Yes.Originally Posted by Rotoshave
Sorry, I know this thread is old, but I've been wondering whether there are any straight edge people currently on this forum.
Very astute. Or, more accurately from your further comments, society is driven by compulsive behavior and impulse based on a steady stream of information causing them to think there is something lacking in their lives.It seems to me that modern society revolves around addiction.
Right on, I think you have correctly identified who really runs things.Since the dominant social structure of our time is the corporation it seems like we are being given social roles to fit with the capitalistic model.
"Kill your TV" as we used to say.Thankfully I don 't have a tv, so no temptation there.
I don't think sXe's relation to punk should really matter. If you want to cut down on your dependencies, do it because you want to have more control over your life or because you don't want to submit to social pressures or because you want to have more energy for more constructive purposes -- but not because you want to be able to attach the sXe label to yourself.Originally Posted by Rotoshave
Do you consider sXe intractably linked with the punk movement? Cause I'm not really a fan of punk. But there is a hedonism in society in general that really puts me off, and I would like to live my life as an example of a different way to live.
I've never done any kind of drugs (expect for appropriate medication) but I diverge on what you say above. I don't object to depedencies on tv or the Internet, and I'm not a big fan of community.It seems to me that modern society revolves around addiction. Not just to drugs, alcohol, caffeine, i.e. physical substances; but also to actions and ways of being like shopping, television, the interwebs, etc. I see this as profoundly destructive of community. It also seems to me to be a tool society uses to pacify and resistance movements. After all changes only comes when it is a function of community, not individuals. And by using these addictions to weaken basic human community, it is much easier to create that apathetic pessimist who knows something is wrong but is to lazy to do anything about it.
True, but I see this as a shallow kind of community that just reinforces individualism. It is a kind of community people seek out because of their lonliness, and they can only find it through drugs or alcohol, using a substance as social lubrication. It reinforces people's inability to develop well honed community skills.Originally Posted by Sevenseas
I see drugs, especially alcohol, as, on the contrary, important in maintaining communities. A lot of shared activities are organized around drinking, and drinking lowers people's inhibitions for interacting with others, thereby maybe enabling more relationships. However, I still don't want to do something just because our culture enforces it as a norm.
I don't know.. If you think about the people in a small town or village getting together at a British pub, or people at work saying "wanna have a beer afterwards?", I don't think it's really about loneliness.Originally Posted by Rotoshave
True, but I see this as a shallow kind of community that just reinforces individualism. It is a kind of community people seek out because of their lonliness, and they can only find it through drugs or alcohol, using a substance as social lubrication. It reinforces people's ability to develop well honed community skills.