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Absolutely not.<br><br>
I've thought about it in the sense that I know some people do it, others at least seriously consider it, and that there's always been a philosophical discussion about it. But I can't remember ever considering it as an option for myself. When I think about my own death, I think about what I'll be missing... how if I'm happy, I want more days of happiness... and if I'm unhappy, how I want to experience happiness again.<br><br>
But most of all, I think about how I would generally want an animal to live the longest, happiest life possible. If I were to step outside myself, look at myself objectively, and ask myself if Tom's life has about as much reason to continue as the lives of the animals Tom would try his damndest NOT to kill... his cats; his rabbits; his gerbils; his hamster; squirrels and pigeons raising families under the eaves of his house; his goldfishes; the woodchuck who followed a Scorched-Earth Policy Of Total War against Tom's beans last year; hell, even the grasshoppers and crickets in his yard... I'd generally say yes, my life has enough going on that's good for me to want to keep it.<br><br>
Suicide is tragic- but doubly so that the people who do it are often those who least deserve to die.
I've thought about it in the sense that I know some people do it, others at least seriously consider it, and that there's always been a philosophical discussion about it. But I can't remember ever considering it as an option for myself. When I think about my own death, I think about what I'll be missing... how if I'm happy, I want more days of happiness... and if I'm unhappy, how I want to experience happiness again.<br><br>
But most of all, I think about how I would generally want an animal to live the longest, happiest life possible. If I were to step outside myself, look at myself objectively, and ask myself if Tom's life has about as much reason to continue as the lives of the animals Tom would try his damndest NOT to kill... his cats; his rabbits; his gerbils; his hamster; squirrels and pigeons raising families under the eaves of his house; his goldfishes; the woodchuck who followed a Scorched-Earth Policy Of Total War against Tom's beans last year; hell, even the grasshoppers and crickets in his yard... I'd generally say yes, my life has enough going on that's good for me to want to keep it.<br><br>
Suicide is tragic- but doubly so that the people who do it are often those who least deserve to die.
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Sorry that it's in your thoughts and I'm glad that it doesn't seem to be a real option for you (or so I hope!). If thoughts of suicide are worrisome for you, it may be a good idea to seek help although you may want to clarify to whoever you see that they're only thoughts and you have no intention of acting on them (if this is true for you).<br><br>
During depressive episodes, I felt it was an option for me (won't go into detail here) and during severe periods, I was brought to or checked myself into a hospital. Have been seeing a good therapist for a couple years and I'm on the right meds so it's been much easier to cope with less severe lows. I will still think about it but in the moment, I don't consider it a real option and one of the thoughts I have instead is,'Who would take care of my mice?! I don't want to miss time spent with them.' I try to collect reasons as to why I'd like to or need to live and it can be very tough! When I was especially having trouble with this, my therapist actually assigned me a week to come up with up to 100 reasons to live, no matter how big or small. Is this something that would help you if you feel the need?
During depressive episodes, I felt it was an option for me (won't go into detail here) and during severe periods, I was brought to or checked myself into a hospital. Have been seeing a good therapist for a couple years and I'm on the right meds so it's been much easier to cope with less severe lows. I will still think about it but in the moment, I don't consider it a real option and one of the thoughts I have instead is,'Who would take care of my mice?! I don't want to miss time spent with them.' I try to collect reasons as to why I'd like to or need to live and it can be very tough! When I was especially having trouble with this, my therapist actually assigned me a week to come up with up to 100 reasons to live, no matter how big or small. Is this something that would help you if you feel the need?
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Nope, I've never thought about it, but i think people that do it are fine, it's what they want. If they think they're life is really that bad, then more power to 'em.</div>
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I'm not sure what you meant by your post, but is possible to muster up some sympathy for somebody who's obviously dealing with problems?<br><br>
Hey Rainbow. I used to think about it quite regularly <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="
"> I don't think I was at risk of actually going through with it, but the thought was there. I've been trying to get more involved in the community. I volunteer at the SPCA, I donate alot of money to charities, I'm a vegan. The least I could do is live my life to help others. That idea brought me some happiness. The idea passes eventually, then you can focus a little more on things to make yourself happier <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""><br><br>
As Rotoshave said, do you have a therapist? Or if you just need someone to listen, me and many others would be more than willing <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""><br><br>
All the best.
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Nope, I've never thought about it, but i think people that do it are fine, it's what they want. If they think they're life is really that bad, then more power to 'em.</div>
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I'm not sure what you meant by your post, but is possible to muster up some sympathy for somebody who's obviously dealing with problems?<br><br>
Hey Rainbow. I used to think about it quite regularly <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="
"> I don't think I was at risk of actually going through with it, but the thought was there. I've been trying to get more involved in the community. I volunteer at the SPCA, I donate alot of money to charities, I'm a vegan. The least I could do is live my life to help others. That idea brought me some happiness. The idea passes eventually, then you can focus a little more on things to make yourself happier <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""><br><br>As Rotoshave said, do you have a therapist? Or if you just need someone to listen, me and many others would be more than willing <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="
"><br><br>All the best.
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I'm not sure what you meant by your post, but is possible to muster up some sympathy for somebody who's obviously dealing with problems?<br><br>
Hey Rainbow. I used to think about it quite regularly <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""> I don't think I was at risk of actually going through with it, but the thought was there. I've been trying to get more involved in the community. I volunteer at the SPCA, I donate alot of money to charities, I'm a vegan. The least I could do is live my life to help others. That idea brought me some happiness. The idea passes eventually, then you can focus a little more on things to make yourself happier <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""><br><br>
As Rotoshave said, do you have a therapist? Or if you just need someone to listen, me and many others would be more than willing <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""><br><br>
All the best.</div>
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No, He asked if we had ever thought about it. I simply responded to his question by saying no, I haven't, and that if that's really what they want in the end, it is their choice, which it is.
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I'm not sure what you meant by your post, but is possible to muster up some sympathy for somebody who's obviously dealing with problems?<br><br>
Hey Rainbow. I used to think about it quite regularly <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="
"> I don't think I was at risk of actually going through with it, but the thought was there. I've been trying to get more involved in the community. I volunteer at the SPCA, I donate alot of money to charities, I'm a vegan. The least I could do is live my life to help others. That idea brought me some happiness. The idea passes eventually, then you can focus a little more on things to make yourself happier <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""><br><br>As Rotoshave said, do you have a therapist? Or if you just need someone to listen, me and many others would be more than willing <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="
"><br><br>All the best.</div>
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No, He asked if we had ever thought about it. I simply responded to his question by saying no, I haven't, and that if that's really what they want in the end, it is their choice, which it is.
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I thought about it a lot when I was younger and very depressed. I mostly thought about why I should do it (or what reasons I had to live) and then the aftermath. I never thought in detail about how I would go about doing it. I guess the fact that I never planned it out (I'm not impulsive.) is a pretty good sign that I never would have actually gone through with it.<br><br>
I'm glad that you're not seriously considering it.
I'm glad that you're not seriously considering it.
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Suicide is never the answer <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""><br>
Life is beautiful on the other side. You just need help to find the way to get there.<br>
Go see a psychologist ;o)<br><br>
also, some quotes i found that helps depressed / down moods:<br>
- rule number one to be happy in life: Don't base your life off others.<br>
- Perfect is often the enemy of good.<br>
- Everything Has It's Beauty but Not Everyone Sees It.<br>
- EVERYTHING WILL BE OKAY IN THE END. IF IT'S NOT OKAY, IT'S NOT THE END.<br>
- Count your blessings<br>
- Obstacles are those things you see only when you take your eyes off your goal.
"><br>Life is beautiful on the other side. You just need help to find the way to get there.<br>
Go see a psychologist ;o)<br><br>
also, some quotes i found that helps depressed / down moods:<br>
- rule number one to be happy in life: Don't base your life off others.<br>
- Perfect is often the enemy of good.<br>
- Everything Has It's Beauty but Not Everyone Sees It.<br>
- EVERYTHING WILL BE OKAY IN THE END. IF IT'S NOT OKAY, IT'S NOT THE END.<br>
- Count your blessings<br>
- Obstacles are those things you see only when you take your eyes off your goal.
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I was hospitalized last month for attempted suicide, I still struggle with the thoughts of it daily. I don't really care to talk about it in detail on a public forum, but if you need someone to talk with you're welcome to PM me.
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No, He asked if we had ever thought about it. I simply responded to his question by saying no, I haven't, and that if that's really what they want in the end, it is their choice, which it is.</div>
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Ahh, my apologies. It sounded a little harsh earlier.
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No, He asked if we had ever thought about it. I simply responded to his question by saying no, I haven't, and that if that's really what they want in the end, it is their choice, which it is.</div>
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Ahh, my apologies. It sounded a little harsh earlier.
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Ahh, my apologies. It sounded a little harsh earlier.</div>
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No, i really didn't mean it that way. If it came across as such I'm sorry >.<
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Ahh, my apologies. It sounded a little harsh earlier.</div>
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No, i really didn't mean it that way. If it came across as such I'm sorry >.<
Yes. Everyday.<br><br>
But I'm too damn cowardly to do it and scared about failing it. (I mean, I've failed everything else in my life, why should this be any different?)<br><br>
Now, if I could figure out a way that wouldn't be <i>too</i> painful and has no chance of failing then I would get out of this life like a shot... (Pun intended.. Guns are illegal in the UK so that option is gone <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/brood.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":brood:"> )
But I'm too damn cowardly to do it and scared about failing it. (I mean, I've failed everything else in my life, why should this be any different?)<br><br>
Now, if I could figure out a way that wouldn't be <i>too</i> painful and has no chance of failing then I would get out of this life like a shot... (Pun intended.. Guns are illegal in the UK so that option is gone <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/brood.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":brood:"> )
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Yes. I think about it. Certainly not all the time, but I do think about it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thinking.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":think:"></div>
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I have, but too many others rely on me to actually take it seriously. My 'whoa is me' moods don't last.
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Yes. I think about it. Certainly not all the time, but I do think about it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thinking.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":think:"></div>
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I have, but too many others rely on me to actually take it seriously. My 'whoa is me' moods don't last.
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I have, but too many others rely on me to actually take it seriously. My 'whoa is me' moods don't last.</div>
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My thoughts don't necessarily coincide with "woe is me" moments. I have actually thought about it it in more practical ways - I don't want to hang around if I'm diagnosed with dementia, I don't ever want to go through chemotherapy, tell me I have ALS - and I'm out of here. Seriously - there are just some things that I do not want to go through and won't.
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I have, but too many others rely on me to actually take it seriously. My 'whoa is me' moods don't last.</div>
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My thoughts don't necessarily coincide with "woe is me" moments. I have actually thought about it it in more practical ways - I don't want to hang around if I'm diagnosed with dementia, I don't ever want to go through chemotherapy, tell me I have ALS - and I'm out of here. Seriously - there are just some things that I do not want to go through and won't.
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My thoughts don't necessarily coincide with "woe is me" moments. I have actually thought about it it in more practical ways - I don't want to hang around if I'm diagnosed with dementia, I don't ever want to go through chemotherapy, tell me I have ALS - and I'm out of here. Seriously - there are just some things that I do not want to go through and won't.</div>
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oh, well sure. Same here. Finish me earlier than serious suffering.
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My thoughts don't necessarily coincide with "woe is me" moments. I have actually thought about it it in more practical ways - I don't want to hang around if I'm diagnosed with dementia, I don't ever want to go through chemotherapy, tell me I have ALS - and I'm out of here. Seriously - there are just some things that I do not want to go through and won't.</div>
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oh, well sure. Same here. Finish me earlier than serious suffering.
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My thoughts don't necessarily coincide with "woe is me" moments. I have actually thought about it it in more practical ways - I don't want to hang around if I'm diagnosed with dementia, I don't ever want to go through chemotherapy, tell me I have ALS - and I'm out of here. Seriously - there are just some things that I do not want to go through and won't.</div>
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Did you ever see the movie "You don't know Jack"? It's really good and makes your head bend for the people who go for assisted suicide.
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Poppy</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2860417"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
My thoughts don't necessarily coincide with "woe is me" moments. I have actually thought about it it in more practical ways - I don't want to hang around if I'm diagnosed with dementia, I don't ever want to go through chemotherapy, tell me I have ALS - and I'm out of here. Seriously - there are just some things that I do not want to go through and won't.</div>
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Did you ever see the movie "You don't know Jack"? It's really good and makes your head bend for the people who go for assisted suicide.
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Did you ever see the movie "You don't know Jack"? It's really good and makes your head bend for the people who go for assisted suicide.</div>
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No - but thanks, I'll watch it.
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Did you ever see the movie "You don't know Jack"? It's really good and makes your head bend for the people who go for assisted suicide.</div>
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No - but thanks, I'll watch it.
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