoint, knowingly going against the moral good of my claims.<br><br>
I will keep my ethics, they can keep the paint. Now who wants to buy a $200 gun? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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Honestly, I wouldn't. But I've never played before so I'm not positive how much I'd love it. XP I see you've given it up, so may I suggest Lazer Tag? I love Lazer Tag, and I don't think it'd be that different. (Maybe it is, IDK).
 

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well you could use reballs whih are foam ones but most places won't let you play.<br>
first strike rounds are definetely vegan but they must be loaded individualy or you must buy a special gun. hydrotec paintballs look to be from their site but i've yet to recieve a reply and rap 4's golf rounds are another potential candidate
 

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<p>vegan paintballer right here!</p>
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<p>lazer tag?  no thank you.. not even comparable to paintball!</p>
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<p>there was a company called hydrotec that was supposedly going to make an entire line of "green" paintballs.  i have recently read online that the company has pushed, yet again on the release of their product.  kinda sucks. </p>
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<p>all of my gear is vegan and synthetic..  and i do take advantage of the outlet to open the kids minds up in between games.  i'm known as the weird vegan guy.  works for me!</p>
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<p>and besides.. it's an opportunity to thump some meat eaters upside their heads!  :p</p>
 
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