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i've recently been introducted to good, high quality fanf'intastic techno...i love it. new order has always been a tiny bit on that side of things, and they've always been in my top five.<br><br>
however, mind you, i'm the last person on this planet who you would find grinding at a rave or club. hell no. but the music is pretty damn good. anyone with me here? if not you should be.<br><br>
i dont know enough about the whole thing to even act like i know what i'm talking about, but the two discs i've heard so far i'm a diggin.'
 

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What groups have you heard? There's a lot of great electronic music. It seems a lot of people are so stubborn about the idea of it, like, "Oh, there's no talent in that kind of music, I'm down with 'keeping it real with actual instruments.'" Good music is good music, no matter what you're using to make it.
 

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Heck no I would nevvvver laugh at you! No f-in way!<br><br><br><br>
It depends on what/who you mean by techno. Much like "rock" is an umbrella category including music from The Beatles to Blink 182, "Techno" is not a single type of music. Rather, it's a subset of electronic music, and has its own subsets within itself.<br><br><br><br>
Anywho, so who have you been listening to? I'm into electro-pop house like Ladytron, Telepopmusik, Miss Kitten & The Hacker, Ural 13, and so on. I also like progressive and housey break like Timo Maas, Bedrock, Dirty Vegas, and others blah blah blah...
 

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I'm still half & half on Ladytron. Some of their songs I really like but others I can't really get into. I think I'm going to go see them in Detroit. Maybe I'll appreciate them more after seeing them live.
 

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the two a friend gave me are : sasha and john digweed, northern exposure<br><br><br><br>
the other is james lavelle - i like that one better i think. just cause i don't dig female voices too much and there is a little bit of that on the first one i mentioned.<br><br><br><br>
i'll look into the ones you guys mentioned. yeah, most people give that ' it's not real music' crap. i've always appreciated techno just never got into it. and ok, i am using the term techno loosely i know...but like i said , i'm a novice thus far.
 

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i tried not to laugh heh. but seriously, more power to you if you find something that you enjoy. but i just need music with a little more feeling and intelligence rather than something that john doe can make on his computer. you know, intricate music that changes up tempo and has thoughtful lyrics and really hits your emotions, not repetitive, computer-fabricated beeps and bleeps that numb your mind. but that's just stubborn ol' me. if somehow you feel passionate about the music and it can really touch you, no matter how much i'm in disbelief that this can happen to people, then i'd say embrace it.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by stonecrest</i><br><br><b>i tried not to laugh heh. but seriously, more power to you if you find something that you enjoy. but i just need music with a little more feeling and intelligence rather than something that john doe can make on his computer. you know, intricate music that changes up tempo and has thoughtful lyrics and really hits your emotions, not repetitive, computer-fabricated beeps and bleeps that numb your mind. but that's just stubborn ol' me. if somehow you feel passionate about the music and it can really touch you, no matter how much i'm in disbelief that this can happen to people, then i'd say embrace it.</b></div>
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My guess is that you've had limited exposure to electronic music, from your description of what you think it is. While there is some truth to the idea that anyone can make this form of music, not everyone has the ability to do it good, and that's usually how you end up with a bunch of **** with the qualities you described. But, on the other side of the spectrum you have artists that make intelligent, complex, and beautiful music that is much more than "John Doe on his computer." Some are even mixing electronic with convential instruments with very interesting results. And while the computer does play a large role in some electronic music, this genre existed in some form way before computers were even being mass-produced, so that's definitely not the only means of making it. I realize people have their particular tastes in music, but I suggest you give it another chance because electronic is certainly more than what you think it is, and you just may be surprised by some of it. I could even steer you towards some good artists to check out, if you want.
 

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oh stonecrest. this one is going outside, boy.<br><br>
the music doenst move me like the waterboys, poi dog pondering, deacon blue, or a few of my other favorites, but i'm gonna agree with big wax hey-sus on this one. after the things i learned about the music (which isnt much yet) you'd be surprised. i couldnt make the stuff, i know that. i could do a lot better with a guitar and a notebook.<br><br>
i had the more or less negative view of the music but it's definitely not at all 'bleeps that numb your mind.'<br><br><br><br>
mister closed minded, stonecrest <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Funkified</i><br><br><b>the two a friend gave me are : sasha and john digweed, northern exposure</b></div>
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Sasha and Digweed are massive. Good stuff.<br><br><br><br>
All musics have their tops and bottoms. Rock is hardly lacking in brainless, inept, talentless "rockstars" and much of even the good rock is simple and musically mediocre. Almost all the bands that have surfaced in the last 2 years that are named "The _______s" are medicore musicians, at best.<br><br><br><br>
I'm going to assume you (Stonecrest) are not familiar with Autechre, or Aphex Twin, so describing the supreme complexity of their tracks would be fruitless. You probably haven't spent much time with Reason, a fabulous musician's tool, that (speaking from experience) can be used to expand the creativity of the artist as much an any "traditional" instrument ever made.<br><br><br><br>
True, there are many ways one can make simple, and often stupid, electronic music. But all I need is three chords to recreate some of rock's greatest and lamest tracks.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Max Power</i><br><br><b>Rock is hardly lacking in brainless, inept, talentless "rockstars" and much of even the good rock is simple and musically mediocre.</b></div>
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Isn't that the truth. One listen to commercial radio proves that.
 

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FWIW, I am also quite stubborn when it comes to defining what I'll listen to... I admittedly give little time or patience to anything not produced by living musicians actually playing an instrument. I'm much more apt to give a CD a try if I know the band plays their own musical instruments and writes and performs their own material. Heck, I won't even listen to stuff if it uses a keyboardm, let alone produced on a computer. Keyboards have no business being included in a rock band.<br><br><br><br>
Ironically, Van Halen achieved their greatest commercial success when they brought in Hagar and Eddie popped in some keyboards, but the music lacked any real quality compared to what they were doing earlier on with Roth.<br><br><br><br>
Lead, rythmn, bass guitars, a set of drums and perhaps a sax. Learn a few chords, perhaps a little 12 bar blues and its stuff I enjoy <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Having said that, I KNOW I have a closed mind in this regard. If you enjoy it Funk, that's all that matters really.<br><br><br><br>
[edit]I just realized, I have turned into my parents[/edit]
 

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i can't say who specifically i have been exposed to, but my freshman year roommate was a big fan of electronic sounds. he spent a lot of money on finding the music he listened to, rarer cds, and programs that you can use to make it (i forget which program but it was in excess of $1,000). if you'd like, i can ask him which artists he used to listen to.<br><br><br><br>
i don't think it's either stubborn or close-minded to have listened to music and not enjoy it. nor do i think it's stubborn to have high standards and expectations for music and find some music below this level.<br><br><br><br>
i just don't believe that the emotion in electronic music can ever reach the kind of emotion that music played by actual instruments can, that's what it boils down to. if you like it, great, enjoy it. and i'll enjoy my music <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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if you're moved by lyrics and music (which i sure as hell am) check into The Waterboys - Mike Scott is a superb, amazing musican. he writes all his stuff (and he and his boys have been around since 74 or so) and can play the instruments even though he's the lead singer. talk about emotional, moving music. if you can't appreciate that man's ability to write and play music, there is something wrong with you! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
i much prefer acoustic, live music/instrument type style - and i have a pretty wide selection of music tastes.<br><br><br><br>
what i don't like is when people just stand up there and sing....not a song they wrote, and they don't play any instrument. i said this somewhere else - sure they may have a decent voice but nah...they dont have much going for them. the songwriters deserve all the credit. that's where it's at.<br><br><br><br>
i hate anything that sounds generic. and i really don't like phish and the dead. dave matthews sucks. a lot.
 

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lets see i have been into electronic music for about 8 years or so. and i wouldnt laugh at ya. if you want some good music advice let me know!!<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by stonecrest</i><br><br><b>i just don't believe that the emotion in electronic music can ever reach the kind of emotion that music played by actual instruments can, that's what it boils down to. if you like it, great, enjoy it. and i'll enjoy my music <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"></b></div>
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They said the same thing about electric guitar and organ once upon a time, and look at what john hooker and ray charles did with them. heck, the snobs don't consider harmonica a "real insturment" either.
 

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hey -i'm all for music suggestions! go for it, ladyturtle (or anyone). ..i've heard more than the two i listed but i dont remember them righ tnow...good stuff!
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by kirkjobsluder</i><br><br><b>They said the same thing about electric guitar and organ once upon a time, and look at what john hooker and ray charles did with them. heck, the snobs don't consider harmonica a "real insturment" either.</b></div>
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"they", am i one of "them" now? and what is that supposed to mean anyway, that i'm not allowed to like electronic music because there are people that didn't (and don't) like the electric guitar?<br><br><br><br>
"the snobs".. such a beautifully delicate description..
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by stonecrest</i><br><br><b>"they", am i one of "them" now? and what is that supposed to mean anyway, that i'm not allowed to like electronic music because there are people that didn't (and don't) like the electric guitar?<br><br><br><br>
"the snobs".. such a beautifully delicate description..</b></div>
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you might be a snob if the insturments you like to listen to are "real" and what you don't like to listen to is not real.<br><br><br><br>
but the problem is not that you just leave it at "I don't like it." I can't stand the sound of bell choirs myself but I recognize that no small ammount of tallent goes into making and performing bell choir music. The emotion is not in the insturment, but in the peformer.
 

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There is definitely an art to producing great electronica. Not just ANYONE can mix and be a great DJ, just like not just anyone can sing or play guitar. Electronica is its own art form.<br><br><br><br>
I like Paul Oakenfold, Timo Maas, Sasha and Digweed, and I have an awesome CD called Hallucinogenic. It's probably my favorite CD of that genre.
 
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