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My name is Rebecca and I am 14 years old. I joined this forum a couple of miinutes ago <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br>
Well, I am in the process of becoming a lacto vegetarian. I am doing this to stay healthier and for my beliefs of animal cruelty.<br><br>
I am now starting to ease my way into being a full lacto vegetarian. I have removed red meat, fish and seafood, eggs, pork, and poulty - basically all meat except for chicken and turkey.<br>
I have decided to now eat no meats, fish, etc. but I am allowing myself to eat white meat indirectly for the time being. Meaning, I can have chicken soup for now but not eat a chicken wing, for example.<br>
What are you opinions on this? Do you think that's a good plan?<br><br>
Also, I have not told my parents of my plans. No one is vegetarian in my family, and I'm not sure of what their reactions would be like. Any advice on telling them and dealing with this?<br><br>
I am also trying to stay away from as many animal products as possible. I am trying to avoid things like gelatin when I can, but if I happen to eat something with gelatin, I will still be a vegetarian, right?<br><br>
Also, any other information to get me started would be much appreciated.<br><br>
Thank you so much <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
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hello, and welcome!<br><br>
Good for you about what you've already done! And while you're transitioning its fine to eat things indirectly. But you can't ( or at least shouldn't) go around telling people you're vegetarian and then go eat chicken soup for lunch. This will confuse people alot and make your future as a vegetarian harder. Before you tell your parents though, make sure you are done transitioning. Or else you might be 30 and your mom will still try to give you chicken soup whenever you go over.<br><br>
As for the parents, i am 17 years old and just told my parents 2 weeks ago. I was expecting them to be completely against it, but they were pretty much fine with it. When you tell them be prepared to hear a few jokes about how you no longer eat meat. Just come right out, tell them, " Hey i decided i dont want to eat meat anymore because of..." my health, the environment, the animals, whatever your reason is. Then see if they have any questions and answer them. Print out some things on health and disease rates of vegetarians.<br><br><br>
When you tell them make sure you are specific about what you can not eat. My parents thought i can eat fish. Ummm no. Tell them nothing that has ever had a face. Also do alot of research about nutrition. You should know more about food and nutrition than most doctors by time you're done. That way when they start about protein and iron and anything else, you'll prove them wrong. ( Make sure you're getting enough B12 though. It is only found in animal products and fortified foods like cereal and soy milk. You may need a vitamin)<br><br>
As for the gelatin... I'm not really sure. Personally i dont eat it because it grosses me out. ( Do you know how/ what it's made of? If not, google it.) I'm sure someone else can answer that one.<br><br>
Best of luck,<br>
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Welcome to veggieboards, Rebecca.<br><br>
Sam gave you some great advice there.<br><br>
As for gelatine - most vegetarians avoid it, though not all. Don't get stressed about making small mistakes, most of us do from time to time. Focus on the big picture <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
If you're vegetarian and eating cheese, and milk your B12 should be fine. Vegans have to take supplements of B12 because it is not found in plant foods. I've been a vegetarian 30 years, and my B12 levels are fine. However it is not a bad idea to take a multivitamin and mineral tablet every day, to cover any vitamins and minerals you miss (I would advise omnivores to do that as well, it's not specific advice for vegetarians).<br><br>
Eat a wide range of foods, lots of different vegetables and fruits with bread, rice, pasta, couscous, quinoa and other grains and add beans, lentils, tofu and cheese. There are loads of recipes on <a href="http://www.vegweb.com" target="_blank">www.vegweb.com</a> if you fancy doing some cooking for yourself. Try to replace your meat with beans, lentils, tofu, tempeh, seitan instead of cheese - a healthier choice which also reduces animal suffering.<br><br>
You'll get lots of help and advice on these boards - just ask!
 

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Thanks! That was all very helpful <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
The only problem is that my mother makes my meals, and they mostly involve meat. So I can't really be a vegetarian or transition to one without not eating her meals. I guess I could just eat something else without her noticing.<br><br>
Also, do you think my plan of transitioning is good? Not to eat meat directly now, but indirectly? And to start eating healthier and trying more vegetarian dishes?<br><br>
Well, my family and I went to a restaurant last night. I had soup in a chicken broth (that's like what I mean by indirectly) and then ravioli with cheese. While the rest of my family had some sort of meat - chicken or steak. Quite frankly, I thought about it, and it grosses me out now. Thinking that what they were eating was once a living, breathing creature that was killed for my family to eat. It's just wrong.<br><br>
And with gelatin, I'm trying to avoid it, but there are so many foods with gelatin! I know things like marshmallows and gummy bears and poptarts and things like that. But can anyone give me a better list of foods with gelatin?<br>
It shouldn't be too hard to avoid because I'm trying to be healthier anyway, and a lot of things that have gelatin aren't too great for you.<br><br>
Any additional advice or information?<br><br>
Thanks!!
 

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Welcome to VeggieBoards! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I'm 15 and recently became vegan. My parents were a bit unsupportive at first, but I make my own meals and now they've gotten a lot better. No matter how they react, just try to stay strong and stick to your morals. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Also, cooking for yourself can be really helpful, because then you can be sure the meals are vegetarian, and you also gain some independence. For me, cooking was hard at first because I was used to just making simple things like microwave frozen meals, and I got very frustrated when recipes I tried turned out badly, but now I've discovered I really love to cook. And cooking vegetarian meals is easier than cooking vegan meals, because I'm sure you already bake things that are vegetarian so you won't have to worry about egg substitutes. A lot of things you might already eat are probably vegetarian, especially sides, like garlic bread, mashed potatoes, and macaroni and cheese, so if you don't feel like cooking everyday you could have some of the vegetarian sides that your family are eating. Are you becoming lacto vegetarian or lacto-ovo vegetarian?
 

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Thanks, Jessica! I'm becoming a lacto vegetarian. Do you have any thoughts on my process of transitioning? I'm removing all seafood, fish, red meat, eggs, and any other meat except for white meat. I was thinking of allowing myself to eat white meat indirectly to make the process of transitioning easier. For example, I can have chicken soup but not an actual chicken wing. It kind of grosses me out thinking about having a chicken wing now that I've learned more.<br>
Any suggestions and ideas? Or more info about being a lacto vegetarian specifically? What restrictions are there from not eating eggs? I don't eat eggs directly anyway, so that's not really a problem. But I do eat things that require eggs in them, like cakes or muffins.<br><br>
Thanks!!
 

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If your mother makes your meals, I think you are going to have to be honest with her sooner rather than later about your food change.<br><br>
But instead of presenting her with a problem (which is how she might see it if she thinks that she will have to buy extra food for you and cook a different meal for you) focus on presenting her with a solution. Offer to cook your own, offer to go to the supermarket with her and buy what you need. If you have a library nearby perhaps you could get a vegetarian recipe book out and show her some meals - otherwise you can bookmark recipes from the internet to show her. Perhaps you could even offer to cook for the family once a week, so that they get to try vegetarian food as well?<br><br>
Re - transitioning - it's up to you. If that's what suits you, then it's the best answer. Some people make the change immediately, others take many months, and sometimes years. It's all about finding what is best for you and your circumstances.<br><br>
It is difficult, at your age, so be patient with your family - you are presenting them with a major life change, and it may take a while for them to adjust to it. And they will be coming from the perspective that meat is tasty and healthy - you need to know the basics of vegetarian nutrition so that you can refute their arguments.<br><br>
It is difficult to tell you what products contain gelatin - in the UK it is rare to find it in yogurts, ice cream and cream cheese now, whereas according to this website <a href="http://www.vegparadise.com/news39.html" target="_blank">http://www.vegparadise.com/news39.html</a>, it is still in those items and more in the USA (I'm guessing that is where you live!). The best answer is to read the labels - different brands will use different ingredients.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Thanks! That was all very helpful <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
The only problem is that my mother makes my meals, and they mostly involve meat. So I can't really be a vegetarian or transition to one without not eating her meals. I guess I could just eat something else without her noticing.<br><br>
Also, do you think my plan of transitioning is good? Not to eat meat directly now, but indirectly? And to start eating healthier and trying more vegetarian dishes?<br><br>
Well, my family and I went to a restaurant last night. I had soup in a chicken broth (that's like what I mean by indirectly) and then ravioli with cheese. While the rest of my family had some sort of meat - chicken or steak. Quite frankly, I thought about it, and it grosses me out now. Thinking that what they were eating was once a living, breathing creature that was killed for my family to eat. It's just wrong.<br><br>
And with gelatin, I'm trying to avoid it, but there are so many foods with gelatin! I know things like marshmallows and gummy bears and poptarts and things like that. But can anyone give me a better list of foods with gelatin?<br>
It shouldn't be too hard to avoid because I'm trying to be healthier anyway, and a lot of things that have gelatin aren't too great for you.<br><br>
Any additional advice or information?<br><br>
Thanks!!</div>
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Thanks, Angie. I agree with you about having to tell my family sooner rather than later. But I could also transition by eating white meat only at dinner when my mother gives it to me and then not eating it for other meals. That way I could transition and I could do that before telling my parents.<br><br>
Any suggestions and ideas? Or more info about being a lacto vegetarian specifically? What restrictions are there from not eating eggs? I don't eat eggs directly anyway, so that's not really a problem. But I do eat things that require eggs in them, like cakes or muffins.<br><br>
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Eggs are one of those ingredients used in a lot of processed food, so if you want to cut eggs out completely you will have to read labels.<br><br>
Make sure you are getting enough nutrients if you transition in the way you stated: if you are not eating meat/fish at a meal you need to replace it with something else that contains protein - don't just eat the vegetables. Beans, chick peas, lentils, soya, quorn (although quorn contains egg whites) or cheese in some form, for example. Vegetables have protein in, but you need to be eating quite a lot of them to get enough, and if your family is like a lot of families, vegetables play a minor role in a meal, therefore there won't be enough for you to get all the nutrients you need. (I'm guessing of course, it could be a lot different in your family).<br><br>
You like cakes and muffins? Well, the good news is that you don't need eggs for them - check out <a href="http://www.findingvegan.com" target="_blank">www.findingvegan.com</a> and <a href="http://www.veganbaking.net" target="_blank">www.veganbaking.net</a> for lots of egg-less recipes.<br><br>
Why are you holding back on telling your family? Are you worried about their reaction? There are plenty of people on this forum who will help you decide what to say to them - after all, most of us have been through it (it was a long time ago though in my case, so I can't help you much!)
 

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Thanks for the advice. I will definitely be checking ingredients and labels like never before now!<br><br>
As for telling my family - I am worried about their reactions and thoughts. I was playing it out in my head. I will tell my mom, she will not be too happy, she will tell my dad, he will say "that is ridiculous!", my twin sister will find out, make fun of me, etc.<br><br>
Should I make a thread asking advice on this?
 

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Have a look in the 'relationships and family' and 'teen' forums first - you will probably find that someone else has asked the question, and it has already been answered (a lot of people, especially young people living with their parents) have the same problem. Expect questions, expect that they may ridicule you, or may dismiss your reasoning - it's new to them, so you need to give them time to adjust.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Rebecca1122</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3004165"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Thanks, Jessica! I'm becoming a lacto vegetarian. Do you have any thoughts on my process of transitioning? I'm removing all seafood, fish, red meat, eggs, and any other meat except for white meat. I was thinking of allowing myself to eat white meat indirectly to make the process of transitioning easier. For example, I can have chicken soup but not an actual chicken wing. It kind of grosses me out thinking about having a chicken wing now that I've learned more.<br>
Any suggestions and ideas? Or more info about being a lacto vegetarian specifically? What restrictions are there from not eating eggs? I don't eat eggs directly anyway, so that's not really a problem. But I do eat things that require eggs in them, like cakes or muffins.<br><br>
Thanks!!</div>
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For me, the easiest way to give up meat was to just cut it all out, including ingredients that might not be obvious like chicken broth in chicken soup. I know you might rely on meat a lot, but just think about it as an adventure to try new foods and built a different diet. I love trying new soups that don't have meat broths, and there are a lot of prepackaged ones out there. My favorite is the Progresso Lentil Soup, but I also am starting to try Amy's brand of soups. They have a lot of different soups and they even make a chicken noodle soup with no chicken. I haven't seen it at WalMart but they do have it at Stater Brothers. Stater Brothers also has packets of Top Ramen brand in the Oriental and Chili flavors, which makes vegetarian soup (though the Maruchan alternative has beef, so make sure it says Top Ramen), and those are great for easy, quick soup, or you can drain the noodles and make ramen noodles as an addition to a vegetable stir fry. If you miss any other meats, then Amy's, Morningstar, and Boca are very common brands that have faux meat products. You can check their websites to see them. Some Morningstar products have eggs, but Boca ones usually don't, and I believe Amy's only uses dairy and honey animal products but never eggs.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Rebecca1122</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3004182"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Thanks for the advice. I will definitely be checking ingredients and labels like never before now!<br><br>
As for telling my family - I am worried about their reactions and thoughts. I was playing it out in my head. I will tell my mom, she will not be too happy, she will tell my dad, he will say "that is ridiculous!", my twin sister will find out, make fun of me, etc.<br><br>
Should I make a thread asking advice on this?</div>
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Even if the worst happens and they make fun of you, you just have to ignore them. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I deal with this sometimes with my family, but it's <i>my</i> beliefs and I don't want to hurt animals just to get away from others' poor attitudes. People deal with teasing and things like that they're whole lives from someone, but I know it can be tougher with family. What helps me get through it is just sticking to my beliefs, no matter what, and I've grown stronger dealing with my family's teasing. I also love to come here on VeggieBoards and talk with other vegetarians and vegans, because we all go through the same thing. Even if we don't have issues with our family, at some point in our lives someone feels the need to say something bad about vegetarianism, it's part of being in a minority group that people might just not understand, but it doesn't matter what others think because it's <i>your</i> ethics and morals, not theirs, and if you want to help animals, then go for it, no one should try to stop you. There's a lot of great, interesting threads here on VeggieBoards to talk with other vegetarians and just get away from omnivores, and it can really help if you need some inspiration and support.
 

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Wow, thanks. I will definitely check out those soups and other foods.<br><br>
And I guess no matter what they say, if I stay true to my beliefs, that's all that matters.<br><br>
Also, to clarify, being a lacto vegetarian, I can't have anything make with eggs in it, right? And you think I should just cut out all meat?
 

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Wow, thanks. I will definitely check out those soups and other foods.<br><br>
And I guess no matter what they say, if I stay true to my beliefs, that's all that matters.<br><br>
Also, to clarify, being a lacto vegetarian, I can't have anything make with eggs in it, right? And you think I should just cut out all meat?</div>
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Lacto-vegetarians don't eat eggs or meat, ovo-vegetarians don't eat dairy or meat, lacto-ovo vegetarians don't eat meat but eat dairy and eggs, and vegans don't eat any animal products including honey, eggs, milk, or meat, so yes, lacto-vegetarians don't eat eggs. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> And there's no wrong or right way to transition, whatever works for you is best, I just personally found it easier to move past meat all at once and try some new vegetarian foods that I hadn't tried before like lentils, stir fries, and things like that. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I guess it just depends on how much you ate meat as an omnivore and if you're addicted to it, then it might be easier to wean off of it, but if you think you'll be likely to want to slip and eat more meat if you're weaning off it, then it could be easier to just give it up altogether.
 

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Yeah, I'm not addicted to meat. I don't hate it, but I don't love it. And I don't eat too much of it anyways. I'm gonna try not eating any meat directly and only eating white meat indirectly. I'm basically going to try to avoid all meat and animal products when I can, and hopefully I will be able to remove it as a whole. I don't think it will be too hard.<br><br>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Rebecca1122</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3004220"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Yeah, I'm not addicted to meat. I don't hate it, but I don't love it. And I don't eat too much of it anyways. I'm gonna try not eating any meat directly and only eating white meat indirectly. I'm basically going to try to avoid all meat and animal products when I can, and hopefully I will be able to remove it as a whole. I don't think it will be too hard.<br><br>
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Okay, great! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> If you need any ideas for meals, too, you can check out these threads:<br><a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/showthread.php?115339-Food-Porn-Volume-2" target="_blank">http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/sh...-Porn-Volume-2</a> (my personal favorite, because there's pictures!)<br><a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/showthread.php?129401-Breakfast!-(" target="_blank">http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/sh...1-Breakfast!-(</a><br><a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/showthread.php?114741-What-did-you-eat-for-lunch-today" target="_blank">http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/sh...or-lunch-today</a><br><a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/showthread.php?105447-What-s-for-dinner" target="_blank">http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/sh...t-s-for-dinner</a><br><br>
Both vegetarians and vegans contribute so you can get a variety of ideas. My favorite is the Food Porn thread because there's a lot of pictures and people tend to post recipes with their posts, so it's easy to tell which dishes you'll like and be able to replicate them.
 

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Great, thanks! I will definitely have to check those threads out.<br>
Everyone is so nice and helpful on here <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
I am currently in the car and my family is talking about how great their chicken and steak was last night. And I'm just sitting here, disgusted. But that's a good thing. This whole process will transition pretty quickly if I'm already thinking of meat as gross. And I can't help but feel ashamed for my family. Those poor animals <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br>
Anyway, does anyone have any simple and easy to cook vegetarian fishes that they cooked when they were starting out? Keep in mind, I'm only fourteen, I don't have much money to buy food, and I'm not the best cook.<br><br>
And any additional thoughts or advice is always nice <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
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Great, thanks! I will definitely have to check those threads out.<br>
Everyone is so nice and helpful on here <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
I am currently in the car and my family is talking about how great their chicken and steak was last night. And I'm just sitting here, disgusted. But that's a good thing. This whole process will transition pretty quickly if I'm already thinking of meat as gross. And I can't help but feel ashamed for my family. Those poor animals <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br>
Anyway, does anyone have any simple and easy to cook vegetarian fishes that they cooked when they were starting out? Keep in mind, I'm only fourteen, I don't have much money to buy food, and I'm not the best cook.<br><br>
And any additional thoughts or advice is always nice <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
Thanks!</div>
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I know, when you begin to stop eating meat sometimes you forget that the world isn't transitioning with you, and it really makes me upset when I see people eat meat, especially people that talk about how much they love animals. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br><br>
As for dishes, what are the basic stores you go to to get groceries? And what are some of the staple dishes and sides that you ate a an omnivore every week, and some of your favorite foods? From there we can give you recommendations based on the products individual stores have and help you find some of the things that are already vegetarian that you might already often eat and like. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I know, when you begin to stop eating meat sometimes you forget that the world isn't transitioning with you, and it really makes me upset when I see people eat meat, especially people that talk about how much they love animals. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br><br>
As for dishes, what are the basic stores you go to to get groceries? And what are some of the staple dishes and sides that you ate a an omnivore every week, and some of your favorite foods? From there we can give you recommendations based on the products individual stores have and help you find some of the things that are already vegetarian that you might already often eat and like. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></div>
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Yeah, it is annoying.<br>
About the stores I usually go to for groceries and food- I usually go to places near my house. Like, the food emporium and trader joes.<br><br>
When I was a full omnivore, I liked a lot of pasta dishes and soups. I would love suggestions for healthy veg*n pasta dishes and soups. And other things as well. I also like stir fry and things lime that.<br><br>
Thanks.
 

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Here's a few pasta dishes for you:<br><br><a href="http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/content/recipes/favourites/pasta/" target="_blank">http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/content/r...ourites/pasta/</a> recipes with a green v next to them are vegetarian.<br><a href="http://www.fatfreevegan.com/pasta/pasta.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.fatfreevegan.com/pasta/pasta.shtml</a><br><br><a href="http://www.bhg.com/recipes/vegetarian/ideas/italian-vegetarian-pasta-dishes/" target="_blank">http://www.bhg.com/recipes/vegetaria...-pasta-dishes/</a><br><br><a href="http://www.savvyvegetarian.com/vegetarian-recipes/pasta-recipes.php" target="_blank">http://www.savvyvegetarian.com/veget...ta-recipes.php</a>
 
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