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VEGETARIANISM VEGETARIANS claim their diet will give them a longer and healthier<br><br><br><br>
life, and a stronger body. To test the idea, the BBC took 12 vegetarians and asked half to eat meat for a few months.<br><br><br><br>
By the end the meat eaters were stronger and could run faster than those who stuck to a vegetarian diet.<br><br><br><br>
Scientists attributed this to the extra iron levels in their diet.<br><br><br><br>
Meanwhile champion hurdler Colin Jackson was put on a vegetarian diet for a month, and by the end he was significantly weaker.<br><br><br><br>
Other studies have shown that a diet high in red meat can raise the risk of some cancers.<br><br><br><br>
Experts therefore advise people to have small amounts of red meat in their diet to boost levels of iron and other minerals, while helping avoid raising their cancer risk.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/785391/detox_diets_useless__our_bodies_dont_need_any_help/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/...elp/index.html</a>
 

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That's a very low sample size. I don't buy it.
 

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>> sample size<br><br><br><br>
not just a sample size issue<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
- meat eating scientists/researchers will always give meat eating advice<br><br><br><br>
- meat eating doctors/nutritionists will always suggest you to eat meat
 

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^ good point.<br><br><br><br>
besides, as Poop mentioned, you can't base a whole stud on 12 "vegetarians". what about the millions of clinically obese meateaters, and vegan athletes there are in the world??
 

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ya i dont buy that. im a perfect example of the opposite. on a meat diet my fastest 5k was 20:10. then when i went on a vegetarian diet my 5k went down to 17:04. also im not sure if this is really impressive but i can bench more then my own body weight. im 6'0 148 pounds
 

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How on earth did the BBC find 12 vegetarians who were actually willing to eat meat in the first place? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Amy SF</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
How on earth did the BBC find 12 vegetarians who were actually willing to eat meat in the first place? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:"></div>
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haha, good point.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Amy SF</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
How on earth did the BBC find 12 vegetarians who were actually willing to eat meat in the first place? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:"></div>
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I guess money talks louder than their principles, assuming they are vegetarian for ethical reasons.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Vrindavan1</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><br>
- meat eating scientists/researchers will always give meat eating advice<br><br><br><br>
- meat eating doctors/nutritionists will always suggest you to eat meat</div>
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This is unfair and untrue.<br><br><br><br>
Bear in mind that the article is a summation written by a reporter. The "scientists" credited the difference to iron levels, not meat intake. The "experts" later mentioned are unidentified and are quite likely entirely different people, if they exist at all. I wonder what they are experts of.<br><br><br><br>
To me this is more a case of miserable journalism than anything else.
 

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life, and a stronger body. To test the idea, the BBC took 12 vegetarians and asked half to eat meat for a few months.<br></div>
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So I wonder what they mean by vegetarians. Ones that eat nothing but cheese pizza and oreos? Well, yeah that meat will give you a boost in performance.<br><br><br><br>
How about they take some raw vegans and place them against some health conscience omni's to judge performance - and use a larger sample size.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Oh and yeah, if they were real vegetarians, they would have never ate the meat - therefore they weren't real vegetarians, and the study is screwed up even more.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Lawls aym dem vegatarn bot i ate cloms on dem fesh, and dem lotz uv chese! An aye wel shur ate dem meet fur dem stoody tu pruve dat mete es nut gude fore popel. gemme mor dem chese pezza!!! yom yom yom yom.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Amy SF</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
How on earth did the BBC find 12 vegetarians who were actually willing to eat meat in the first place? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:"></div>
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<br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:"> I am wondering as well...
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Amy SF</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
How on earth did the BBC find 12 vegetarians who were actually willing to eat meat in the first place? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:"></div>
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They have these semi-secret S&M clubs in London, stocked with vegetarian masochists who wear signs that say: "Beat me! Whip me! Make me eat meat!"
 

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The entire article is laughable, really. That's the kind of "science" that might appear on the last few pages of the <i>National Enquirer</i>. I might be interested in a decent, scientifically sound study with an adequate sample group and good controls, but this clearly isn't it.<br><br>
And a vegetarian diet is not necessarily iron deficient, as the article might lead a reader to believe.
 

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They have these semi-secret S&M clubs in London, stocked with vegetarian masochists who wear signs that say: "Beat me! Whip me! Make me eat meat!"</div>
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<br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:">
 
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