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So I finally got up the courage to become a vegetarian. I would have years ago, but unfortunately I still live with my family (I'm 21, but I never really got off of my feet) and I had the usual fear of ridicule and complaints about the inconvenience of making seperate meals. I figure that since we rarely ever have family dinners anymore and I usually just fend for myself, it shouldn't be such a big deal.<br><br><br><br>
I brought it up yesterday while on the way to the grocery store with my mom, and she seemed dumbfounded by the idea. "But you like meat!" I told I don't like most meats that much (which is true), at least not enough to miss them. And the she adds "but I see you eat it!" and tell her that because it's edible, I'm hungry, and it's in front of me.<br><br><br><br>
By the time we got to the store she brought up the classic "so, will you be a strict vegetarian, or will you eat chicken sometimes?" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thinking.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":think:"><br><br>
I told her that chicken isn't exactly a "vegetarian" food (unless you believe in <a href="http://www.eaudrey.com/myth/goose_tree.htm" target="_blank">chicken trees</a>), and then she mentioned that some people don't eat red meat but still eat chicken, and I told that's not vegetarianism, just eating less meat.<br><br><br><br>
Of course, once I added that I won't be eating cheese either (after she told me not to live on macaroni and cheese pizza), she proceeds to keep pointing out various cheesy foods for me to eat. After a while it starts to sink in, and she asks me if yogurt is "on the plan", still thinking this is a diet thing. I said "no" and it finally dawns on her that I'm not eating dairy products in general. So she slyly says "so I guess this means you can't eat chocolate, either?" and I cheerfully inform her that dark chocolate usually doesn't have milk. Of course, later on that night she was offering me garlic bread with butter on it, but I wasn't in the mood to correct her on that one.<br><br><br><br>
However, there's one mind-boggling remark that never ceases to puzzle me. She tells me that I can't just become a vegetarian right away because I have to go on a liquid fast to cleanse my body of toxins, or else the shock will make me sick. WTF?<br><br>
"Where on Earth did you get that nonsense?"<br><br>
"A lot of health experts say this."<br><br>
"What kind of quack health experts have you been listening to?" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/inquisitive.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":stinkeye:"><br><br>
"Whatever!" she says, as if someone who previously thought that vegetarians eat chicken is an expert on the subject, and that someone who's been considering vegetarianism for years hasn't done any research on the health and nutrition aspects.<br><br>
Geez, and people stereotype vegetarians as being clueless new age hippie-flakes. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:"><br><br><br><br>
Oh well, she'll learn over time. I suppose I should wait a little bit to inform her about gelatin in various food products and how some vegetable soups, canned beans, etc. have meat broth or pork fat in them. Baby steps and whatnot.
 

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Liquid fasting is more for people with internal problems such as Crohn's Disease. Liquid fasting is a good thing for cleansing your insides and it promotes natural healing. However, if you aren't sick, then there's no need for this step.<br><br><br><br>
Congratulations on your decision to go veg*an! From the sounds of it, you plan to go vegan, which is wonderful!<br><br><br><br>
My mother tries to slip stuff into some things she makes, even though I am allergic to dairy. It's terribly sad.<br><br><br><br>
Best of luck with your mother. You should do some research and present it to her. Show her that your choices are well-informed. Also, missing certain foods is part of the beginning process, but the way to beat that is to simply find new foods that you love. There was once a time I couldn't live without hot dogs, so when I went vegan I invested in vegan Sausage and hot dog substitutes. Now I don't even eat either of these subs. I have found many other things that I can enjoy. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Even I miss chocolate sometimes, and I hate dark chocolate, so I just make my own! It's not hard and it's just as delicious as milk chocolate [even my omni fiancé says so!].
 

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Liquid fasting is more for people with internal problems such as Crohn's Disease. Liquid fasting is a good thing for cleansing your insides and it promotes natural healing. However, if you aren't sick, then there's no need for this step.</div>
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I'm not sick or anything, I think she's just confused on the matter. I know that some people go on liquid fasts for various reasons, I've just never heard it associated with vegetarianism, let alone as something you "need" to do.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Congratulations on your decision to go veg*an! From the sounds of it, you plan to go vegan, which is wonderful!</div>
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Heh, I think for now it's gonna be 90% vegan/minimal lacto-ovo for now, considering that I'm not really the main one doing the shopping, and there's too many foods I enjoy that happen to be of the "would be vegan if it weren't for very tiny amounts of eggs/whey/whatever in it" variety around here most of the time. So I still eat those, I'll just avoid obvious meat/eggs/dairy and sweat the small stuff later.<br><br>
Of course, when I get myself a job (which'll probably be soon), I'll can do my own shopping and get to be one of those nit-picky label readers.<br><br><br><br>
(Although I'm not sure if I'll ever be good enough to join the Super-Elite Vegan Club, considering that I honestly don't mind consuming a bit of honey and I'm pretty "don't ask, don't tell" when it comes to medication incredients.)<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">My mother tries to slip stuff into some things she makes, even though I am allergic to dairy. It's terribly sad.</div>
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Yikes. My mom used to worry that I might be (mildly) lactose intolerant when I was younger, which I'm pretty sure it's true. I have a lot of digestive tract problems, meat and dairy products just make them worse.<br><br>
Despite this, yesterday she was telling me I could still eat a <i>little</i> bit of cheese, because I need my calcium. I then explained to her that plenty of vegetables have calcium in them and the bizarre notion that an adult mammal has to consume another species' milk to be healthy is dairy industry propaganda, not information from actual nutritionists. She got the idea.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Best of luck with your mother. You should do some research and present it to her. Show her that your choices are well-informed.</div>
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Yeah, I was thinking of maybe checking out some books about the health benefits of vegetarianism/veganism (I hear that <i>Diet For A Small Planet</i> and <i>The China Study</i> are good), along with a couple of cookbooks.<br><br>
Plus, I could try and explain to her that this isn't just a diet thing, I have numerous health, ethical, and enviromental reasons for doing it.<br><br><br><br>
On a slightly random note, I remember that when I first wanted to stop eating meat I was around 14 at the time I was just learning about factory farming and I was completely horrified to learn how badly the animals are treated and how unsanitary a lot of the industry practices are. I requested no meat in my food a couple of times and she was all "oh, that'd be difficult because it's in the sauce (and so on)" and just laughed it off. Apparently she just thought I was being weird and my fondness for animals didn't even cross her mind. Then she ended up seeing a book in my room on how to prevent animal cruelty and she just laughed and went all "oh, she's just going through a little animal rights phase, how cute!" Not only did they still keep serving me meat for dinner, but no more than two days later they served me veal without even telling me what it was at first! I'm pretty sure they're weren't <i>trying</i> to make me feel like crap, but...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/bigcry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":cry:"><br><br>
Around the same time, I look at a dieting book my mom had checked out that was written by several nutritionists who promoted vegetarianism for health reasons. And I was still stuck eating porkchops and anemic crate-calf. Ugh.<br><br><br><br>
I hate how people are allowed to "love animals" as long as they're puppies or pandas, but God forbid you boycott an industry that singlehandedly accounts for the most animal cruelty on the planet or else you're a crazy radical. It's a shame that the more moderate animal welfare groups like ASPCA stick to safer statements like telling people to neuter their pets but are too chicken (pardon the pun) to inform people of what goes on in farms and slaughterhouses. So the only time they ever hear about it is from the more extremist groups and the public ends up associating veg*nism with "those" people. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br>
(Then again, my parents didn't even bother spaying our cat.)<br><br><br><br>
Besides the animals, I ought to mention to my mom that the meat industry is also notorious for treating employees horribly. She worked at a Wal-Mart for several years and seriously considered writing an exposé from the inside because she was so disgusted by the company's practices. I'm pretty sure she could relate to me boycotting an industry that has highest rate of on-the-job accidents in the country, pays very little, and frequently employs cheap immigrant labor, all the while exposing the workers to numerous dangerous diseases.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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That's not too big a problem, I'm thinking more in terms of things that I <i>can</i> eat, not what I <i>can't</i> eat. Plus, I also have plenty of wonderful non-food things like music, books, movies, and art that I can use to fill up the gaping hole in my life I have from not eating cheese, jello, and M&Ms. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:"><br><br><br><br>
Honestly, I used to just eat out of boredom sometimes, even if I wasn't hungry and it didn't taste that great. Now I try to keep myself occupied and actually <i>do</i> things (going on walks, reading, etc.) instead of just eating junk food.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Even I miss chocolate sometimes, and I hate dark chocolate, so I just make my own! It's not hard and it's just as delicious as milk chocolate [even my omni fiancé says so!].</div>
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I like dark chocolate just fine, but I'd personally love to try my hand at making my own sweets!<br><br><br><br>
See, I think part of mom's problem is that she thinks too much in terms of looking for frozen dinners (usually meat subs) that are labled "vegetarian" while forgetting that grocery stores have tons of vegetarian food...you just have to do a little it more work than popping it in a microwave. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> And since I like cooking and trying out new recipes, I'd be happy to do this.<br><br>
Not to mention all of the veggies and fruits that are good raw.<br><br><br><br>
Maybe I ought to make some spaghetti with marinara sauce and portabella mushrooms while leaving out all that greasy ground beef, maybe add some sort of veggie side and some garlic bread with olive oil instead of butter, and say, "see, <i>this</i> is a vegetarian dinner!"
 

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We all do the best we can. I've been trying to avoid dairy and eggs, and I have had quite a few slipups lately, but in general I manage okay, and I still feel good that I'm not eating animal flesh and that I'm still making a difference. I think you should feel good, too, that whatever you're doing is still okay. IMHO no matter how much we try, we can't always achieve perfection in our diets.<br><br><br><br>
One question, though: What's with that interesting thread title? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thinking.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":think:">
 

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I make angel hair spaghetti with a regular spaghetti sauce from Ragu. Not all of them have meat in them. I have gotten the Roasted Garlic & Herb kind, and it's delicious. Then I get canned button mushrooms and put them in with the sauce. Voila! Delicious vegan spaghetti for about $5.<br><br><br><br>
My mother recently bought vegan parmesan for spaghetti as well, but it tastes fine without it to be honest.<br><br><br><br>
I love cooking vegan. I love making my own pancakes for breakfast, making my own chocolate, my own desserts, cooking my own dinner. I was never a very good cook, but I sure can follow instructions.<br><br><br><br>
As long as you and your mother can talk about this openly then I think you guys can come to terms on it. My mother never permitted such a thing, all she does is complain and it gets very frustrating and only maximizes the tensions between us.<br><br><br><br>
It's all about respect and acceptance.
 

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From what you have said so far it sounds like you have really done your research and you should do just fine. One of my favorite vegetarian meals. is pizza. You can buy ready made pizza crusts at the store. And then, you can control the amount of cheese (if any at all) you put on it. I put all sorts of stuff on my pizzas like squash, zucchini, broccoli, etc. It is so yum!
 

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We all do the best we can. I've been trying to avoid dairy and eggs, and I have had quite a few slipups lately, but in general I manage okay, and I still feel good that I'm not eating animal flesh and that I'm still making a difference. I think you should feel good, too, that whatever you're doing is still okay. IMHO no matter how much we try, we can't always achieve perfection in our diets.</div>
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Nicely said. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:"><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Amy SF</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
One question, though: What's with that interesting thread title? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thinking.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":think:"></div>
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It's referencing the same <i>Simpsons</i> that your user title does. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
Skinner: "Uh oh. Two independent thought alarms in one day. The students are overstimulated. Willie! Remove all the colored chalk from the classrooms."<br><br>
Willie: "I warned ye! Didn't I warn ye?!? That colored chalk was forged by Lucifer himself!"<br><br><br><br>
I dunno, I just thought that'd be a funny title that's appropriate in a completely obscure and bizarre way.
 

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I love angel hair pasta! Actually, I like pasta and noodles in general. And I used to eat mushrooms straight from the can.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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From what you have said so far it sounds like you have really done your research and you should do just fine. One of my favorite vegetarian meals. is pizza. You can buy ready made pizza crusts at the store. And then, you can control the amount of cheese (if any at all) you put on it. I put all sorts of stuff on my pizzas like squash, zucchini, broccoli, etc. It is so yum!</div>
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Hmm, I love broccoli, but I never tried it on pizza. Actually, I've seen a few cheeseless pizza recipes before. Since I love mushrooms so much, I know that's one more thing that's definately going on there.<br><br><br><br>
Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever even tried guacamole, even though I've had avacado before and liked it. It'd be great to have with tortilla chips.<br><br><br><br>
Actually, I was think of dipping some in tomato pesto. I think my mom did a silent "d'oh!" when she realized that it was the only part of future meal she bought last night that I would actually be eating. (She also got Italian sausage and cheese ravioli.)
 

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I hate how people are allowed to "love animals" as long as they're puppies or pandas, but God forbid you boycott an industry that singlehandedly accounts for the most animal cruelty on the planet or else you're a crazy radical.....<br><br>
Besides the animals, I ought to mention to my mom that the meat industry is also notorious for treating employees horribly. She worked at a Wal-Mart for several years and seriously considered writing an exposé from the inside because she was so disgusted by the company's practices. I'm pretty sure she could relate to me boycotting an industry that has highest rate of on-the-job accidents in the country, pays very little, and frequently employs cheap immigrant labor, all the while exposing the workers to numerous dangerous diseases.</div>
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<div class="quote-block">...I'm thinking more in terms of things that I can eat, not what I can't eat. Plus, I also have plenty of wonderful non-food things like music, books, movies, and art that I can use to fill up the gaping hole in my life I have from not eating cheese, jello, and M&Ms.</div>
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You're off to a great start! Congratulations!<br><br><br><br>
If you eat whatever acceptable food your folks are eating and prepare something for yourself when that isn't enough to satisfy you, perhaps your folks won't complain. I have a very used, tattered copy of <i>Diet For A Small Planet</i> too. After all these years it's still a favorite because of the tasty, simple recipes.
 

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Nicely said. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
It's referencing the same <i>Simpsons</i> that your user title does. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
Skinner: "Uh oh. Two independent thought alarms in one day. The students are overstimulated. Willie! Remove all the colored chalk from the classrooms."<br><br>
Willie: "I warned ye! Didn't I warn ye?!? That colored chalk was forged by Lucifer himself!"<br><br><br><br>
I dunno, I just thought that'd be a funny title that's appropriate in a completely obscure and bizarre way.</div>
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<br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/blush.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":eek:"> I forgot about that bit.
 

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I can't find decent fake cheese here, so I've been putting a bit of tofu on my pizzas lately to make them more filling. I press it and throw it in a blender with some olive oil, herbs, mustard, lemon juice and nuts. It's better than it sounds and doesn't even taste like tofu. Other than that, it's anything but the kitchen sink. Pineapple chunks, peppers, zucchini, mushrooms, olives, pine nuts, tomatoes, jalapenos, eggplant, onions, the mandatory garlic, corn, ginger...<br><br><br><br>
I think a little time and the help of a good veggie cookbook would go a long way towards "convincing" your mother if you offer to make a few meals. After all, it's not that hard to make something more interesting than most of the stuff you can buy pre-made. I'll bet something like <a href="http://veganyumyum.com/2007/01/quick-post-which-youll-probably/" target="_blank">this</a>, but with added mushrooms, garlic and wine would be delectable. Some romaine lettuce with garlicky croutons, olive oil, lemon juice and black pepper on the side and you're set. I'm more of a curry person, personally.
 

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This may sound wierd, but humor your Mom for now (not saying go on a liquid fast, but rather take what she says with a very small grain of salt). She's indirectly expressed a desire to go vegetarian herself and does not think you know anything about it. Give it another year, and I bet she'll be asking your advice on her going vegetarian. (Just do your own thing, though. No pressure on her.)
 

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Congratulations on going vegetarian! You seem very confident and informed; I wish you the best of luck. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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I can't find decent fake cheese here, so I've been putting a bit of tofu on my pizzas lately to make them more filling. I press it and throw it in a blender with some olive oil, herbs, mustard, lemon juice and nuts. It's better than it sounds and doesn't even taste like tofu.</div>
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That doesn't sound crazy actually, tofu's texture/consistancy is very similar to cottage/ricotta cheese. I ought to try mixing it with some spinach as well, since I like spinach ricotta.<br><br><br><br>
Of course, you know that doing this will just reinforce the stereotype that vegetarians put tofu on everything. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br>
(Not that I mind, heh.)<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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I think a little time and the help of a good veggie cookbook would go a long way towards "convincing" your mother if you offer to make a few meals. After all, it's not that hard to make something more interesting than most of the stuff you can buy pre-made. I'll bet something like <a href="http://veganyumyum.com/2007/01/quick-post-which-youll-probably/" target="_blank">this</a>, but with added mushrooms, garlic and wine would be delectable. Some romaine lettuce with garlicky croutons, olive oil, lemon juice and black pepper on the side and you're set.</div>
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That looks and sounds delicious. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/drool.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":drool:"><br><br>
I definately ought to try fixing it some time soon.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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I'm more of a curry person, personally.</div>
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I'm embarassed to admit that I've never eaten curry before, but it's only because I've never actually gotten the chance. I've contemplated hunting down some good recipes for making it, or trying it if I ever go to that new Indian restaurant in town.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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This may sound wierd, but humor your Mom for now (not saying go on a liquid fast, but rather take what she says with a very small grain of salt).</div>
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Yeah. I suppose as far as humoring goes, I won't harass her too much about little ingredients, and I'll still eat a little bit of cheese ravioli and butter here and there. I figure it's cool being minimally lacto-ovo for now, I figure that I can take it further when I'm able to do my own shopping and move out on my own.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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She's indirectly expressed a desire to go vegetarian herself and does not think you know anything about it. Give it another year, and I bet she'll be asking your advice on her going vegetarian. (Just do your own thing, though. No pressure on her.)</div>
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Actually, I never really got the impression of any indirect desire on her part. Personally, my main motivator at this point is my own health, preventing animal cruelty (as well as other unethical practices) just gives me more motivation to really commit to it. I'm not really the preachy type and I don't really care if someone wants me to heat up a chicken pot pie for them or whatever, so long as I'm not eating it.<br><br><br><br>
(Of course, if she IS asking for my advice by next year, I wouldn't object to helping her out.)
 

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Putting tofu on everything beats doing the same with cheese <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"> I actually thought it was horrible for a long time, since I hadn't tried preparing it myself and it wasn't seasoned enough when I first had some.<br><br><br><br>
There's a wide variety of inherently vegetarian Indian food, so I'd definitely give it a shot. The ingredients are fairly standard and easy to obtain. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=veggieboards.com-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMadhur-Jaffreys-World-Vegetarian-Meatless%2Fdp%2F0609809237%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_sr_1%2F105-7887207-2144431%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1173223052%26sr%3D8-1" target="_blank">World Vegetarian</a> is a good place to start, in my opinion - some pretty straightforward stuff and recipes from a variety of other cuisines too. Of course I'm biased...
 

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So, welcome to VB and the (sometimes bumpy) road to veg*ism! Sounds like you're headed in the right direction!<br><br><br><br>
I guess I'm not clear why you aren't responsible for buying your own groceries and cooking your own meals at your age? We have many members, younger than you, who do their own shopping and cooking. OR you could learn to cook a few wonderful vegan meals and surprise your Mom by making dinner one night a week or so?<br><br><br><br>
Even my 13-year-old plans dinner, decides what we need to purchase at the store and then makes dinner (totally vegan) for the family at least once a week or so. She LOVES cooking and even though it's usually just spaghetti or tacos, she does a great job!
 

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Putting tofu on everything beats doing the same with cheese <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"></div>
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There's a wide variety of inherently vegetarian Indian food, so I'd definitely give it a shot. The ingredients are fairly standard and easy to obtain. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=veggieboards.com-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMadhur-Jaffreys-World-Vegetarian-Meatless%2Fdp%2F0609809237%2Fref%3Dpd_bbs_sr_1%2F105-7887207-2144431%3Fie%3DUTF8%26s%3Dbooks%26qid%3D1173223052%26sr%3D8-1" target="_blank">World Vegetarian</a> is a good place to start, in my opinion - some pretty straightforward stuff and recipes from a variety of other cuisines too. Of course I'm biased...</div>
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Thanks! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:"><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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I guess I'm not clear why you aren't responsible for buying your own groceries and cooking your own meals at your age?</div>
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Actually, I do cook my own meals, there's just that there's usually not many options of foods to cook with. This is essentially a popcorn/frozen pizza/beanie-weenies household.<br><br>
I can't buy my own groceries because I don't have a driver's license, although this will thankfully change soon. Plus, I'm unemployed, which will also (hopefully) change soon.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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OR you could learn to cook a few wonderful vegan meals and surprise your Mom by making dinner one night a week or so?</div>
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That's what I'm planning on doing, actually. I've already made plenty of family dinners, it's just that 90% of them were either spaghetti (with the seemingly obligatory ground beef) or meatloaf.<br><br>
But I'm good at learning and picking things up pretty quickly.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Even my 13-year-old plans dinner, decides what we need to purchase at the store and then makes dinner (totally vegan) for the family at least once a week or so. She LOVES cooking and even though it's usually just spaghetti or tacos, she does a great job!</div>
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That's awesome. At that age I didn't know how to make anything except egg salad sandwiches.
 

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My mom made some smartassed remark about how she gives me a month before I go back to at least eating eggs and cheese, and my stepdad doesn't seem to care either way, but my sister is pretty cool about this.<br><br><br><br>
She actually knows what "vegan" means and that vegetarians don't eat chicken or fish without having to ask, most likely because one of her best friends is a vegetarian. She asked me if I was planning on becoming vegan because I had some rice milk in the fridge. I said "yes" and she said that she can't picture herself going vegan, but she said that she's occasionally thought of becoming a vegetarian, or at least cutting down on meat.<br><br><br><br>
And unlike mom, who complains about me wasting the spaghetti sauce and said that she was going to to buy more so she could have "real meat" with her cheese tortellini, my sister and her buds actually scarfed down my vegetarian spaghetti and Italian sausage earlier. Of course, they had the munchies and I was wanting to save more of it for later, but it was flattering all the same. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rockon.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rockon:">
 

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