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Does anyone here speak German? There is a character in the German alphabet that I have been trying to find a pronunciation for, without success. The character is ß. I realise that it looks like an upper-case b, but it appears in the middle of words in the form I have written it.<br><br><br><br>
Any help on the way it is pronounced would be most appreciated. Thanks.
 

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That's a way of abbreviating two s's in a row. For instance, street = Strasse which could also have that symbol in place of the two s's. Sounds like an S.
 

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Thanks Muppet, I (honestly) did not know that! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
ßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßßß ßßßßßßßßßßßß<br><br>
To ALL}<br><br>
I am also very much open to learning <b>German</b> with anyone interested (AND in <b>japanese</b> language as well whilst I'm about it!!). Please do not Hezitate anyone to let me know your interest likewise. Thankyou. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Whatcha wanna know about German, Ferti?<br><br>
I studied it for several years & my family lived in germany for 5 so... hast du eine Frage? (ya gots a question?) <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Yeah, you can PM for more talk on that if you will please! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Cheers
 

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Eck velle plautdietsch, oba nicht zya gout.<br><br><br><br>
I know low german, which is a mennonite language. There are some similarities to high german, but it's really a different language.<br><br><br><br>
Anyone else know low german? I'm guessing probably not...
 

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No, I learned high German in school. I've got family in Germany and they all speak high German or Friezisch (sp?) which is a combination of high German and I think Danish (they live on a tiny little island in the North Sea).<br><br><br><br>
If I spoke German well, I could probably figure out the low German, but unfortunately Ich spreche Deutsch nur ein wenig. (I speak German only a little.)
 

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Great, thanks muppetcow! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
My new word when things go wrong is Scheiße. I wanted to make sure I was pronouncing it right. I think I have watched the movie The Bourne Identity a little too much lately. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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Superjane,<br><br><br><br>
My stepfather and his brothers spoke Platdeutsch, but a somewhat different form than what you wrote. They would have said (phonetically written):<br><br><br><br>
"Ick prohte Platduetsch."<br><br><br><br>
I grew up speaking Schwaebisch, in which I would say:<br><br><br><br>
"Ie schwaetz Deutsch."<br><br><br><br>
For those of you who don't know, in High German (the language of the educated, and the written language) it is:<br><br><br><br>
"Ich spreche Deutsch."
 

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Ich Mouse!!!!!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/shocked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":eek:"> EEK! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> (pronounced eekishly!)
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> Ich bin eine Maus! (To paraphrase JFK!) <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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I majored in german, which (as i've often said before) i now believe was a mistake.. so haven't been keeping up with it und jetzt vergesse ich viel.. schade<br><br><br><br>
for the longest time i've always wanted to learn a 2nd language, but i've given up on that & now i've moved on to trying to learn programming languages *g*
 

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Ich spreche ein bisschen Deutsch <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">. German was a mandatory class in my high school.
 

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The character ß is referred to as eszet or sharfer s (at least in my current German lessons). The sharfer s means literally sharper s, and may best (depending on your pronounciation) be best given in an example as the difference between the s sound in `miss' (single German s) and the sound in`heist' (ß).<br><br><br><br>
There has been a recent move to remove the non standard characters from the German alphabet (perhaps prompted by the rise of the internet), and now ß can be replaced by double s, and the umlaut, the double dot above vowels, can be replaced by returning the letter to its un-umlauted form and suffixing it with an e, e.g König (King in English) becomes koenig. Personally I think this is a very negative move and hope that sense prevails and they retain what keeps the Germanic language(s) unique.<br><br><br><br>
For those interested in learning, or brushing up on their German, Deutsche Welle (German TV Station) have a downloadable mp3 and pdf series of courses, available here <a href="http://www.deutschewelle.de/english/0,3367,2547-0-0-S,00.html" target="_blank">http://www.deutschewelle.de/english/...-0-0-S,00.html</a><br><br><br><br>
München ist ein großer Platz, zum zu leben. Morgen ist mein Geburtstag und ich gehe zum Weisn mit 250.000 Gästen!! Singen, Tanzen, trinken! Drei oder vier Maß später, setzen dann für Bett Zeit fest!<br><br><br><br>
(Grammar mistakes from Babelfish)
 

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Yeah it's the "scharfes s", the "sharp s". Pronounced "s". Also written "sz" when the character is not available.<br><br><br><br>
BTW, about 5 years ago there was a grammar and spelling reform in German, which pretty much completely eliminated "scharfes s" from writing. A double s is the common and correct replacement that should be used instead.<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Viele, viele herzliche Glueckwuensche zum Geburtstag, Jon! Ich wuensche Dir viel Freude im neuen Lebensjahr!<br><br><br><br>
(Ok, OK--I've never figured out how to access the umlaut or eszet on the computer.)
 

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Vielen dank Maus. Beunruhigend habe ich zum Pun auf deutsches und Englisch und französisch begonnen.
 

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Vielen dank Maus. Beunruhigend habe ich zum Pun auf deutsches und Englisch und französisch begonnen.</div>
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<br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/shocked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":eek:"> Beunruhigend?! Nein, das ist ein zu sanftes Wort. Diese Nachricht macht mir Angst! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 
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