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Do people you know insist vegetarians eat fish?

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So, remilard & I were just talking about the # of times that people reference fish-eating vegetarians on here. It got me wondering - do you really get a lot of people insisting that vegetarians eat fish? I think I've had people ask me no more than 4 or 5 times in the past 5 years and it's been more like a "so.. uhh... do you eat fish or not?" not "OMG you SO TOTALLY eat fish because ALL vegetarians eat fish because fish aren't animals!"<br><br><br><br>
The latter seems to be the prevalent sentiment that the majority of people here get. Is that right? Do you get that a lot?<br><br><br><br>
I'm curious because I get the feeling the fish question is overrepresented here.
 

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Most people seem to know that I do not eat fish. However, once my parent's friends made veggie meal just for me when me and my parents came over. It was very nice of them to make veggies, but they also made fish. It wasn't their fault, since they did not know. I felt very rude not eating the fish. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/blush.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":eek:">
 

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it has only ever been a "do you?" thing for me, though i could imagine people insisting that vegetarianism allows the consumption of fish if i tried to argue about it.
 

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The #1 question that people always ask me is "So exactly what can you eat?" so I tell them, and then they always say, "Well you eat fish too right? Sometimes? No?" It's repetitive and annoying really. It's even worse in Asian countries, where they don't consider fish to be meat. In the Philippines and Japan I was bombarded with fish on a daily basis, because everyone there thinks vegetarians can eat it. I think a lot of the omnis' confusion stems from the fact that a lot of people who don't eat any meat except for fish (and occasionally chicken) insist on calling themselves vegetarian.
 

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I got this from my family once, and then I explained to them. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/kick.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":junk:">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>curstilace</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I think a lot of the omnis' confusion stems from the fact that a lot of people who don't eat any meat except for fish (and occasionally chicken) insist on calling themselves vegetarian.</div>
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See, and this is the part I'm not convinced is true. While I read this a lot here, I'm wondering more if it's a cultural thing. Is it that we are raised to believe that fish are sub-animals? Animals with 2 or 4 legs are living things while fish are, well, fish. They're animals once-removed, so to speak.<br><br><br><br>
I just wonder if it's not so much a phenomenon of "well my sister is vegan and she eats fish" as it is "well fish aren't really animals... are they? they're not like cows, though"
 

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I should note... I don't have some hidden agenda or justification going on, I'm just wondering. I have seen the "argh why does everyone think vegetarians eat fish?" comments a lot lately.
 

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Yes, and I do not understand where that thinking comes from. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/juggle.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":juggle:">
 

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My mom often grumbles, "Oh, Sebastian, if only you ate fish, like all the other vegetarians, I would be much happier." I'm thinking my family has been mislead by the Roman Catholic Church because all meat except fish is not allowed on Fridays during Lent.
 

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Yes, and I do not understand where that thinking comes from. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/juggle.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":juggle:"></div>
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some people have a more specific definition of meat, so it follows if you think vegetarianism is "not eating meat" . . .<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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meat n.<br><br>
1. The edible flesh of animals, especially that of mammals as opposed to that of fish or poultry.</div>
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4. a. The flesh of animals used as food, esp. excluding fish and sometimes poultry, and usually in contrast to the bones and other inedible parts;</div>
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I work in the kitchen at a nursing home and they just got in a new resident who claims to be vegetarian. There is a large vegetarian-no meat written across his diet card. They served something with tuna in it the other day and were putting it on his plate. I said no hes a vegetarian, he doesn't get tuna. They said yes he does. He said he likes to eat tuna now and then. SO silly me tried to explain that vegetarians don't eat fish. They told me that vegetarians can and DO eat tuna. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/whack.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":whack:">
 

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From my personal experience, generally speaking, it's usually omnis that ask me if I eat fish, mostly because they seem confused about whether vegetarians do or not. It's actually more often "vegetarians" who do eat fish who insist to me that vegetarians can eat fish. My good friend from high school who got me thinking about veg*anism originally actually called herself a "vegetarian who eats fish," <i>not</i> "a vegetarian except for fish."
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Moechalatte</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
...called herself a "vegetarian who eats fish," <i>not</i> "a vegetarian except for fish."</div>
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Is there a difference? I've seen people on VB gripe about BOTH of those. AFAIK, ppl on VB prefer neither -- people who eat fish are neither vegetarians who eat fish nor vegetarian except for fish. They're omnis.
 

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I have to say I have never gotten this comment. And I live in Seafood City USA!<br><br><br><br>
I DO get the "What DO you eat?" question fairly often, and I am always careful to say "no animals OR fish...etc, etc, etc".<br><br>
Even though I consider fish an "animal" I realize many people don't for whatever reason...<br><br><br><br>
- - My Mom says it's because Catholics eat fish when they're abstaining from "meat" so everyone's gotten the impression that fish is not "meat"... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/inquisitive.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":stinkeye:"> but I don't think that's the answer either...
 

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Everything you might ever want to know about Catholics eating fish on friday.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.catholic-forum.com/forums/printthread.php?t=311" target="_blank">http://www.catholic-forum.com/forums...read.php?t=311</a><br><br><br><br>
From what I can see it is a cold blooded/ warm blooded argument there. Reptiles and amphibians are also classified in the cold-blooded category. Other arguments were "food value" for example meat is the most expensive "luxury" item in the meal. Fish in many cultures is ubiquitious. -- anyway very interesting questions and answers.
 

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Even when I identify myself as "an extremely strict vegetarian" (I don't often bother with vegan because most people don't know what it means anyway) about 90% of people have said "so you eat fish, right?"<br><br><br><br>
Nobody has ever really insisted that all vegetarians eat fish, and pursued that line of argument on a sustained basis, but the assumption is almost always that vegetarians eat fish...even the extremely strict ones.
 

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I live in a hunting state where all the common rumors seem to be prevalent.<br><br><br><br>
I'm vegan, but I still have people ask me all the time if I eat fish. Everyone asks me if I eat fish. And this will be right after they ask me what a vegan is and I always say, "Vegans do not eat anything processed from animals such as meat and dairy, nor do they wear wool, fur, or leather."<br><br><br><br>
And, after that's said, "So ... do you eat fish?"<br><br><br><br>
Um ... when did I add in the "[except fish]" part?
 

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One of my favorite vegetarian cookbooks is the Moosewood Restaurant Low-Fat Favorites. It has a chapter of fish recipes <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/doh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":doh:"> Things like this add to the confusion.
 
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