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i've had my tartar removed today and it hurt like a little biatch, the dentist managed to cut most of my gums and i was bleeding for at least 3 hours then again in the evening without eating anything, plus i kept choking from the blood and water during the ''operation''. this looks like a pretty good clinic and i thought they said they'd use ultrasound for the tartat removal when we talked about it the last time. but i read that ultrasound is painless and you don't even feel it...nothing like what i had to go through. does anyone know if this is normal? do you think it was ultrasound, i mean how did she manage to cut my gums so much with it? if this was ultrasound, why do they say it's painless and uncomfortable for god's sake?<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/help.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":help:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/help.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":help:">
 

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Well umm I have never had whatever this is your talking about.<br><br>
How on earth did tarter build up so badly on your teeth?<br><br><br><br>
Now I had to have something called scaleing done once on some of my back teeth were there was some tarter under the gum line but it was not painful at all nor did my gums really bleed, I think around one tooth might have a little bit.<br><br><br><br>
But my guess is that it should not have been painful like you are describing
 

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Do you floss? I don't know anything about what you're describing, but if you don't floss your gums are liable to bleed during any dental procedure. I used to go through agony during routine cleanings until I started flossing a couple times a week.<br><br><br><br>
That sounds like a <i>lot</i> of blood though. In the future, I would go to a different dentist.
 

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Definitely sounds excessive to me. I hadn't been to the dentist in over 15 years...when I finally went it took three visits to do the cleaning. There was minimal bleeding and discomfort. Nothing like what you are describing.
 

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Maybe you should floss.<br><br><br><br>
When did you last go to the dentist? If you haven't been in years, then of course there's going to be blood everywhere. Sounds like you have gingivitis.
 

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I used to have a wonderful dentist that removed it with some kind of really high pressure water spray thing. That didnt hurt at all.<br><br>
The new butcher just has a pointy metal stick thing, and if he misses the tartar and hits the gums it bleeds. Im not sure this way is as efficient either, didnt really feel like he got it all.<br><br>
I suspect ultrasonic removal should feel more like the water thing than the pointy stick thing--maybe its time to find a new dentist.
 

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It sounds like they were being WAY too rough on you. Regardless of the shape of your teeth/gums or your sensitivity level, no cleaning should cause that much blood and discomfort. If I were you I would definitely find another dentist and do some research on them. Honestly, I would go to one that is known for working on children, because that means that they are likely to be more gentle (that's what I do). I would also talk with the new dentist about your experience and ask them what they believe happened with your last experience. I'm sure that a trained professional would probably know a lot better than any of us about what caused your situation. Good luck.
 

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Hi. I had to reply because I found your thread when I was searching the internet to find what tool my dentist used yesterday at my cleaning and why it hurt so effin bad. I happen to be vegetarian so I signed up on this site and wanted to say I feel your pain!! I was also bleeding like crazy and it hurt really bad during the procedure. My husband had the same thing done and agrees on the pain, although I think he bled less. We are in Germany and my German is still "under construction" so I had no idea if it was supposed to hurt like that or not... I definitely know what you went through but have no idea if it should or needs to be so painful. At cleanings in the US the dentists always used the scraping tool... anyway, I give my sympathy at least! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/bigcry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":cry:">
 

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It sounds like a deep dental scaling and they should have numbed your gums.<br><br>
Most dentists will only do one side of your mouth when you need to get this done, definately not the entire mouth.<br><br><br><br>
I've had it done and depending on the amount of tarter, you can have some bleeding, and some soreness AFTER the numbness wears off, but not during the procedure.<br><br><br><br>
As far as the tarter goes? Some peoples just builds up quicker than others and then if you can't/don't get to the dentist yearly for your cleanings, this can also cause excessive tarter build-up.<br><br><br><br>
So sorry to hear about your painful experience.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hug:">
 

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i agree that they probably shouldnt have been so agressive all at one shot...if it were that bad, most places will only do part of your mouth (usually one or two quadrants) at a visit.<br><br>
But there isnt really another way to remove tartar from your teeth, other than scaling. The reason your gums bled is b/c of the buildup of plaque in them...for example, if you flossed, you would noticed that you would have gotten some blood on the thread... how Dont floss and let the bacteria build up on your teeth and along the gumliine, you get tartar.<br><br>
Keeping your gums healthy is reeeeallly important. Gum disease has creates an inflammatory process in your body and its been seen to possibly be connected to heart disease.<br><br><br><br>
Keep up with good brushing...electric toothbrushes are really good for this... and definately FLOSS!! I was 21 when i started flossing, b/c my dental hygenist student BFF convinced me w/ her disgusting stories ... but it has made a HUGE difference.<br><br>
I was actually at the dentist this week and my probing depths (how deep they can push into your gums w./ a probe, this is when you may bleed, if you have bacteria buildup) were really great and i had very little tartar.<br><br>
Good hygiene also gets you out of the chair quicker!! lol.<br><br><br><br>
I hope you feel better!
 

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I haven't been to the dentist in a few years. Yes, I'm afraid of the dentist, but that's not why I avoid going.<br><br><br><br>
Ask your dentist's office when was the last time their autoclave* had a spore test. If they give you a straight answer and are even remotely polite about it, give the name and number of your dentist!!<br><br><br><br>
Most dentist/doctor's offices get extremely upset if you ask about this. Tattoo/piercing studios send their spore tests to an independent company for verification. Dentist/doctors' offices are "self-regulating" which leaves a lot of room for error, and when no one's looking, errors are easy to ignore.<br><br><br><br>
*An autoclave is the machine they <i>should</i> be using to sterilize their tools. Spores are very hearty micro-organisms. A spore test determines whether or not the autoclave can kill these spores. If it <i>can't</i> kill the spores, you could be transmitting blood-borne diseases from one patient to the next.
 

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I haven't been to the dentist in a few years. Yes, I'm afraid of the dentist, but that's not why I avoid going.<br><br><br><br>
Ask your dentist's office when was the last time their autoclave* had a spore test. If they give you a straight answer and are even remotely polite about it, give the name and number of your dentist!!<br><br><br><br>
Most dentist/doctor's offices get extremely upset if you ask about this. Tattoo/piercing studios send their spore tests to an independent company for verification. Dentist/doctors' offices are "self-regulating" which leaves a lot of room for error, and when no one's looking, errors are easy to ignore.<br><br><br><br>
*An autoclave is the machine they <i>should</i> be using to sterilize their tools. Spores are very hearty micro-organisms. A spore test determines whether or not the autoclave can kill these spores. If it <i>can't</i> kill the spores, you could be transmitting blood-borne diseases from one patient to the next.</div>
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To imply that dentists tools are less hygenic than tattoo parlors is inaccurate, a scare-tactic and a gross over-generalization. What sources do you have for this?<br><br><br><br>
Dental offices have different regulations from state to state and from country to country, but OSHA standards for dental equipment are usually equivalent to a physicians office or even a hospital.<br><br><br><br>
How many dental offices did you interview? All over the country or just in one area?<br><br><br><br>
(R-e-e-a-l-l-y old thread btw)
 

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To imply that dentists tools are less hygenic than tattoo parlors is inaccurate, a scare-tactic and a gross over-generalization. What sources do you have for this?<br><br><br><br>
Dental offices have different regulations from state to state and from country to country, but OSHA standards for dental equipment are usually equivalent to a physicians office or even a hospital.<br><br><br><br>
How many dental offices did you interview? All over the country or just in one area?<br><br><br><br>
(R-e-e-a-l-l-y old thread btw)</div>
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Note, I didn't necromance this thread. I place that blame entirely on someone else!<br><br><br><br>
Also, doctor's offices and hospitals generally aren't very clean, either. Ever seen your dentist walk into the room with gloves on? How do you know those are fresh? I've personally spoken to a nurse that was really proud of herself for getting all the staff on her floor at the hospital to change gloves in between patients instead of just putting Purell on them.<br><br><br><br>
How many hospitals/doctors office/dentists offices post their spore test results in full view of the public? How many tattoo/piercing studios do the same?<br><br><br><br>
'Nuff said.
 

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Ever seen your dentist walk into the room with gloves on?</div>
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No. They always wash their hands, put fresh ones on, right out of a box, in plain view. My dentist. My childrens' dentist. The orthodontist. Never seen otherwise. Which is why I question your blanket statements. Must be a difference in regions/countries/states...<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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How many hospitals/doctors office/dentists offices post their spore test results in full view of the public?</div>
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Again, this must be a regional thing?<br><br>
I actually called my dentist this morning, out of curiosity. State Regulations require them posted at the desk "in full view of the public". She's never heard of any place where they aren't.<br><br><br><br>
The medical industry isn't always perfectly clean, of course, neither are tattoo parlors, nail salons, tanning beds, hot tubs... whatever. You do need to exercise caution, be ACCURATELY informed and ask questions to protect yourself as much as possible; but in the case of dental offices, avoiding dental care in general, just because you heard or read something negative about a particular place, can have consequences that greatly affect your health.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Tofu-N-Sprouts</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
No. They always wash their hands, put fresh ones on, right out of a box, in plain view. My dentist. My childrens' dentist. The orthodontist. Never seen otherwise. Which is why I question your blanket statements. Must be a difference in regions/countries/states...<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Again, this must be a regional thing?<br><br>
I actually called my dentist this morning, out of curiosity. State Regulations require them posted at the desk "in full view of the public". She's never heard of any place where they aren't.<br><br><br><br>
The medical industry isn't always perfectly clean, of course, neither are tattoo parlors, nail salons, tanning beds, hot tubs... whatever. You do need to exercise caution, be ACCURATELY informed and ask questions to protect yourself as much as possible; but in the case of dental offices, avoiding dental care in general, just because you heard or read something negative about a particular place, can have consequences that greatly affect your health.</div>
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I've found ONE dentist in my travels that advertises the results of their spore tests. Here, I know of a doctor's office that decided not to remove stitches because they didn't even HAVE an autoclave.<br><br><br><br>
Hospitals here use vinyl gloves. Those do not protect anyone against Hepatits or HIV, the matrix in the gloves is large enough to let HIV and Hep through. Hospitals use them. they COULD be using nitrile, which breaks immediately if it has a hole, and protects fully against bloodborne pathogens.<br><br><br><br>
They use iodine as surgical prep, which has a SCRUB time of 5 minutes. They COULD be using Techni-Care, which has a total prep time of 30 seconds. Put it on your skin and in 30 seconds, it's ready for surgery. They don't use it because it's too expensive.<br><br><br><br>
As far as the area where I live, I am accurately informed, thanks.<br><br><br><br>
You are lucky to have a clean dentist's office, believe me. I envy that.<br><br><br><br>
Let's agree to disagree, <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/lipsrsealed2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":sealed:"> and send this thread back to the grave from whence it came!
 
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