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I am planning on making a major move in the next 4 years, and my new location will be self sufficient. Besides collecting materials for building a greenhouse, I was wondering if anyone knew whether or not it would be practical to start fruit trees indoors. For example, apple trees take many years before they produce, and I was wanting to start them growing in my current location, so that when I move, I would be able to put them in the ground and wait only a couple of years for fruit. Any advice would be great. Thanks!
 

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Well that is dependant on many things.<br><br>
Are you wanting a certain type of apple?<br><br>
Because apple seeds do not come true to type, you could plant a seed from a golden and get a crab apple tree.<br><br><br><br>
Now while you could start tree's inside it is a wheel of fate type of deal on what you get , I myself have several tiny apple tree's that I planted just for fun who knows what they are but it will be a good at least 6 years before I see an apple and even then the tree will be young.<br><br><br><br>
You can also start oranges, lemon,limes and cherry tree's inside
 

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I am ordering organic apple seeds from the Seeds of Change company, so they shouldn't be genetically engineered to be different (little trick used by seed companies so that you can't use seeds from the plants). I am looking into cherry seeds also.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>evilvegan</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I am ordering organic apple seeds from the Seeds of Change company, so they shouldn't be genetically engineered to be different (little trick used by seed companies so that you can't use seeds from the plants). I am looking into cherry seeds also.</div>
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They are lieing to you then <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> its not genetic manipulating that causes seed tree's to be differant from thier parent plant it is just how apples are.<br><br>
Apples are cross bred to be able to produce fruit, it is just how the plant is the result is the offspring are always differant from the parent plant.<br><br>
Depending on what types of tree's its parents were, grandparents etc etc, think of human's and how America is a melting pot of races, thats how apple tree's are.<br><br>
The only way to get a certain type of tree is by grafting.<br><br>
Apples are perhaps one of the only fruits not being effected by genetic steralization by seed companies <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
Trust me you can get a 100% wild apple tree, get a piece of fruit from it and grow the seeds and the young tree's will be compleatly differant from the mother plant.<br><br><br><br>
Here have a go at this web page <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> or look up some other gardening ones.<br><br>
Plants are my passion , my little seedlings that I planted are about 3 inches tall now and it is so neat, even though they all came from the same apple there are obvious differances in each plant already!<br><br>
Seeds came from an organic Pink Lady <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.raingardens.com/forum/index.cgi?noframes;read=15158" target="_blank">http://www.raingardens.com/forum/ind...mes;read=15158</a><br><br><br><br>
For Cherry seeds they have also been cultivated for a long time so do not always come true to type but they are a bit more predictable than apples.<br><br>
Be sure and cold treat your seeds for about 3 months before you plant them ( apples can be planted directly though)<br><br>
Just stick your cherry seeds in the fridge for a few months like you would do lavender and they will sprout great in the spring, or you can plant them in the fall and let nature do the work for you.
 

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It's true that apples never come "true" from seeds, they are ALWAYS different from the parents. The only way to get a specific type of apple is to plant grafted trees.<br><br><br><br>
I recommend waiting until you get to your final location to plant trees. Most trees require lots of light and are hard to grow properly indoors.<br><br><br><br>
Grafted apple trees of the dwarf and semi-dwarf kind can fruit after only a couple years in the ground, if you plant two-year old trees (readily available from many nurseries). I have a semi-dwarf apple which set a fruit the first year after I planted it (total age three years) but I picked off the tiny apple so as not to stress the very young tree.
 

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Another thing to remember- although maybe you know this already, and I forget whether it applies to apples...<br><br><br><br>
Some fruit tree varieties are self-sterile. If you have only that tree, or that variety of tree, you'll get flowers but no fruit. Some varieties need one of several different varieties nearby for cross-pollination to set fruit. If you know where you'll be moving to, the co-operative extension for that area will be able to recommend varieties for homesteaders.<br><br><br><br>
hmmm... Ludi and Ayrlin mentioned grafted trees. If you had branches of different varieties grafted onto the same tree, you might get one producing tree that way. Of course, you'd have to be careful pruning it that you didn;t cut off all the branches of one of the varieties. Argh! Much easier to get a self-fruitful variety.
 

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Apples are not self pollinating, I belive there are a few hybreds out there that might be but I know the general populations of apples are not.<br><br>
They are neat tree's though they cross breed with apples, crab apples and even pear tree's
 
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