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Hey all ive been vegan for a lil while now na di wanted to know how you stay vegan when in this owrld it is so much easier to even be vegatarian? like when out with people or ingredients in things ect?<br><br>
I know meat is unhealthy ect but how bad is it to be a vegatarian compared to vegan like if i ate cheese and lets say .. like some ingrediants werent or is it really that much healthier to be vegan?
 

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Hey all ive been vegan for a lil while now na di wanted to know how you stay vegan when in this owrld it is so much easier to even be vegatarian? like when out with people or ingredients in things ect?<br><br>
I know meat is unhealthy ect but how bad is it to be a vegatarian compared to vegan like if i ate cheese and lets say .. like some ingrediants werent or is it really that much healthier to be vegan?</div>
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I've found that dairy had a much worse effect on my body than meat did honestly, when I stopped eating dairy my skin cleared up and I lost some weight and my stomach stopped getting upset so frequently.<br><br>
And besides the personal benefits there are a lot of really good reasons to ditch dairy. Did you know that cows have to be impregnated to be milked and their babies are taken away and killed for veal? Plus dairy cows themselves don't get to retire and are slaughtered when their production starts to wane, so in terms of cruelty dairy is even worse than just raising animals for meat in a lot of ways.<br><br>
Change is always kind of hard at first but the longer you go the more used to it you get until being vegan is second nature and you couldn't imagine going back. Try buying some cookbooks and experimenting with new tasty recipes! There are a lot of mind blowing vegan dishes out there that are a lot healthier and cruelty free <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br>
Check out these threads too, they are full of great ideas:<br><br><a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/showthread.php?61253-30-Day-Vegan-Challenge" target="_blank">http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/sh...egan-Challenge</a><br><br><a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/showthread.php?79707-What-did-you-eat-vegan-today" target="_blank">http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/sh...at-vegan-today</a><br><br>
And here's Ellen's new site, it's full of great tips and recipes:<br><br><a href="http://vegan.ellen.warnerbros.com/" target="_blank">http://vegan.ellen.warnerbros.com/</a><br><br>
Hope that helps! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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Hey all ive been vegan for a lil while now na di wanted to know how you stay vegan when in this owrld it is so much easier to even be vegatarian? like when out with people or ingredients in things ect?</div>
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I agree finding food in new environments is always a challenge esp is you hang out with omni or vegetarian friends. It can be a little difficult to get into the mindset but now I don't even think of eggs or dairy as food. People (omnis) are idiots about it and make it even more difficult.<br>
Pretty much I watched <a href="http://www.earthlings.com/" target="_blank">earthlings</a> or other videos about veganism to help get in the mindset as well as talking to other vegans.<br>
Edit: Also if you want to know why cheese is physically addictive and everyone likes it watch <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VWi6dXCT7I" target="_blank">this</a>. It is very dull and scholarly so there is also the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es6U00LMmC4" target="_blank">best speech you will ever hear</a> which is easier to understand.
 

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One thing that I find helps if I'm going out... I look at the menu at home before going to the restaurant. It gives me a chance to think about what's already vegan, what I need to ask about, and what can be veganized. I go to the restaurant already having a plan.<br><br>
At home, I've found it's important for me to keep a well-stocked cupboard and fridge. When my cupboard is a bit bare, I start contemplating what I wish I had to eat. That tends to bring to mind foods I used to eat. If I have lots of great food options, I don't even think about things like eggs or dairy. I focus on choosing between the delicious vegan options that I have available.
 

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I've found it easier and more interesting for me to be a vegan. In fact, I just went from vegetarian to vegan a couple of months ago, and feel SO much better without that dairy! :'D When I used to have dairy, I got frequent stomach aches and I just couldn't tolerate it anymore. >.< My biggest problem was eggs. Man, eggs would make me feel like I'd wanna throw up from them....even having had 'em in my mouth made me gag, and I rarely ever ate eggs in my life (or current teen years as far as I can remember) because of that. o.o<br><br>
I do lots of nutrition research as a vegan, however, and my research mixes well with the science logics I study as well! c: but, I won't lecture about my research here. XD
 

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I'm vegan and I love it - but it is understandable that some vegans find it very difficult to eat out - and Werewolf Girl has some very intelligent points about animal cruelty to which you should take into consideration if you are vegetarian because of the welfare of animals.<br><br>
When I go out with friends, if there is nothing on the menu that I can eat (usually when its somewhere I know isn't catering of vegans, or does not have a website menu etc) - I will eat a vegetarian meal as although I am a vegan for animal welfare, me getting ill through not eating, binging when I get home because I'm so hungry or looking like an idiot by refusing to eat is not going to make a positive point to those around me. I know its not a part of my ethics but omnis usually say that that is sensible and always comment on how nice the vegetarian/vegan meals look - and even have decided to have the same as me <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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If you don't eat out that much, like maybe once a week, your health probably won't suffer too much from eating dairy or eggs in something. If you really want to stay vegan, try to figure out in advance if the place has vegan options or if something can be modified to be vegan.<br><br>
When your friends/family want to go somewhere that you know has nothing you can eat, try to suggest a different place. You can carry granola bars or something else that won't spoil with you for back-up. Some people may think it's weird, but if they're adamant about going somewhere they know has little to no options for you, then they can deal with it. Here's a site that may help you get familiar with the vegan options in your area.<br><br><a href="http://www.veganeatingout.com/" target="_blank">http://www.veganeatingout.com/</a>
 

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Thankyou all so much alot of you have very good points that have helped me . IM going to stay vegan bc i know dairy ect still contributes to all of the cruelty... and im going to start off eating vegan before i move inot things as clothes ect i refuse to be a part of things that are so bad for peopl animals alike and the world.<br>
Thankyou again to each of you, sumtimes i just needs that support shows im not alone <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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If I'm eating out I usually check with the restaurant first if they can cater for me, and I don't go if they are useless. Their loss. My friends are usually happy to go somewhere that can cater for a vegan. I find Japanese restaurants particularly good for veggie options but that might be different where you live.<br><br>
I'm pretty antisocial though and don't eat out very often so it's not an issue. Like vegansarawr I don't even consider non vegan things to be food anymore. It's been a long while. I'm vegan for ethical reasons and my feelings about the ethics are very strong - I've been vegan about 15 years.<br><br>
Good luck!
 

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<div class="quote-block">Also if you want to know why cheese is physically addictive and everyone likes it watch <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VWi6dXCT7I" target="_blank">this</a>. It is very dull and scholarly</div>
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Great talk! I didn't find it dull or scholarly at all. I thought it was very straightforward and entertaining. Everyone should check it out.
 

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Thanks for posting this. I am in my 16th year of being vegan and find it to be so easy. I live in a suburb of Denver and there are plenty of places to grocery shop and plenty of restaurants that serve vegan items. We do cook a lot at home, so that has to be something you're into, but it's so much fun and is so cheap. Plus, we organize potlucks for friends, mostly non-vegan, but the potluck is all vegan. That we we learn about new, easy recipes and have fun social time too. Good luck to you!
 
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